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10 pull-ups
20 push-ups
30 squats
Row 2,000 m
15 pull-ups
30 push-ups
45 squats
Row 1,000 m
20 pull-ups
40 push-ups
60 squats
Row 500 m

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Comments on What Is Fitness?

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Clarke Read
January 17th, 2019 at 10:26 pm
Commented on: What Is Fitness?

This and other recent posts (see 1/12/19, General Physical Preparedness) speak to the importance of definitions.


CrossFit is NOT the optimal intervention for advancing some "traditional" definitions of fitness. (Which the article itself notes in the intro) And so anybody who defines fitness as such will argue against CrossFit, and both feel and be correct in doing so within the framework they operate. To make any progress in the conversation, the core objective needs to be redefined - hopefully something that better tracks whatever INDIRECT objective we're all trying to achieve. (Here, I'd suppose high and durable functionality that is mostly context-independent)


We see the same thing in health contexts. If you define heart disease risk as, say a low total cholesterol level, certain interventions are and aren't going to be seen as effective, even if by other definitions of heart disease risk they would be optimal.


Very often, the most effective high-level intervention follows clearly and simply from that objective. Disputes over nearly any aspect of health, fitness, wellness, etc., seem to just as often follow from disagreements about what our precise objective ought to be as from how best to achieve it.

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Tyler Hass
January 17th, 2019 at 10:22 pm
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I still remember the controversy this article caused when it first came out. A lot of people were clinging to the "fit for what?" definition of fitness. A powerlifter friend of mine desperately wanted to assert that he was fit by denying the existence of fitness as a separate quality from sport preparedness. The working definitions provided in the 2002 article: the 10 physical skills, the hopper model and the 3 energy systems were the most comprehensive definition of fitness I’d seen at the time.

As good as this 3-part definition was in 2002, Coach greatly improved it by defining fitness as "power output over broad time and modal domains". I think this ended the “fit for what?” debate. Under this definition, fitness is a distinct and measurable entity.

The health-wellness-fitness continuum also sparked some debate. The main counter argument was that you can be fit and apparently healthy on the outside, but die suddenly from a congenital heart defect. The example of an Olympic figure skater was brought up. Other than these ticking time bomb scenarios, I think it's a useful model for explaining the relationship between health and fitness.

Again, I think Coach improved upon the continuum model when he introduced the 3d model of health and fitness. With work and time (lower case t, signifying workout time) graphed on the X and Y axis, you get fitness as the area under the curve. Extend this curve along the z-axis to represent Time (upper case, signifying time over lifespan). The volume under the resulting curve is health. You've now defined both fitness and health in terms of power output.

Previously, fitness was measured using VO2 Max, lactate threshold, body composition, knee extensor strength and other correlates. Health was defined in terms of blood pressure, body comp, triglycerides, cholesterol and other correlates. It’s a big advancement to define both health and fitness in terms of power output.

CrossFit was way ahead of its time in 2002. It's inspiring to see that it's still evolving in 2019.

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Spenser Smith
January 17th, 2019 at 12:01 pm
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In the 2002 article, it states that a blood pressure of 105/55 is consistent with athletes. Also on the facebook page the numbers on a recently posted animation of the wellness continuum are 90/60. What are organized data sets/evidence support these numbers?


I am interested in what is being used to support this because I know that many will initially scoff at the idea that lower-than-normal blood pressure (120/80) can be non-pathological. In my field, whenever low blood pressure/hypotension is discussed it is considered an acute problem. My literature searches regarding blood pressure only seem to result in studies discussing the sickness side of the continuum.


Anecdotally I know this is true in principle, but I believe it would strengthen the idea of wellness as a continuum if the data to support it were published alongside the wellness continuum. (Maybe they have been?) Regarding blood pressure, it would help to clarify the difference between someone with fitness (low blood pressure a result of athleticism, diet) vs someone with disease (low blood pressure caused by hypertension meds, heart disease). Thank you in advance to anyone who can point this out to me.

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Shakha Gillin
January 17th, 2019 at 3:06 pm

These values represent examples on the continuum. BP has standard references ranges but of course varies with gender, age, height. Example 100-110/70 maybe ideal for a male in his 20’s versus 90/60 for a fit female.


People on meds for BP (or other markers) aren’t fit even if their numbers correlate.


http://www.onlinejacc.org/content/71/19/2199?_ga=2.102782853.425402262.1544153224-1880158242.1544153224

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Spenser Smith
January 18th, 2019 at 3:13 am

Thanks for commenting Shakha. You make an important distinction that anyone on meds or with a disease essentially won't fit on the continuum. I'll be able to use that rationale in the future.


I noticed you posted the latest BP guidelines, which is funny- I was looking at them when I posted this! From what I can tell, they only discuss BP on the sickness side of the curriculum. This is something in which I am somewhat well versed. But I don't see anything about BP in healthy athletes, or anything other than <120/80.


Is lower always better, assuming improved fitness is driving the change? It seems to me that if BPs lower than 120/80 are farther to the right on the continuum, maybe goal blood pressure shouldn't be <130/90, or 120/80, but instead "as low as possible through exercising (safely)". If one could get to a resting BP of 90/60 in their 20s, does that create more of a "buffer" against future chronic diseases related to high blood pressure?

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Shakha Gillin
January 18th, 2019 at 5:06 am

Spenser, great discussion. People who have disease or are on meds are on the continuum, just more to the sickness side. For exact numbers, it varies for each individual. Lower is better up to a certain point. Similar to benchmark workouts, your time will vary with age and wellness.

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Michael Emery
January 18th, 2019 at 4:43 pm

I think the illustration here and the entire concept of the sickness-wellness-fitness continuum is that no single marker listed (or other biomarker) defines it. You cannot take BP as a single measure and say it defines any specific point on this continuum. There are many markers that are then reflective of where you may be on the continuum but not a single marker. You cannot drive you BP "too low" with exercise along, physiology and homeostasis will not allow it. It can be too low from being overmedicated, sepsis, cariogenic shock but the element here is that if your BP is low it results in poor organ perfusion and is pathology - you are sick. You can have a low BP without being in shock or on meds while perfusing your organs and still be "sick" too. Many patients with severe cardiomyopathies have systolic BPs in the 80s or 90s, but are asymptomatic. The key for me is to not take any single measurement listed here out of context or get fixated on an exact number but think of it as an output variable illustrative of where the the entire human is along the continuum.

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