Commented on: In Defense of High-Rep Olympic Lifts
Ripptoe has turned into a fitness curmudgeon. I’d take the overall fitness and strength blend of a CF athlete over a massive 1RM Olympic lift any day.
One quibble with CF and Burgener’s methodology: I just don’t see how doing unloaded movements with a PVC pipe is useful…I get no feedback, positive or negative, from such unweighted movements. For example, I do OHS as part of my warmup, based on the original CF warmup, with a 45# bar, not PVC as was originally Rx. I just can’t really tell if I have a PVC in the right position, whereas the Barr will definitely tell me.
Thoughts, anyone?
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Chris Meldrum
April 17th, 2023 at 1:15 pm
Agree 100%. PVC is great to drill the technique initially, but you definitely need weight on the bar for feedback. How much will depend on how strong you are, and how much feedback you need (i.e., how refined your technique is).
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Kristina Perry
April 16th, 2023 at 12:23 pm
Commented on: In Defense of High-Rep Olympic Lifts
Great article. A Salt Shaker moment.
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Chris Sinagoga
April 16th, 2023 at 1:58 am
Commented on: In Defense of High-Rep Olympic Lifts
I really like Mark Rippetoe's writing style and I thought his comments were way more funny than insulting. I know I've let some of our peeps get away with sloppy form as fatigue set in, whether it's in clean and jerks or regular air squats. The one thing I'd add is that having high rep Olympic lifts as a staple in the program really give some context for technique on one rep maxes - meaning, you want to make sure there aren't any differences in your max effort snatches and Isabel. Things like set-up, hook grip, high hang pocket, and knees forward landing might be a dead-end and not as applicable to doing high reps.
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Chris Meldrum
April 17th, 2023 at 1:20 pm
Look, we test (challenge) our technique in multiple ways - increasing load being the most common. But increasing speed is a great way as well. It absolutely will help one refine technique. Not completely balanced bringing the barbell down from a clean & jerk? Well your off-balance position will make that next rep very difficult. Don't have the bar fully racked going from clean to jerk? That rep is going to be far out in front of you, and make it tough to continue without taking a step forward. Barbell cycling is an unappreciated skill - even in the CrossFit world. As reps get higher, it makes sense strictly from a "work capacity" framework, to drop the bar and just do singles. I think Boz's programming in the Games will bring back more emphasis on barbell cycling.
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Tom Cuff
April 16th, 2023 at 1:17 am
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Well written Stephane! It feels continually frustrating that a lot of these arguments come from a lack of understanding of what we actually do (or strive to do) in the box
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YooSik Kim
August 13th, 2021 at 9:55 pm
Commented on: 210813
최후의 만찬
For time:
50 One-arm hang DB cleans .alt
50 Burpees
50 DB’s deadlift
50 Air squats
50 Ring-dips
50 Air squats
50 DB’s deadlift
50 Burpees
50 One-arm hang DB cleans .alt
Time cap:21 minutes
-402/450 reps
이렇게 해도 Regional 14.6 를 못 끝내내요 ㅠㅠ
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NA
August 13th, 2021 at 2:20 pm
Commented on: In Defense of High-Rep Olympic Lifts
mechanics-consistency-intensity: if it's not reinforced from the get go you end up with consistently poor-mechanics done at high intensity.
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Michael Arko
August 13th, 2021 at 1:47 pm
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Completed today, Friday 8/13 (rest day)
scaled to
500m run in lifting shoes
90 jumping pull-ups, extra wide grip*
lunges @ 95/95/75
17:40
*like C2B
sucked on OHL - took 3 mins just for that stretch (incl resetting the bar)
also it’s like 90F & 90% rh
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Richard Norris
August 11th, 2021 at 3:29 pm
Commented on: In Defense of High-Rep Olympic Lifts
These arguments are just as solid when applied to any sport. Watching the Olympics, all those athletes have achieved elite status because they have listened to their coaches who have dialled them in constantly, incessantly on holding technique even when fatigued. Each time this is done builds resilience and the ability to go a little further, a little harder, a litter faster the next time. Success and excellence are developed incrementally over time.
Start with the basics. Crush the fundamentals. When the focus is form before speed (mechanics-consistency before intensity), adaptations and, thus, fitness improves.
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