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Workout of the Day

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3 rounds for max reps of:

Body-weight bench presses
Strict pull-ups

Post reps completed to comments.

The JUPITER Trial

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The highly influential JUPITER trial (2008) considered the impact of rosuvastatin, commonly known as Crestor, on heart disease risk. Over two years, Crestor dramatically decreased cholesterol levels and total cardiovascular events. However, the trial was and remains controversial because it was stopped early (which may have exaggerated its effects), showed a significant increase in diabetes in the treatment group, and involved multiple conflicts of interest.

Read MoreThe JUPITER Trial

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Doug Brubacher
August 21st, 2022 at 12:41 am
Commented on: 190318

CFWUx2 sub bench for dips

5+1-10 2+1-6 2+1-6

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Shawn Hakimi
February 24th, 2020 at 1:57 pm
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Bench 5, 4, 3 (175lbs)

Pull ups 13, 10, 8


Total: 43 Rx'd

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Chris Meldrum
January 28th, 2020 at 10:19 pm
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As rx’d.  Did bench with legs off floor so I wasn’t tempted to push with the legs at all.


Bench:  10-8-8

Pull:       19-15-14


Max sets of strict pull-ups are tough – probably why I don’t do them very often.  This was 1 off my PR of 20. Bench numbers are low but my bench is weak these days, and without legs...


46m/5'10"/180

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Matthieu Dubreucq
December 8th, 2019 at 12:29 pm
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The more I have vocabulary to describe arguments the better I feel I can think critically.

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William Ma
September 9th, 2019 at 5:13 pm
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Bench-press: 3-3-3 (at 155), Pullups: 15-15-15

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Christian Heck
May 28th, 2019 at 7:36 pm
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Bp. 9/8/8

Pu. 16/12/11

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Nate Gordon
May 2nd, 2019 at 9:18 pm
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BW 175

BP 6-5-6

PU 12-11-11

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Francisco Alférez
April 29th, 2019 at 10:34 am
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82-kg. (181-lb.)


2-7-2-6-1-7 reps

TOTAL: 25 reps

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Kury Akin
April 22nd, 2019 at 3:10 pm
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E5MOM (BW=85kg). 5@85k, 15, 7@75k, 15, 7@75k, 15 all ring pulls. Need to make some catchers. Could probably do another one or two presses. Experimented off the ground but didn't go as planned :)

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Manchild Manchild
April 17th, 2019 at 5:44 pm
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E3MOM, and used 60# dumbbells


7, 7, 6

12, 12, 10

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Mike Scott
April 13th, 2019 at 2:57 am
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Came back to this almost 4 weeks after surgery and nearly 2 months of no wods. 175# BP: 8,7,6 & Fat bar strict PU: 8,5,6

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Kevin Miller
April 12th, 2019 at 12:21 pm
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3/4 body weight bench press

BP: 13,12,14

Pull ups: 9,8,9

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Pyer-Hugh Dion
April 10th, 2019 at 8:22 pm
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BP/PU: 165 lbs

11/13-10/12-4/6

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Jeff Chalfant
April 9th, 2019 at 12:11 am
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Not rx. Went with 185lbs. Actual bw 192. Too much snacking lately. Pronated grip pull-ups.

9 bench/ 16 pull-ups (5 fewer than December, but going in beat up from the last WODs rows)

8 bench/ 13 pullups

7 bench/ 10 pull-ups

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John Doody
April 5th, 2019 at 11:38 pm
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1)7-10

2)7-10

3)7-9

At 175#

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Sam Pat
April 2nd, 2019 at 5:18 pm
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10 pushups

3 pullups

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John Campion
April 1st, 2019 at 6:20 pm
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50 reps total

2 min rest in between sets

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John Campion
April 1st, 2019 at 6:21 pm

145#

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Morgan Greene
April 1st, 2019 at 3:27 pm
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180#:

BP: 15, 10, 9 =34

PU: 15, 13, 11 =39

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Scott Wiedmeyer
March 29th, 2019 at 9:42 pm
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32 / M / 5'9" / 140lbs


25lb dumbbells bench press 12-14-14

Strict ring pull-ups 7-6-7

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Clint Michael
March 28th, 2019 at 2:21 am
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26 reps at 215 lbs. body weight

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William Peter
March 26th, 2019 at 12:54 am
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Jade Teasdale
March 25th, 2019 at 2:05 am
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Bench @ 115#! BW would be 135!

I don't have a bench. I'm doing floor presses with a bar bell, so I don't feel too comfortable rolling up BW...sketchy!!!

Super psyched with my bicep tendon injury recovery though. PU have been limited for a while...chin ups still hurt!

Better Next Time! 73 reps!

9/15

12/12

10/15

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Sam Meixell
March 23rd, 2019 at 2:33 pm
Commented on: 190318

3 rounds for max reps of:

1/2 Body-weight bench presses 11-9-8

pull-ups 6-5-4

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Vincent Dahlqvist
March 22nd, 2019 at 6:22 pm
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10/10, 5/5, 5/5 (75kg)

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Christopher Voght
March 22nd, 2019 at 1:35 pm
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3 rounds for max reps of:


Body-weight bench presses = 170

Strict pull-ups


7/12

7/13

6/11

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Hank McKibban
March 22nd, 2019 at 12:23 pm
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12/17-13/15-11/12

195#

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Shannon Said
March 22nd, 2019 at 9:02 am
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7 reps first two rounds

75kg bench press

Strict pull ups


7 bench press

6 strict pull ups last round

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Romain Grelier
March 22nd, 2019 at 4:31 am
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10-8-8 bench 60 kg

10-8-8 pulls-ups

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Byron Hills
March 22nd, 2019 at 2:12 am
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Rx

8-7-5 190 lb bench

6-7-6 pull-ups - 1st set from big balls

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Maher Alsayid
March 22nd, 2019 at 1:29 am
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9-9-6rep

85kg

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Albert Kombe
March 21st, 2019 at 11:21 pm
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Bench Presses 175lbs: 2, 2, 4

Strict Pull-ups: 11, 10, 10

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Albert Kombe
March 21st, 2019 at 11:21 pm
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Bench Presses 175lbs: 2, 2, 4

Strict Pull-ups: 11, 10, 10

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carlos Segnini
March 21st, 2019 at 5:48 am
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77kg Men on 75kg BP.

Did this on 21st March, because I will take Friday off.

13/10

10/9

9/8


Very sad on the pullups...

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Js Smith
March 21st, 2019 at 2:40 am
Commented on: 190318

Scaled to 3r/t of

10 bench presses, 65#

15 ring rows


Foot injury from 1/2 marathon training. Weird what gets affected by a foot.

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Kyungtaek Kang
March 21st, 2019 at 2:38 am
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Bench press 15-15-13 (205LB)

Strict Pull-up 15-15-10

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D Schultz
March 20th, 2019 at 11:07 pm
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180#

13;11

9;7

6;5 2 min rest

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Scott Jacobson
March 20th, 2019 at 10:09 pm
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5’8” / 163 lb / 20 / M


Rounded BPs up to 165lb


15/17

16/15

13/15

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Roger Munger
March 20th, 2019 at 9:17 pm
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52/male/155#, 70 reps total

Bench, strict pull-ups

10,17

8,15

7,13

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Eric Love
March 20th, 2019 at 6:29 pm
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10/16

10/15

8/12


@195

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Tomi Krznar
March 20th, 2019 at 5:35 pm
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@85 kg bw


bench: 11-7-5 (70 kg)

PU: 12-7-7

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Viktor Wachtler
March 20th, 2019 at 7:36 am
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Scaled to 77% of bodyweight bench presses due to shoulder injury (recovering).

BP at 60kg 15-18-16

Strict pull-up 14-14-12


M42/ 1.78m/77kg

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Randy Sigman
March 20th, 2019 at 12:11 am
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185#

13+4, 11+3, 9+3

82% of my body weight

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Logan Simpson
March 19th, 2019 at 11:23 pm
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29/m/5’11”/180


Bench at 135#

7, 10, 8


Strict pull-ups

8, 8, 6

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Nathan Bynum
March 19th, 2019 at 11:00 pm
Commented on: 190318

Round 1: 4 & 6

Round 2: 5 & 6

Round 3: 7 & 7

Total: 35

M / 39 / 6' / 190lbs

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Nathan Bynum
March 19th, 2019 at 11:01 pm

Rxd

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Elliott Harding
March 19th, 2019 at 10:49 pm
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225 lb. bench press

Small red band pullups

Did not weigh myself


3/4

2/3

2/3

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Kevin Marshall
March 19th, 2019 at 2:55 pm
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Subbed BW bench for max dB bench at 75s

R1: 8& 11

R2: 9& 13

R3: 7& 7

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Tyler Wood
March 19th, 2019 at 12:27 pm
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190 lbs. Bench Press: 8-10-8

Pull-ups: 8-8-8


Total: 50

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Hendrik Bünzen
March 19th, 2019 at 9:53 am
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65 rx’d

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Jesse Montagnino
March 19th, 2019 at 5:03 am
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155

20/14

17/14

16/13


D

45 (black, purple, purple)

15/8

15/11

17/11

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Michael Eades
March 19th, 2019 at 5:02 am
Commented on: The JUPITER Trial

In my view, the JUPITER study is problematic from the very beginning, starting with its name. When scientists plan a study, they start with an hypothesis. They then do their best to scrub all bias from from their research methodology. In the case of the JUPITER study, the bias was right there front and center starting with the name, which is an acronym for Justification for the Use of Statins in Prevention: an Intervention Trial Evaluating Rosuvastatin. In my opinion, that sort of tells the tale. The authors of the study, all statinators to their cores, want to justify the use of their favorite drugs.


Aside from the title, there are multiple other issues at play with this study. One of the problems with statin studies in general is that although these drugs do seem to minimally reduce the rates of death from heart disease, they haven't been shown to reduce the all-important all-cause mortality. In other words, they haven't reduced deaths overall. Subjects taking statins die less frequently from heart attacks, but more frequently from other diseases. So, in essence, taking a statin does not prolong life, but merely changes the agent of death. The results of the JUPITER study did reduce all-cause mortality in those who took Crestor, which is why the community of statinators was over the moon with the results. Finally, proof that a statin could prolong life.


Much though the statinating community would love to have us all taking statins daily, the JUPITER results are pretty limited. They apply only to men over 50 or women over 60 who have normal LDL-colesterol levels (>130 mg/dl) AND elevated c-reactive protein. These were the study subjects, and results from these subjects can't rationally be extrapolated to the population as a whole. In fact, these parameters are unusual to say the least. There were 17,802 subjects in the study gathered from 1315 sites spread across 26 countries. Some quick math shows that each study site had an average of about 13 subjects. These subjects weren't your average subject, and the results can't be assumed to hold for everyone everywhere.


When you look at the data from the study, you see that there were about 50 more deaths in the placebo arm of the study than from the arm in which Crestor was given. A small, yet significant, difference. But when you look at how the randomization shook out, you find some intriguing differences. Although the researchers were careful to randomly distributed smokers between the two groups, they weren't so careful with other risk factors. There were 51 more subjects with a family history of premature cardiovascular disease (probably the strongest risk factor for developing heart disease) in the placebo group. And there were 71 more people with Metabolic Syndrome in the placebo group. Just like the difference in 50 deaths between the two groups, these number are small, but it doesn't take but a few differences in deaths to whittle that 50 subject difference down to something that is no longer statistically significant. Having 51 more people with bad family history and 71 more with Metabolic Syndrome (another major risk factor for heart disease) might be enough to radially alter the outcome of this study statistically speaking.


A strange finding in this study was that those taking the Crestor - a potent statin - had no more reported side effects than those taking a placebo. Very strange indeed. Muscle aches are one of the most common side effects experienced by those taking statins. In the JUPITER study, there were only 10 subjects out of around 9,000 taking Crestor who reported muscle pain as compared to 9 subjects in the control group. This is extremely difficult for me to reconcile with the reality of the statistics on statin users and muscle pain.


One of the downsides of the study from the Crestor perspective was that subjects taking Crestor developed diabetes at significantly higher rates than those taking placebo.


The most bizarre part of this study was that the authors terminated it right in the middle. The reason given was that to continue the study would have been unethical as so many people in the placebo group were dying. Sometimes trials are stopped prematurely when it is discovered that subjects on the study medication are dying at unacceptable rates, but this is the only one I can think of that was stopped because subjects on the placebo had a minimally greater rate of death.


Since the subjects on Crestor were developing diabetes at greater rates than those on placebo, and a point had been reached at which the small differences in death rates had reached statistical significance, it does make me wonder if either of those issues drove the termination. Since the JUPITER study was published, we've learned a lot about Big Pharma fiddling with studies in one way or another. The strange way in which this study was handled certainly gives me pause.

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Matthieu Dubreucq
December 8th, 2019 at 12:37 pm

I was wondering also about the increase in diabetes and the potential link with stopping the study before it showed a link between diabetes and statins.

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Mary Dan Eades
March 19th, 2019 at 4:09 am
Commented on: The JUPITER Trial


Prior to the 'vaunted' Jupiter trial, Crestor had not been shown to do diddly in preventing MIs or cardiac deaths. And that was a problem for them, but they dutifully spun their way around that sticky wicket:


Language embedded in their own ad in AARP magazine in September and October 2005, admitted: 'Crestor is prescribed along with diet for lowering high cholesterol and has not been determined to prevent heart disease, heart attacks, or strokes.'


Of course, those same hard endpoints were the specific outcome measures laid out at the start of 2008 Jupiter trial. The name of the trial gives you a clear clue to the underlying bias of the investigators (and possibly even some on the IRB) from the get go. Justification for the Use of Statins in Prevention: an Intervention Trial Evaluating Rosuvastatin. When you start a study by naming it 'Justification for (fill in the blank)' that sure shows your open-minded posture.


So off they went on their Justification Quest, but it stopped short. Why?

You stop if you're trying to 'justify' selling a drug whatever the outcome. Especially when, coincidentally, there was a slight, slight, ever so slightly increased benefit in the treatment group at that point, an effect that might well have vanished were the study to have gone to its conclusion. To be fair the benefit might have gotten stronger or stayed the same, too. We don't know because what began as a 5-year study was truncated after 2 years 'because the drug's overwhelming efficacy had been proven'. Well that and the inescapable specter of significantly higher rates of developing diabetes in those who took it compared to those on placebo. And who knows what that tendency would have looked like carried out to the full original 5-year length?


To be sure, a drug's showing minimal actual efficacy (albeit in a narrowly defined group of men over 50 and women over 60 who had normal LDL cholesterol AND elevated C-reactive protein but no identifiable systemic inflammatory disorders) while possibly causing diabetes in the treatment group is an excellent reason to interrupt a trial less than half way to the end.


Bringing out the drug as safe and beneficial to reduce the risk of heart attack, stroke, or death for all people of all ages anywhere in the world anyway is just flatly wrong. How many doctors have prescribed it and how many 'healthy' patients have taken it secure in their minds that it would safely reduce the risk of a heart attack? Millions, I would imagine.

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Tim Chan
March 19th, 2019 at 2:30 am
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Rx @ 165lbs

Rd 1 11/10

Rd 2 10/10

Rd 3 11/10

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Dezert Sky Kiddoo
March 19th, 2019 at 2:21 am
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10-12/10-11/7-10 (75% bdy wt, =115lb)

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Isaiah Chavez
March 19th, 2019 at 2:01 am
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54 reps

12/8

12/8

9/6

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Scott MacArthur
March 19th, 2019 at 2:00 am
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BP 9,7,8

PU 12,10,10

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Jake Kiddoo
March 19th, 2019 at 1:58 am
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10/4-10/3-10-0 still sore from 19.4

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Jeffrey Howard
March 19th, 2019 at 1:24 am
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M/23/5'8"/150-lb

Bench Press | 9-7-7

Pull-ups | 15-14-13

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Marco Mandujano
March 19th, 2019 at 12:55 am
Commented on: 190318

185#

1st. Round 12 bench press / 12 Pull ups

2nd Round 10 bench press / 10 pull ups

3rd Round 8 bench press / 11 pull ups

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Chad Fox
March 19th, 2019 at 12:19 am
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36m/150#

Body-weight bench presses 12, 9, 8

Strict pull-ups 13, 14, 13

Total Reps 69

1 min rest between sets alternating between bench and pull ups.

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Cy Azizi
March 18th, 2019 at 11:19 pm
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165#

3/15

3/15

4/15

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Luke Rodina
March 18th, 2019 at 11:07 pm
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M/175/37

Bench: 12, 15, 15

Strict Pullups: 15, 15, 16


Could have probably done more bench but didn't have a spotter. Kept pullups as strict as possible with no rocking.

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Stacey Carpenter
March 18th, 2019 at 11:05 pm
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3rounds

10 Rep max 95# Bench each time

10 max reps Green band strict pullups each time

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Tripp Starling
March 18th, 2019 at 11:02 pm
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159 body weight


160# bench press

Strict pull ups

3 rounds with no rest between movements or rounds


12/14

7/6

4/4

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MaKenan Sciandra
March 18th, 2019 at 11:00 pm
Commented on: 190318

185# floor press/SPU

15/15

4/4

3/3

No rest in between. 2-3 min rest in between would have beneficial.

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Knox Williams
March 18th, 2019 at 10:49 pm
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12/16, 10/12, 12/12 = 74 reps total

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Mark Yates
March 18th, 2019 at 10:40 pm
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85# DB bench press (87% of 194# bodyweight)

15, 12, 10

Assisted strict PU

14, 10, 8

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Cliff Hoecker
March 18th, 2019 at 10:16 pm
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71 reps RX


Rd1 - 12/15

Rd 2 - 10/14

Rd 3.- 8/12

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Cliff Hoecker
March 18th, 2019 at 10:17 pm

M/51/190


Used 190# for bp

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Shane Azizi
March 18th, 2019 at 10:06 pm
Commented on: 190318

14/20

14/20

15/17


Total: 100 reps Rx

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Shane Azizi
March 18th, 2019 at 10:51 pm

185lb body weight

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Stefan Thor Arnarsson
March 18th, 2019 at 9:27 pm
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M37/80kg/182cm


BP 10, 9, 7

PU 20, 15, 11


Pressing sucks and pull ups rock !

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Peter Shaw
March 18th, 2019 at 9:21 pm
Commented on: 190318

Limited equipment modification:

3 rounds:

Max push-ups (83-38-30)

Max strict pull-ups on back of staircase (12-8-7)

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Chad Fox
March 19th, 2019 at 12:20 am

Very good!

Way to adapt and overcome.

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Brian Rosenbaum
March 18th, 2019 at 9:13 pm
Commented on: 190318

M/57/6'2"/177

7,14

7,12

7,10

BP @ 165# (92% of BW). No spotter, so obviously didn't push it on the BP, especially on first round.

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Corentin curunet
March 18th, 2019 at 9:13 pm
Commented on: 190318

Round 1 : 11-15

Round 2 : 10-14

Round 3 : 9-10

165 lbs

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Owen Webb
March 18th, 2019 at 9:12 pm
Commented on: 190318

Round 1: 12 , 10

Round 2: 12 , 11

Round 3: 10 , 10

@75kg - 65 reps

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Adrian Aguilar
March 18th, 2019 at 8:32 pm
Commented on: 190318

Woooooo I got my ass handed to me on this one today! I haven't benched in a long time while rehabbing a bit of a shoulder thing. My numbers were ROUGH! Loved getting exposed that way.


M/33/5'10"/185lb


7 - 15

6 - 15

6 - 15

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Brian Anderson
March 18th, 2019 at 8:31 pm
Commented on: 190318

Floor Press at 170# - 15/13/12

15/14/13 pull-ups


M-42-69-170#

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Marco Nebel
March 18th, 2019 at 8:06 pm
Commented on: 190318

52 Reps scaled


1. Round: 11/11

2. Round: 10/8

3. Round: 6/6


Benchpress 100 lbs

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Gordon Lee
March 18th, 2019 at 7:44 pm
Commented on: 190318

87% bw no spotter

135lbs

12/12/12

Pull ups

15/15/15

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Nicole Deaver
March 18th, 2019 at 7:44 pm
Commented on: 190318

85# Bench Press (65% BW)

10-8-13

Pull-ups

6-6-7


Then tried 95# : 10-8-8

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Matthew Aukstikalnes
March 18th, 2019 at 7:20 pm
Commented on: 190318

190# - 5,5,5. PU - 13,11,8.

no excuses, time to get back to basics!

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Bruce Becker
March 18th, 2019 at 7:20 pm
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M58 178 lbs just getting back after long injury rest. Used 150 lbs bench

10, 9

9, 8

5,7

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Coastie Nick
March 18th, 2019 at 7:01 pm
Commented on: 190318

Rx’d w/ body weight of 170#


Bench: 18, 12, 11= 41 reps

Strict pull-ups: 20, 17, 15 = 52 reps


93 total reps

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Tom Perry
March 18th, 2019 at 6:55 pm
Commented on: 190318

57 / 167


shoulder replaced so bp done at 115# (surgeon is not excited about pushing exercises)


82 reps with about 5 minutes rest between rounds (rounds were 18/9, 17/10, and 18/10)

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David Mz
March 18th, 2019 at 6:51 pm
Commented on: 190318

195lbs

19/16

9/10

6/8

Probably should of took longer than 20/30secs rest between sets workout was a Total of 6mins

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Michael Arko
March 18th, 2019 at 5:54 pm
Commented on: 190318

I’ve been in Colorado all week, skiing not CrossFitting. Can’t do today’s WOD so I figured out a way to do some pull-ups on an i-beam (hard to do more than 5 at a time) and subbed this:

For time, 5 rounds

5 pull-ups

20 push-ups

40 sit-ups

60 squats

23:43

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Joel Vandruff
March 18th, 2019 at 5:48 pm
Commented on: 190318

87 reps at 185 body weight

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Nathan Jenkins
March 18th, 2019 at 5:29 pm
Commented on: The JUPITER Trial

A 2010 critical reappraisal of JUPITER noted several of these significant concerns.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20585068


From the abstract,


"The trial was flawed. It was discontinued (according to prespecified rules) after fewer than 2 years of follow-up, with no differences between the 2 groups on the most objective criteria. Clinical data showed a major discrepancy between significant reduction of nonfatal stroke and myocardial infarction but no effect on mortality from stroke and myocardial infarction. Cardiovascular mortality was surprisingly low compared with total mortality-between 5% and 18%-whereas the expected rate would have been close to 40%. Finally, there was a very low case-fatality rate of myocardial infarction, far from the expected number of close to 50%. The possibility that bias entered the trial is particularly concerning because of the strong commercial interest in the study.


CONCLUSION:

The results of the trial do not support the use of statin treatment for primary prevention of cardiovascular diseases and raise troubling questions concerning the role of commercial sponsors."


What is interesting is that the prevalence of statin use has nevertheless only continued to increase, with approximately 1/3 of the U.S. adult population currently on a statin drug :/

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sebastien cote
March 18th, 2019 at 5:14 pm
Commented on: 190318

bench 175/7 155/7 135/10

pull ups 17-11-9

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John Clarke
March 18th, 2019 at 5:01 pm
Commented on: 190318

3 Rounds:


Max rep push-ups

Max rep strict pull-ups


45/14

32/12

20/8

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Steve Day
March 18th, 2019 at 4:59 pm
Commented on: 190318

180# Bench 15/12/5

scaled to 12# assisted Pullup (to get a few more reps) 15/10/5

67 reps total

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Steve Day
March 18th, 2019 at 5:01 pm

Sorry - 62 total reps. Math is hard.

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Evan Walton
March 18th, 2019 at 4:15 pm
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Bodyweight 228lbs

Bench: 7,5,4

Strict pullups: 5,4,3

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Namkhay Gyalpo
March 18th, 2019 at 3:22 pm
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bodyweight at 74kgs

wod performed with 70kgs

15, 25

11, 16

7, 7

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Darren Ward
March 18th, 2019 at 3:12 pm
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166 bw, did 168# due to weights and fluctuating bw.

Rd 1: 16,13

Rd 2: 13,11

Rd 3 9,9.

3 min between rounds, bp and pu done back to back.

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Steven Thunander
March 18th, 2019 at 2:37 pm
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Globo scale... as rx. If without a barbell use the heaviest available dumbbells or up to 80% bodyweight for the dumbbells combined.

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Steven Thunander
March 19th, 2019 at 12:27 am

Home option is either HSPU or ring/bar dips max strict.

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Randy Long
March 18th, 2019 at 2:34 pm
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As Rx’d at 150lbs BW:


12 bench press; 13 pull-ups

10 bench press; 12 pull-ups

9 bench press; 11 pull-ups

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Phillip Blazek
March 18th, 2019 at 2:33 pm
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Just started CrossFit a month ago and love it! Maybe could’ve done more reps on bench press but didn’t have a spotter :/


Rd 1: 10/10

Rd: 2 10/10

Rd: 3 10/10

3min rest breaks, went straight to pull ups after bench press


28 / 5’10” / 210

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Pavel Stas
March 18th, 2019 at 2:31 pm
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195 lbs

18-16

17-15

11-14

Rx

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Rajat Samanta
March 18th, 2019 at 2:26 pm
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33 reps RX!

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Katina Thornton
March 18th, 2019 at 2:12 pm
Commented on: The JUPITER Trial

The open poll of 2553 respondents reveals that this study does not represent clear and convincing evidence. And, once again, let's not ignore that the addition of nutritional changes and exercise in low risk patients should preceed the addition of an exogenous medication that de facto includes unwanted side effects.

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Jim Rix
March 18th, 2019 at 1:38 pm
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140# BP (87.5% BW), strict PU.


7-12

6-11

6-11


56/5'8"/160#

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Robert Paterson
March 18th, 2019 at 1:28 pm
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Think I've done more strict pullups so far this year than the last 5 or 6 years combined but definitely seeing an improvement. From doing strict Cindy in January and getting 15 rounds to getting 18 rounds last week and 3 sets of 17 today.

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Dave DeCoste
March 18th, 2019 at 10:57 am
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10/13

7/12

7/10

59 total reps

165 lb BP

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Mike Andridge
March 18th, 2019 at 10:54 am
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Scaled to 50# DB's for BP

21/11

14/9

12/8

m/49/175

rested about 2 1/2 to 3 min btwn each rnd (went right into pull ups after BP)

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Claire Fiddian-Green
March 18th, 2019 at 10:42 am
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I interpreted max reps as unbroken, no rests. Round 1: 10 bench press 85#, 3 SPU. Round 2: 10 bench press 85#, 6 band assisted SPU. Round 3: 6 bench press 85#, 5 band assisted SPU. As always, a humbling workout.

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Sebastien Fitzpatrick
March 18th, 2019 at 10:13 am
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77 reps @185 Rx


Rd 1: 10/15

Rd 2: 10/16

Rd 3: 10/16

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Jonas Carlström
March 18th, 2019 at 4:16 am
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Is there rest prescriped between exercises?

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Sebastien Fitzpatrick
March 18th, 2019 at 10:22 am

Rest as needed.

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Joseph Gorton
March 18th, 2019 at 3:14 am
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Full Send baby!!!

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Juan Acevedo
March 18th, 2019 at 12:52 am
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Intended Stimulus

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Muscle failure day. Today we want to find the limits of our capacity. We want to see how many bodyweight bench presses we can do with optimal mechanics. Same goes for pull ups. Beware both of these movements will allow us to squeeze some questionable reps if we wanted to. Today let's own these movements. If bodyweight is to heavy for you -i.e. 4 reps or less-, it probably means you will not have full control over those reps. You will get them, but they might not be as productive as they could. Deload a little and get a set of ten solid reps in which the eleventh fails, not because of broken mechanics but because your muscle just can't produce any more force. Same applies for pull ups. Today, tame the ego and preserve the stimulus, you will be so proud when you finish, the arm pump will be barely noticeable. Athletes that have never tested their 1RM on a bench press can do Option 2.

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Option 1

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3 rounds for max reps of:

Bench presses @77% of 1RM

Strict pull ups (assist with band as needed)

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Option 2

3 rounds

12-15 repetitions bench press (for load)

Max strict pull ups (assist with box or band)

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Eric O'Connor
March 18th, 2019 at 12:43 am
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I'll treat this workout similar to the classic "Lynne" workout...a relatively quick transition between the bench press and strict pull-ups, then rest as needed. Here are some other thoughts on this one:

Bench Press: The loading here is intended to be moderate. I will have nearly all athletes utilize a load that allows them to complete between 6-15 reps. If an athlete has a personal goal of attempting the body-weight bench press, but the reps will be 5 reps or less, they’ll attempt the body-weight load on the first set and likely reduce load for the remaining sets.


Strict Pull-ups: Similar to the bench press, I will have nearly all athletes utilize a strict pull-up variation that allows them to get at least 6 reps. For an athlete that can do strict pull-ups, but may not get more than 6 reps, I will have them attempt the first set unassisted before potentially using assistance on the remaining sets. The first option, for athletes that cannot perform strict pull-ups, will be to have them utilize band assistance that allows them to achieve 6-15 reps. The second option, I will utilize, will be to have the athlete perform slow eccentric pull-ups. This would be completed by having the athlete perform 3-5 reps each set, where they jump their chin above the bar before lowering in 3-5 seconds, under control, each rep. Controlling the total volume is very important when prescribing eccentric pull-ups, so 5 reps will be the maximum I will allow per set.

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David Mitchell
March 18th, 2019 at 1:36 am

Thanks Eric for continuing to post your thoughts here!

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David Cowan
March 18th, 2019 at 11:41 pm

Is this the Train for the win Eric?

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Chris Sinagoga
March 18th, 2019 at 12:11 am
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Champions Club Scaling Notes


STIMULUS:

Any time you don’t see something like “Post rounds to comments” or “Post time to comments” you should automatically think “For Quality.” Another term for that could be “Strength Day.” And there’s a million ways to develop strength, which is why I don’t like to label these days as “Strength Days” but going slow, maintaining positions, and resting as needed is one of the most fool-proof ways of doing it. Today is your day to be a bro. This is Lynn without the extra two rounds of rhabdo. But this is a great opportunity to see how your strict pull-up work has been doing, as well as the slow push-ups and handstands. I rarely talk about scaling weights here because I feel that’s a given; if you know that bodyweight bench or strict pull-ups are new for you, do a warmup set with each just to appease your ego, then drop the weights/scale the pull-ups so you can get the Death To The Arms feel for this one. 3 pull-ups and 5 bench presses per round probably won’t do that. Max reps also means there’s more emphasis on stamina, which is a component of fitness that I often overlook. Take a minute to think about what fatigues first on a run: legs or lungs. Same for push-ups: arms or lungs? Usually it’s the muscles that go before the lungs. So this is an opportunity to practice that also.


GROUP:

We’re low on benches, so floor press is our go-to. And to keep things more cohesive, I’ll probably do timed stations instead of unbroken sets (except for like 2 kids). Max reps in 1:30 at each station with a 1:30 rest in between. Pull-ups will also be self-scaling in this sense, meaning they can hang, half-pull, kip, or whatever makes them feel like their arms are frying out. For the people doing 10+ strict pull-ups, their abs should feel fatigued as well (so should the butt on the bench press).


WARMUP:

Push-ups — prep for position

Kip — overhead shape and staying fresh on the skill

Jump rope — always

L-sit — because Coach says (they’re working, by the way)

Squat — good diagnostic to see how normal you are (or dys-normal, as Kelly says)


KEY MATCHUP: the last rep or two of each pull-up set vs. your natural desire to kip and chicken neck


SCALING THIS WELL WILL CAUSE ME TO: pretend like I’m going to the bathroom for a Kleenex but really just trying to find the nearest mirror to admire my arm veins.


GENERAL FEAR LEVEL (1=REST DAY, 10=PR-DRIVEN FGB): 3. Max reps sucks, but much less than lungs exploding, plus strict movements are more limited than strict ones.


GENERAL EMASCULATING LEVEL (1=WHO DOES RING HSPU ANYWAY?, 10=THIS TEENAGE GIRL IS DEADLIFTING MORE THAN ME): 4. That second set of presses will be a wake-up call to see how good your stamina is.

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Jim Rix
March 18th, 2019 at 12:47 am

Chris, for the right stimulus here, about how many BP reps should we trying to hit?

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Chris Meldrum
March 18th, 2019 at 1:47 am

So it's like Lynne, but strict and only 3 rounds. Lynne fear level is high, but this one seems not so bad. Maybe 5. Strict pull-ups for max reps can still hurt though.

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Chris Sinagoga
March 18th, 2019 at 2:03 am

That's tough to give a specific number. Simple answer would be over 10 for all 3 rounds. A better answer would be a number where you really felt like you needed to rest for a long time before getting to pull-ups.


Mel, I agree. Strict for max reps can hurt, but muscular fatigue can restrict the suck level sometimes. I got 19 2/3 on my first round, 11 on my 2nd, and 9 on my third. It definitely sucked but max reps kipping pull-ups makes me want to die. I usually only make it through 3 rounds of Lynne.

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Jim Rix
March 18th, 2019 at 3:41 am

Tks Chris and Eric for some ideas. 19 2/3 strict pu is pretty impressive, Chris.

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