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Tuesday

190115

Workout of the Day

185

Complete as many rounds as possible in 20 minutes of:

15 strict pull-ups
30 push-ups
45 squats

Post rounds completed to comments.

A generation of research on the diet-heart question has ended in disarray.

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Doug Brubacher
June 28th, 2023 at 3:36 am
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CFWUx1

4r +10 PUs

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Matthieu Dubreucq
October 25th, 2019 at 12:43 am
Commented on: The Framingham Heart Study, Part 1: Cargo Cult Science

If you go back to 190113 the video that talks of causality vs observation gives similar le examples on that subject.

I have never really took the time to realize that must study we read in regular media is based on observations.

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Shawn Hakimi
October 15th, 2019 at 1:17 pm
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3+10 pull ups Rx'd

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Joel Wuollet
February 25th, 2019 at 4:10 pm
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2019-02-25

2 rounds

+10 pull-ups (toes on floor)

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Park Hyunwook
February 19th, 2019 at 11:06 am
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남/48/20190219

8r (10-20-30)

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John Doody
February 18th, 2019 at 2:14 pm
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5rds + 3 pull-ups Rx’d following Grace

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Kevin Miller
February 12th, 2019 at 11:29 pm
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I scaled pull-ups to banded pull-downs

4+69 reps

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Kury Akin
February 9th, 2019 at 2:29 pm
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4R+2r. Ring pulls & fist pushes broken into 3 sets each. SQ as Rx.

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Jeff Chalfant
February 5th, 2019 at 9:06 pm
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4 rounds plus 5 strict pull-ups rxd

Still have residual mucous from a cold I picked up last week but feeling a lot better today. Broke pull-ups 7-5-3 and pushups 10-8-6-4-2 first 2 rounds but then pull-ups went to 6-5-3-1 r3 and then 3-3-3-3-2-1, 1-4, pushups in 6s, 4s, and 2s after round 2 and all squats unbroken but not hurried. A couple sumo mandarins and matí© for fuel.

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Nate Gordon
February 2nd, 2019 at 8:15 pm
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4 rounds + 12 pull ups

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Sebastien Hotte
January 29th, 2019 at 8:47 pm
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Did 3x max pull ups and 3x max push-up and 45 squat

Pull up was 11-7

Push up 28-17

Squat all 45 unbroken

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Benoît Silvestre
January 28th, 2019 at 7:21 am
Commented on: Anatomy of Levers, Part 1: First-Class Levers

Is there a relationship with balance to find his load in order to have intensity in his training? or I'm wrong?

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Matthieu Dubreucq
October 25th, 2019 at 12:15 am

I am not sure if this is about levers. But you are right there is a right weight to maximize intensity. Just like there is a right weight if you want to through a ball far. A foam ball won’t go far, a metal ball will be too heavy and a baseball ball is the ideal weight to be thrown far. So everyone will have a ideal weight to maximize their relative intensity in a given workout, and at a given capacity. Please refer to relative intensity in the definition of CrossFit in the level 1 training guide.

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kevin robinson
January 27th, 2019 at 8:57 pm
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3 full rounds plus 30(15+15) rx

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Dan Kremer
January 27th, 2019 at 3:33 pm
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3 rds + 5 Pull ups Rx’d

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Marcelo Oscar Almarante
January 27th, 2019 at 2:32 pm
Commented on: Anatomy of Levers, Part 1: First-Class Levers

I learned this in elementary school, apply it to the anatomy for training is great

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Pyer-Hugh Dion
January 26th, 2019 at 7:53 pm
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7 round + 15 reps

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Manchild Manchild
January 26th, 2019 at 6:24 pm
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4 rounds + 5 pull-ups

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Antoine Lenouvel
January 26th, 2019 at 7:10 am
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4 Rds + 7 reps

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Matt Crouse
January 25th, 2019 at 3:29 am
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4 rounds +9 pull ups

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Max Black
January 24th, 2019 at 4:36 am
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5 plus 10 pull-ups

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Chris Martinez
January 23rd, 2019 at 7:15 pm
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RX - 4 + 15

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William Ma
January 23rd, 2019 at 5:47 pm
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4 rounds + 17 pushups

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Chris Meldrum
January 22nd, 2019 at 7:50 pm
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As rx’d, 5 rounds + 7 pull-ups.


Pull-ups mostly in sets of 5. Push-ups in 7’s and 8’s. Unbroken squats. Was shooting for 4-minute rounds.


45m/5'10"/180

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ART SHELDON
January 20th, 2019 at 2:58 pm
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M/50/5’5”/155


4+15+30+15


420 reps

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Shannon Said
January 20th, 2019 at 11:20 am
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L pull ups instead of strict


4th round 5 push ups

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Chris Meldrum
January 22nd, 2019 at 8:05 pm

glutton for punishment...love it!

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Hank McKibban
January 19th, 2019 at 10:56 pm
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6 rds+5 pull-ups (kipping)

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Christopher Voght
January 19th, 2019 at 4:17 pm
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3+19 rx

289 reps

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Brian Rosenbaum
January 19th, 2019 at 12:01 am
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M/56/6'2"/179

RX'd - with strict form on all

4 rounds exactly.

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Mike de Graauw
January 19th, 2019 at 2:22 pm

Nice work Brian

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Mike de Graauw
January 18th, 2019 at 6:25 pm
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3 rnds + 45


M/59/6’2”/230

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Erik Lueders
January 18th, 2019 at 5:50 pm
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Rx 4rds & 11 pull ups

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Clint Michael
January 18th, 2019 at 12:34 pm
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3 rounds plus 17 reps

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Viktor Wachtler
January 18th, 2019 at 12:11 pm
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6 rounds as RX

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Jesse Montagnino
January 18th, 2019 at 6:58 am
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5 Rounds plus 11 pull ups RX

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Katina Thornton
January 17th, 2019 at 10:14 pm
Commented on: The Framingham Heart Study, Part 1: Cargo Cult Science

Dr. Eades, I enjoyed your article. I never took statistics and was not trained in how to critically dissect a journal article, published paper, or a study. I simply took my premed classes, put my head down for the grind of medical school and residency, and trusted the "smart doctors" training me to tell me what was correct and what was incorrect. Therein lies the flaw. I have spent the last three years unlearning much of what I blindly took as the truth. CrossFit, and what is now CrossFit Health, initiated that journey and have been with me every step of the way. The greatest gift is that now my children understand the value of skepticism and careful interpretation of what we read and hear.

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Katina Thornton
January 17th, 2019 at 9:33 pm
Commented on: Anatomy of Levers, Part 1: First-Class Levers

CrossFit is the science of fitness, and now we explore the science of movement,better known as physics. Thank you.

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Pavel Stas
January 17th, 2019 at 8:50 pm
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5 rounds + 4 pull ups. Rx

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Dmitry Zolotyh
January 17th, 2019 at 6:04 pm
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Scaled

Complete as many rounds as possible in 20 minutes of:

10 strict pull-ups

20 push-ups

30 squats

4 rounds + 6 reps

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Denis Gomez
January 17th, 2019 at 5:41 pm
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490 reps

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Tim Driedric
January 17th, 2019 at 4:50 pm
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5rds + 33 reps.

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Craig Collins
January 17th, 2019 at 4:39 pm
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3 rds + 35 reps. Thought I could get to 4 rounds, since the strict Cindy I got 13 rounds. But my strict pull up endurance went out the window quickly

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John DIFABIO
January 17th, 2019 at 3:58 pm
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3 rds plus 55 reps

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Matt Duplessis
January 17th, 2019 at 2:53 pm
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4+25 Rx

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bob teixeira
January 17th, 2019 at 2:30 pm
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6 rounds Rx

m/50/67"/145

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tOM cLAXTON
January 17th, 2019 at 1:16 pm
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2 Rds. + 45


247/0114

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Brian Conti
January 17th, 2019 at 4:31 am
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4 rds Rx

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Christian Cannon
January 17th, 2019 at 3:20 am
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6 rounds, 9 reps

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Coastie Nick
January 17th, 2019 at 2:46 am
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7 rounds Rx’d

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ELyle ETheriot
January 17th, 2019 at 2:08 am
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3+53 RX

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Kurtis Bowler
January 17th, 2019 at 1:06 am
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3 rounds plus 2 pull-ups Rx

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Nathan Bynum
January 17th, 2019 at 1:02 am
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Rx

3 rounds + 15 pull-ups + 30 push-ups + 17 squats

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Richard Foster
January 17th, 2019 at 12:26 am
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M47/170

3 rnds, 10 pull-ups, 15 push-ups

10 pull-ups on rnd 4 due to a tear in right hand

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Paul Beblowski
January 16th, 2019 at 10:30 pm
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2+23

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Nathanael Akin
January 16th, 2019 at 9:43 pm
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5 rounds RX plus 15 strict pull ups and 20 push ups. Very cool to see development in these movements, and that’s part of the purpose of all these similar workouts with strict pull ups. We want to observe, measure, and repeat. We trade repetition for some variation temporarily, but my guess is that we all are becoming fitter for all this practice. Nice job, HQ!

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Juana Garcia
January 16th, 2019 at 9:19 pm
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4 rounds even rx with a 14lbs weight vest, female 29yrs

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Brendan Roche
January 16th, 2019 at 8:13 pm
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x4 rnds


rx

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Tom Perry
January 16th, 2019 at 7:27 pm
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57 / 172


as rx'd


5 complete plus the pull-ups in the 6th.

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Noor Greene
January 16th, 2019 at 7:17 pm
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3 rounds + 13 reps RX’d.

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Albert Lu
January 16th, 2019 at 6:50 pm
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3 rounds + 4 strict pull-ups

Done wearing 20-lb. ruck in preparation for GORUCK Light Challenge this Saturday

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Scott Jacobson
January 16th, 2019 at 5:32 pm
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5’8” / 161 lb / 20 / M


Rx’d

7 rd and one bonus pull-up

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Nate Schnittger
January 16th, 2019 at 5:14 pm
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5 rounds + 30 reps. First timer so I went with kipping pull-ups since I wasn’t sure how to scale until reading some comments.

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Kevin Boudreau
January 16th, 2019 at 3:44 pm
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Still letting right elbow rest

15 left arm ring row

30 PU

45 air squats

4+62

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Maher Alsayid
January 16th, 2019 at 2:51 pm
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all strict pull ups - push-ups to the floor - squats 10cm bottom from ground 3 rounds, i placed weights on the ground to make sure I'm all the way down.

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Amanda Gray
January 16th, 2019 at 2:46 pm
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3RDS + 35reps

Modified pullups to chin-ups, kept them strict for the most part

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Luis Beza
January 16th, 2019 at 2:11 pm
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AMRAP 20'

10 Ring rows (Belly buttom)

10/10 Landmine press (20kg)

30 Air squats


Score= 7R+31


*Push ups on monday, triceps are sore! Change push ups for Landmine press!

*Shoulder is pain free! Landmine press was grate before start pressing overhead!

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Jesus Portento
January 16th, 2019 at 1:22 pm
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2 rounds + 40 reps. RX

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Jacob Tennis
January 16th, 2019 at 1:06 pm
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Rx

4 RNDs, 15 pull-ups, 30 push-ups, 15 squats

M/38/5’10”/171

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Dave DeCoste
January 16th, 2019 at 11:58 am
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5 rounds + 8 pull-ups

Rx

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James Kinton
January 16th, 2019 at 11:38 am
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4 rounds plus 25 push-ups

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Dan Foster
January 16th, 2019 at 8:44 am
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4rds + 13 reps

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Js Smith
January 16th, 2019 at 3:33 am
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Didn’t trust the body with the fatigue. Looks like the average was 4 rounds.

Scaled to 4 rounds for time:

15 ring rows

30 knee push-ups

45 squats

20:40


Got closer than I thought it’d be. 😁

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Randy Sigman
January 16th, 2019 at 3:31 am
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12-24-36

5rds +5

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Brian Louchis
January 16th, 2019 at 3:27 am
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5+1 Rx

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Camille Isabel
January 16th, 2019 at 3:15 am
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Scaled:

20 min AMRAP

10 strict pull ups

20 push ups

30 air squats

completed 4 rounds and 10 push ups

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Jake Kiddoo
January 16th, 2019 at 2:59 am
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4 plus 10 rx

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Dezert Sky Kiddoo
January 16th, 2019 at 2:58 am
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2+44 rxd

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Drew Resuoc
January 16th, 2019 at 2:49 am
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Did Cindy yesterday so:

4 Rds

10 flat bench,95#

10 KB Swing, 45#

15 Box Jump, 24"

150 Single Unders

11:07

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Leah Crandall
January 16th, 2019 at 2:37 am
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3+45. I scaled it slightly and did the banded pull-ups. Overall felt great and accomplished!

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Phill Kiddoo
January 16th, 2019 at 2:03 am
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Drop in WOD at CrossFit ASAP H Street

50 Wallballs 20#

then

3 rounds of

20 DB snatch 50#

10 burpee box jump overs 24”

9:49

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Mervin Zook
January 16th, 2019 at 1:31 am
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5 rounds,, 61 pull-ups,, 130 pushups,, 230 squats,, & I’m beat,, but happy :))

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Tim Miller
January 16th, 2019 at 1:22 am
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6 rounds.


I wonder if they have ever done a study on how CrossFit benefits recovering addicts. I am a recovering alcoholic and this program is a big reason why I’m sober today. It gives me something to focus on and offers a community of people of all backgrounds who are passionate about being healthy. Thanks for being awesome everyone!

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Lisa Stanley
January 16th, 2019 at 1:41 am

Hey Tim! Congrats on your sobriety. While I didn’t come to CrossFit after getting sober 10 years ago, I did turn back to the gym. It’s a great stabilizer and helps with a lot of the energy I had been putting into the wrong places.

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Js Smith
January 16th, 2019 at 3:29 am

Congratulations Tim. Keep up the great work.

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Juan Acevedo
January 16th, 2019 at 1:09 am
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Visit dotcomscaled on instagram for scaling options

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Mike Warkentin
January 16th, 2019 at 12:56 am
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4 rounds + 9 Rx

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Tripp Starling
January 16th, 2019 at 12:51 am
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Rx- 4 rounds + 1 pull-up

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Michael Bishop
January 16th, 2019 at 12:50 am
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4 + 35 reps

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Jesse Delander
January 16th, 2019 at 12:32 am
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5+14 RX

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Joe Carlson
January 16th, 2019 at 1:17 am

Nice work!

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Alvin Valdez
January 16th, 2019 at 12:21 am
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5 Rds at 26th rep of Squats at Rx'd

M/47/166lbs/5'9"

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Sean Rockett
January 16th, 2019 at 12:16 am
Commented on: Anatomy of Levers, Part 1: First-Class Levers

Looking for ward to the rest of the material.

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Matt Bischel
January 16th, 2019 at 12:10 am
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4 rounds plus 5 pull-ups Rx'd.

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Elliott Harding
January 15th, 2019 at 11:50 pm
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Warmed up with 1/14/19


2 rounds + 31 squats.


Black/red bands.

Knee pushups. Hands off deck.

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Josh Fansler
January 15th, 2019 at 11:25 pm
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RX: 3 complete rounds + 4th round to the 4th rep of squats

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Jeremiah DiPerna
January 15th, 2019 at 11:16 pm
Commented on: Anatomy of Levers, Part 1: First-Class Levers

Scaling at its finest. Appreciate the illustrational work. I’m new to the Sport and am glad to see the behind the scenes prep.

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Danny Bostwick
January 15th, 2019 at 11:01 pm
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Screwed up and thought this was a 15 min amrap. Stupid. Anyway, got 3+ 15 PU. Did the first 2 sets of pull-ups unbroken which I was pumped about. Scaled to above parallel box squats for my knee injury.

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Chad Dixon
January 15th, 2019 at 10:54 pm
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3 + 29 Rx (188)

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Lisa Stanley
January 15th, 2019 at 10:53 pm
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Today I subbed for something more terrible:

5x5 bodyweight deadlifts (165#)

Then, for time:

Push ups 2

Pull ups 1

Sit ups 3

Air squats 2

Then increase again by 2, 1, 3 and 2 until you’re doing a final set of 20 push ups, 10 pull ups, 30 sit ups and 20 air squats. Then run a mile.

I finished in 26:20.

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Joe Alexander
January 15th, 2019 at 10:45 pm
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4+32 RX

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Brian Anderson
January 15th, 2019 at 10:40 pm
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6 rds + 2 reps Rx

M-42-69-170#

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Jeff Chalfant
January 15th, 2019 at 10:33 pm
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“Annie” (WOD from 3 weeks ago)

6:54 rx’d ish. Upon video review I had 49 DU round one and 41 on round 2! One or two trip ups. Unbroken unanchored butterfly sit-ups with normal abmat.

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Chris Meldrum
January 15th, 2019 at 10:11 pm
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Was trying to post this on 12/20/18, but site doesn't seem to be accepting comments, so I guess I'll post here.


Complete as many rounds as possible in 12 minutes of:

3 rope climbs, 15-ft. rope

20 box jumps, 30”


As rx’d, 5 rounds.


This was the WOD that came up the day my Dad died. I’m considering using this as the memorial WOD for him, seeing as I can’t find any Hero WODs named “Pete”. In any case, this was hard but not too bad. Tried to push through the rope climbs each round — 3 is not that many. Had wanted to do rebounding box jumps, but they are high enough that it felt awkward, and I am honestly a tad afraid of Achilles problems on high rebounding box jumps. In most cases, I jumped down anyway, but in later rounds, I managed to find a rhythm of jumping up / stepping down.


45m/5'10"/180

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Js Smith
January 16th, 2019 at 3:30 am

Condolences 😔

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Chris Meldrum
January 16th, 2019 at 10:13 pm

Thank you

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Matthew Burritt
January 15th, 2019 at 10:07 pm
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M/42/5'4"/147lbs

As Rx'd

5 rounds plus 15 pull ups and 20 push ups

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Jacob Cram
January 15th, 2019 at 10:05 pm
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5 Rounds Rx

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Aaron Sylvia
January 15th, 2019 at 9:59 pm
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Triple Strict Cindy..........

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Dylan Hubbard
January 15th, 2019 at 9:42 pm
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9 rounds + 15 reps

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Steve Adams
January 15th, 2019 at 9:33 pm
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RX

4 rounds+ 15 pull ups, 30 push ups and 2 squats

185M/6'3"/36

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Rory Mckernan
January 15th, 2019 at 9:27 pm
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4 rounds, plus 23

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Shane Azizi
January 15th, 2019 at 9:03 pm
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5 rounds + 7 strict pull us. Rx

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Samantha Trujillo
January 15th, 2019 at 8:41 pm
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3+30

Scaled: single arm row(20)/banded push-ups

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Joseph Fox
January 15th, 2019 at 7:55 pm
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Was super pressed for time. Decided to go for 2 rounds, super strict, for time. 10:51. Arms are smoked. This is my 9th main site WOD in 15 days. January 1st was my first real workout in MONTHS. This is like getting thrown in a fire but embracing the burn.

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kleyn Lopez
January 15th, 2019 at 7:49 pm
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I almost finished the 5th round. I also had to move to assisted pull ups and pushups toreares the end. Was a foot workout to set as a baseline

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Hendrik Bünzen
January 15th, 2019 at 7:49 pm
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4+18 rx’d

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Fadi Theodory
January 15th, 2019 at 7:37 pm
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4 rounds + 15 pullups + 30 push ups. Pull ups scaling

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Kyle Smock
January 15th, 2019 at 7:31 pm
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M/44yo/5'8/#202

Rx_4+36

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Nathan Michael King
January 15th, 2019 at 7:19 pm
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4 + 32 Rx

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Rafael Bello Pereira
January 15th, 2019 at 7:11 pm
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4 Rounds

M/ 82kg/ 1,80m

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Scott MacArthur
January 15th, 2019 at 7:02 pm
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4+1 pull-up. Tough

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Tiffany Lance
January 15th, 2019 at 6:32 pm
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3 Rounds completed (purple band pull-up assist). On an additional note, I found a stellar timer for CF called SmartWOD. It allows you to sleep your countdown time, logs laps/rounds with the timer and logs your full workout. It also has to timer/amrap/emom/tabata options. Free in the Google Play store.

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Ellen Black
January 15th, 2019 at 6:26 pm
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3 rds: banded strick pull ups

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Lionel Português
January 15th, 2019 at 6:16 pm
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6 RDS + 45 Rx 20:58

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Rebecca Cunningham Rose
January 15th, 2019 at 6:14 pm
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3 rounds + 12 squats

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Veronique Oomen
January 15th, 2019 at 6:14 pm
Commented on: The Framingham Heart Study, Part 1: Cargo Cult Science

In order to prove causation, correlation is necessary but not sufficient. You also need a plausible mechanism based on accepted scientific principles. In the absence of a plausible mechanism, ice cream consumption definitely causes sunburn.


In order to take drastic actions like condemning entire food groups such as red meat, we should demand not just a "feel-good" explanation of a mechanism, but proof that every step claimed to take place, actually does. And the latter is where the lipid hypothesis has fallen short time and again.


And maybe it's just me, but lines of thinking that rely on the absence of self-regulating mechanisms, (like calorie-counting as the only way to stay lean; do you really think your body doesn't regulate weight...?) or discount what humans evolved to do and eat (do you really think that survival does not depend on health?), can never make sense. So I'll stick with lifting heavy, constantly varied movement, little or no sugar and enjoy my steak. And when a doc prescribes statins, I'll change doctors.

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Romain Grelier
January 15th, 2019 at 6:06 pm
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4R + 15 pulls ups + 9 push-ups RX

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Weon-Woo Lee
January 15th, 2019 at 5:54 pm
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5R + 17. Rx

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Paul Rosch
January 15th, 2019 at 5:46 pm
Commented on: The Framingham Heart Study, Part 1: Cargo Cult Science

Dr. George Mann was a co-director of the Framingham study and was involved early on to develop a nutritional survey to evaluate the effect of diet on cholesterol. His extensive analysis of the results completed by 1960 was never published, probably because it found that participants had widely varying cholesterol levels and that "something explains this inter individual variation, but it is not diet." William Kannel, Director of the Framingham study from 1966 to 1979, never referred to this, and Ancel Keys, a strong proponent of a low-fat diet who was referred to in the media as "Mr. Cholesterol", was featured on the cover of the January 13, 1961 issue of Time magazine. As one leading authority triumphantly proclaimed, "No other variable in the mode of life beside the fat calories in the diet is known which shows such a constant relationship to the mortality rate from coronary or degenerative heart disease".


Unfortunately, the Framingham study has had more of an impact on CHD research than any other epidemiological study. A review of the 10 greatest advances in cardiology in the last century listed Framingham in second place with "Lipid Hypotheses" and Atherosclerosis in third. The reason for this is that it allegedly provided the first "solid evidence" that people with a high cholesterol were more likely to have a heart attack and that smoking and hypertension also increased risk. William Kannel, Director of the Framingham study during the 1960’s, told the press that the Framingham results essentially proved that cholesterol was a powerful predictor of CHD. However, this was not supported by data showing that half of heart attacks occurred in people with normal or low cholesterol. A direct association was later reported between falling cholesterol levels over the first 14 years of the study and increased mortality rates over the following 18 years. A 30-year follow-up study in 1987 stated, "The most important overall finding is the emergence of the total cholesterol as a risk factor of CHD in the elderly". No data were presented to support this erroneous claim. Indeed, for men above the age of 47, those with low cholesterol had mortality rates greater than those with high cholesterol. In addition, those whose cholesterol had decreased spontaneously over 30 years were at greater risk of dying from heart disease than those whose cholesterol had increased. "For each 1% mg. drop in cholesterol there was an 11% increase in coronary and total mortality.


Although the study found that a drop in cholesterol was associated with increased coronary deaths, it was cited as supporting the cholesterol-CHD link in The Cholesterol Facts, a subsequent joint American Heart Association-NIH publication, which stated that “The results of the Framingham study indicate that a 1% reduction in cholesterol corresponds to a 2% reduction in CHD risk The real truth about diet and cholesterol came out in a 1992 Archives Of Internal Medicine article stating that, "in Framingham, Mass, the more saturated fat one ate, the more cholesterol one ate, the more calories one ate, the lower the person's serum cholesterol". The author was William Castelli, Director of the Framingham study at the time.

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Evan Walton
January 15th, 2019 at 5:39 pm
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4 rounds ended up doing knee pushups on last round.

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Christopher Baker
January 15th, 2019 at 5:33 pm
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5 rds + 12 pull-ups

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John Clarke
January 15th, 2019 at 5:11 pm
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5 rounds + 5 pullups

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Vincent Dahlqvist
January 15th, 2019 at 5:11 pm
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4 rounds + 10 strict PU RX

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Jeremy Meier
January 15th, 2019 at 5:09 pm
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4 + 10 Rx

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Cherese Matthews
January 15th, 2019 at 5:07 pm
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4 Rounds + 5 pull ups RX

F/5’5”/29/145

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Reymond Kiddoo
January 15th, 2019 at 4:56 pm
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3 rounds + 15 push ups. (Scale to kip pull ups )

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Emily Pisarski
January 15th, 2019 at 4:42 pm
Commented on: The Framingham Heart Study, Part 1: Cargo Cult Science

Interesting article! Experienced researchers should not argue that correlation=causation. You will find that researchers are often careful to use any causal language since as you point out, most findings from any study lead us to a hypothesis not a concrete outcome. Yet, to understand how various behaviors affect our health in the long run, it is challenging to avoid using observational studies. The funding and follow-up necessary to complete a 30 year long RCT is usually just not feasible. Before you hold RCT's as the gold standard, keep in mind that even within RCT's it is often very difficult to make sure that everyone is getting the exact same dose of an intervention. CrossFit Health readers may enjoy reading qualitative research studies as they tell individual stories that once again, provide us with pieces of a puzzle that may someday add up to optimal health outcomes. Qualitative studies can also oftentimes give us insight into what is truly happening to people in various arms of a randomized controlled trial vs. what is supposed to be happening given their study arm assignment.


It is more than fair that CrossFit is questioning research methodologies and academic journal publications, but as part of the CrossFit Health scale-up, I'd urge you to also take a look at the medical education system as a whole. If we can interrupt the cycle of standard practices that are not backed by research and/or not working to improve health, we can have better outcomes here in the US.

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Adrian Aguilar
January 15th, 2019 at 4:27 pm
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This workout put it ON me! I didn't intend to have this goal coming into 2019, but I'm loving this programming and am committing to follow .com for the whole year. This stuff is amazing. I've done 10/12 of these wods so far this year but this is my first commenting. I'm IN!


M/5'10"/33/190


5 Rounds + 2 Pull Ups


*Stuck to overhand on all pull ups even though I desperately wanted to switch to underhand to keep moving. Legs long, toes pointed. Oof.

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Chris Alexander
January 15th, 2019 at 9:25 pm

Awesome !

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Lynne Pitts
January 15th, 2019 at 4:23 pm
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Really like this - so useful to have the physics laid out - looking forward to the continuation of this series.

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Tarun Sharma
January 15th, 2019 at 4:20 pm
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Rx 4rds 12pullups

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Non ho Capito
January 15th, 2019 at 4:17 pm
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5rd RX 17 YEARS OLD

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Chris Meldrum
January 22nd, 2019 at 8:08 pm

ho capito io

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NA
January 15th, 2019 at 3:36 pm
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completed as indicated....5 rounds + 3 Pull ups

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John Nisbet
January 15th, 2019 at 3:32 pm
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Love the direction that CrossFit is taking. Started in late 2008 and was initially taken by the fitness and sport. My introduction was taught by Graham Holmberg as it happens. As time has evolved, I'm fitter at 44 than was at 34 - and light years more educated as it relates to health. Have a background myself in physiology, and a close family friend struggling with Type 2 diabetes, so this direction and refocus for content is invigorating to help others such as her.


I'm sure CF Health folks review a LOT of what is current and has been historically published, but I found this and those like it to be very interesting as it relates to helping those with diabetes. Off the couch, off the carbs, so to speak.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29508274


Thanks Coach, for what you and CF are doing.

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Kisa Tiller
January 15th, 2019 at 3:30 pm
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15 strict pull-ups (2-3 bands assistance)

30 honest push-ups (incline)

45 squats

4 Rounds + 5 pushups


Fiancí© Rx 4 Rounds + 7 pull-ups

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Randy Long
January 15th, 2019 at 3:22 pm
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Rx 4 rounds on the nose

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Michael Arko
January 15th, 2019 at 3:22 pm
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15 box jumps 24", 30 sit-ups, 45 squats -- 5 rounds + 15 BJ + 30 SU. (Absolutely staying off the shoulder.) Note last week for "strict Cindy" I subbed 10 GHDs whereas today I did 30 sit-ups, so it's not completely analogous; but last week I did around 400 reps (13+) and today 495. Then and now, I tried to be strict with range of motion and precision on every single rep.

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Joshua Fox
January 15th, 2019 at 3:10 pm
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Thanks Steve.

I think I found it? The nutrition videos?

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Gabe Bird
January 15th, 2019 at 3:03 pm
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RX 5rds +9pu

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Federico Rossi Mori
January 15th, 2019 at 2:59 pm
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me 4 rounds RX

coach michele 4+10 RX

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Arlin Mowatt
January 15th, 2019 at 2:58 pm
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Rx 4 rnds + 15 reps, M/48/6’1”/170lbs

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Uffe Ravnskov
January 15th, 2019 at 2:49 pm
Commented on: The Framingham Heart Study, Part 1: Cargo Cult Science

I agree with Michael Eades; association is not the same as causation. As said by the philosopher Karl Popper, a medical hypothesis can never be proven, but it can be falsified, and the cholesterol hypothesis has been falsified again and again. Let me for instance point at the fact that more than a dozen studies have shown that people with low cholesterol become just as atherosclerotic as people with high cholesterol. It is also a fact that although cardiovascular disease is the commonest cause of death, elderly people with high LDL-cholesterol live the longest. Read our BMJOpen review of 19 studies where the authors have followed more than 68,000 elderly people after having measured their “bad” LDL-cholesterol. In most of them, those with the highest LDL-cholesterol lived the longest. No study found the opposite: (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27292972 ).

This fact was documented already in the 30-year follow-up study from Framingham. Here the authors stated the following about those who had passed the age of 50: ‘For each 1 mg/dl drop in cholesterol per year, there was an eleven percent increase in coronary and total mortality’ (JAMA. 1987;257:2176-80).


The reason why high cholesterol is associated with heart disease in younger people is most likely that young and middle-aged people are more stressed than retired people, and stress is able to raise cholesterol by up to 40% and may cause heart disease by other mechanisms than by raising cholesterol.


If high cholesterol was the cause of atherosclerosis and cardiovascular disease, a high degree of cholesterol-lowering should of course be more beneficial than a low-degree lowering, but this is not the case; read our recent paper in Expert Review of Clinical Pharmacology: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/17512433.2018.1519391?needAccess=true . Here we have also shown that there are many more falsifications of the cholesterol hypothesis.


As an argument against Michael Eades´ view, Stanley Nasraway mentions that he and his wife have been tremendously financially prosperous at selling books and services on nutrition to the lay public. I doubt that they have earned much money this way. I myself have published three books about the cholesterol scandal; some of them in ten different languages. However, most of the publishers pay very little or nothing at all. For instance, Amazon, who is selling them all over the world, rarely pays me more than €30-40 per month. Those who become prosperous are those who support the cholesterol campaign, but they are clever to hide it. Recently, the American Heart Association published new guidelines for prevention of cardiovascular disease: https://www.semda.org/wp-content/media/New-2018-Lipid-Management-Guidelines.pdf . According to a large table on pages 71-73, none of the authors have any financial conflicts. However, beneath the table you can read the following:


The table does not necessarily reflect relationships with industry at the time of publication. A person is deemed to have a significant interest in a business if the interest represents ownership of ≥5% of the voting stock or share of the business entity, or ownership of ≥$5,000 of the fair market value of the business entity; or if funds received by the person from the business entity exceed 5% of the person’s gross income for the previous year.


May I suggest that Nasraway read my homepage: www.ravnskov.nu or my first book, The Cholesterol Myths (It is freely available in English from Smashwords: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/486704). To learn more about the criminal ways used by the drug industry and their well-paid supporters, I suggest a reading of my book Ignore the Awkward. How the Cholesterol Myths Are Kept Alive.

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Alex Broadbent
January 16th, 2019 at 3:30 am

Hi - just to be clear, Eades doesn't just say that association is not causation, which is surely correct. He also says that observational studies can't prove causation.


In fact, all science can ever establish is associations, no matter what methods you use.


There's then an INDUCTIVE inference (not a logical, deductive one - see Greg Glasman's comment above) to the conclusion that causation is present.


In this regard Dr Eades's piece is (in my opinion) flawed. In particular note that all the evidence for Crossfit, as for any other exercise programme, comes from "observational" research, as opposed to randomized controlled trials. That's because you can give someone a placebo pill and not tell them (this is "blinding") but you can't put someone on an exercise programme and not tell them! (Sadly...)

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Nicole Deaver
January 15th, 2019 at 2:48 pm
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5 Rds + 3 pull-ups Rx

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Joshua Fox
January 15th, 2019 at 2:32 pm
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My grace time was 17:20 using the weight they posted 135 lbs

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Joshua Fox
January 15th, 2019 at 2:30 pm
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I started CrossFit the beginning of the year. I also started the paleo diet. Not super strict but %95 paleo. My question is how many calories, fat, carb, protein should I be consuming in a day? I’m 5’7” and I weigh 158 lbs. I’d like to stay at that weight. Loose a little fat and gain muscle obviously. Thanks. I’ll post my time for the word later.

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Steve Haydock
January 15th, 2019 at 2:46 pm

CrossFit Journal Article 21.

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Kristen Cattell
January 15th, 2019 at 8:04 pm

If you don't know where to start for "Body Type" on the chart, go off of your T-shirt size. Ex: I wear a size small shirt, so my body type is "Small Female" therefore I eat 10 blocks per day.


Pages 53-59 of the Level1 Training guide :) http://library.crossfit.com/free/pdf/CFJ_English_Level1_TrainingGuide.pdf

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Hyoung il Shim
January 15th, 2019 at 2:21 pm
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6R+22push up

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Alex Broadbent
January 15th, 2019 at 2:21 pm
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Regarding the idea that observational studies can't prove causality, this is not correct, and is also an instance of the sort of crude over-simplification that I think the author would want to resist.


First things first - you can't really "prove" causality; it's an inductive inference.


Secondly, it's an over-simplification; observational studies CAN "prove" (= render probable enough to care seriously about) causality, it's just rare, and you usually need many of them, all triangulating on the same conclusion.


A better statement might be: observational studies always suffer from the risk of residual confounding, and it is very rare that a single study can be considered decisive for a causal conclusion.


Randomised controlled trials can likewise suffer from residual confounding, and suffer a number of problems of their own, one of which is the excessive faith placed in the protocol, which in reality is often breached. (The best piece of evidence for this is that it's much more common for a trial funded by a body with a vested interest in an outcome, such as a pharmaceutical, to find a positive result, than if it's done by an independent.)


Note also that the evidence for smoking causing lung cancer was all observational until very recently (long after everyone accepted that smoking causes lung cancer). The triangulation of results between many different studies, with different designs, performed by different investigators in different places on different subjects etc., can establish causality with sufficient certainty to legislate extensively and sue tobacco companies. See Austin Bradford Hill's legendary 1965 paper, "The Environment and Disease: Association or Causation?"


BUT most importantly for Crosstif - I don't think I exaggerate if I say that all the evidence for Crossfit is from observational studies. This is true for any exercise programme and is the curse of sports science generally. It's impossible to implement blinding protocols for an exercise programme.


Thus I think the CrossFit endorsement of a stance against all observational studies is self-defeating. Strong, clear statements are great, but they're not always true, and unfortunately the truth is sometimes complicated - as indeed is the argument of this piece in relation to Framingham.


Thanks for the provocation and stimulation!

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Alex Broadbent
January 15th, 2019 at 2:22 pm

PS I'm an academic who publishes on causal inference in the health sciences, among other things; I don't have any commercial interests in this matter

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Greg Glassman
January 15th, 2019 at 2:25 pm

Scientists are careful not to use the word "proof" knowing that there's no such thing, no such need, in science. "Proof" is the exclusive province of mathematics and logic.

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Clarke Read
January 15th, 2019 at 5:18 pm

Alex,

I have three questions for you, and I mean them very sincerely because I've asked them to lots of others without getting satisfying answers.


1. Regarding causal inference from observational studies, what relevance do the original Bradford Hill criteria have today? They're the only formal set of guidelines I'm aware of, and what I don't know is whether they still provide guidance to the field today, either directly or implicitly. If there's a more recent set of standards, I'd love to know about them.


2. Beyond the widely-cited example of smoking, are there any other modern (say, past 50 years) examples of successful causal inferences from observational research?


3. One situation that seems to come up frequently in the health sciences is a large number of observational studies all pointing in the same direction, but with weak magnitudes of effect (both individually and when analyzed in summary). How does such a situation shift the bar for causal inference, and at what point are you confident you are not observing the impact of a consistent confounder you have failed to account for?


Frankly, given the enormous costs and logistical constraints related to controlled clinical research, I would love for there to be at least a theoretical path forward for effective observational research in health sciences.

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Alex Broadbent
January 15th, 2019 at 6:10 pm

@ Clarke Read - I have a lot of reading I could recommend on this (including some by me... but by others too). There were a lot of these guidelines floating around in Bradford Hill's time. I suspect this was because of the political context: they were fighting corporate interests to establish something, and a long list of "alternative arguments" is what lawyers really need. It's not actually a formal method. More recently, some epidemiologists have pushed for properly formal methods for analysing the results of observational studies. The basic idea is to try to interpret them as if they were trials. I have a couple of papers on this in International J of Epi (I'm a philosopher of science, but my two co-authors are both eminent epidemiologists) and a couple of pure philosophy ones too. I criticise the approach, but also acknowledge its merits. I can point you to some excellent papers by advocates of the approach, too.


If you're serious about looking into this then a good place to start would be the December 2016 special issue of International Journal of Epidemiology, with papers by many major contributors to this ongoing debate.


I would also recommend you look at the work of Judea Pearl - he has a recent "popular" book called The Book of Why - where he tries to make his approach accessible to a broader audience. But it's frankly very difficult - he's an excellent mathematician, but not always easy to follow.


Another excellent person to look at is Nancy Cartwright, a philosopher of science who has written a great deal about this. She has a book with Hardie


Briefly to your question about successful obersvartional research - yes, definitely. For example, sudden infant death syndrome reduced massively when it was (eventually) agreed to alter the advice from front-sleeping to back-sleeping. It is important to distinguish areas. Nutritional epidemiology is in an absolute mess, in my view. It's just so hard to manage residual confounding. People who eat more veg also tend to earn more, have less stress, drink less, smoke less, etc. Similarly for things like exercise, meditation, religious practice... all the lifestyle things we would really like to know about. But there are other areas with much greater success, such as occupational epidemiology (e.g. asbestos). There's a history of epidemiology by Alfredo Morabia that may be of interest to you. Also take a look at the STROBE collaboration, which is an observational answer to the Cochrane collaboration.


This is far too long... happy to liaise further if you like, but perhaps we should take it off comment thread.

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Clarke Read
January 15th, 2019 at 9:07 pm

Thank you, Alex. Really appreciate you taking the time to put that together. I similarly appreciate your presentation of the space, which seems as well-reasoned as I could hope for.


I'll start digging into that stuff and get myself acquainted. I'll reach out directly once I've done a bit more homework of my own. You have at least brought me to the level of conscious incompetence, so I have some work to do.


Reading your points now, I think some of us with backgrounds specifically in nutrition and adjacent fields may be unjustifiably generalizing from what we've observed to the field of epidemiology more generally. I'm hopeful the positive examples, methods and discussions you've mentioned can illustrate the standard (quality & quantity) certain inferences require without throwing out any sort of evidence categorically. That could be a much more productive state than many of the discussions in nutritional epidemiology I've seen recently.


Thanks again.

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Alex Broadbent
January 16th, 2019 at 3:26 am

Not at all Clarke - you're welcome (and you're not incompetent!).


I did write an academic book on this and can reference several of my own pubs but hesitate to be accused of a profit motive. (If only people knew, though, how little money one can make from an academic book!)

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Colby Swartz
January 15th, 2019 at 2:14 pm
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M/24/6'/160


4 Rounds

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Jason Catarino
January 15th, 2019 at 1:52 pm
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I think Sevan's comment on the Greg Amundson podcast is appropriate here. Often, when people don't understand something their first reaction is to attack it. What we don't know or see (yet) is a more complete view of CrossFit's grander vision. We get a little bit more each day.


The conversations being had in these comments section are healthy and natural. Ultimately, it comes down to your Faith in CrossFit. For me personally, they have built up more than enough over the years that I believe it is a step in the right direction. Thank you, CrossFit. I am excited for the journey forward.


Muscle fatigue will certainly slow people down on these workouts and lower their intensity level. In some cases that is the intent, like this workout with 15 strict pull-ups becoming challenging for almost all athletes. If your strict pull-ups improve, so will your kipping/butterfly. If someone is looking for a conditioning burn on days like today, you can always pull a max effort 500m or 1000m row / bike / run.

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Ryan Doherty
January 15th, 2019 at 1:45 pm
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4 + 45 RX

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Stephen Dull
January 15th, 2019 at 12:55 pm
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I hung with this article for a while, but the conclusion was a little far reaching. There does have to be more evidence then just making an observation. There needs to be data, tests and other correlations.


I understand where he wanted to go with this article, but it didn't quite get there.

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Stephen Dull
January 15th, 2019 at 12:44 pm
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Great Article! This is an effective way to understand movements using science and engineering. Excellent!

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Greg Glassman
January 15th, 2019 at 12:41 pm
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All,


I edited Stanley Nasraway's post and I’m reposting it.


First I edited for a string of straight-up factual errors all of the same genus. Everywhere he falsely claims FHS demonstrated that X increases Y, claiming a causal relationship, instead of an increase in X was associated with an increase in Y, claiming only a correlation, I struck through red and then deleted.


Next, I edited for the Ad Hominem attacks. Stanley does a LOT of ducking. Some of it was spurious insult and ad hominem. All that shit I struckthrough yellow and then deleted.


You can’t come in here and use as presumptive evidence the very fault in logic that the author was pointing out and sandwich that crap with ad hominem attack and insult.


Look, everyone, at what’s left when you take away the crap? Still crap, but less of it. It turns out Stanley has absolutely nothing to contribute to the conversation. In, fact, Stanley/Mary are here only to stop the conversation. They won’t last long.


This is what an industry troll looks like:


STANLEY NASRAWAYJanuary 14th, 2019 at 6:16 pm


I wondered where he was going when he states "the study that has been most damaging to the health of the U.S. population". The FHS is an incredible longitudinal study that has enriched our knowledge and pointed organized medicine in many very important directions. Its findings include:


1970s

In women who are postmenopausal, risk of heart disease is increased, compared with women who are premenopausal.

1980s

No empirical evidence found to confirm the rumor that filtered cigarettes lower risk of heart disease as opposed to non-filters.

1990s

Elevated blood pressure can progress to heart failure. Framingham Risk Score is published, and correctly predicts 10-year risk of future coronary heart disease (CHD) events. At 40 years of age, the lifetime risk for CHD is 50% for men and 33% for women.

2000s (high normal blood pressure is called prehypertension in medicine; it is defined as a systolic pressure of 120—139 mm Hg and/or a diastolic pressure of 80—89 mm Hg). Lifetime risk of developing elevated blood pressure is 90%. Obesity is a risk factor for heart failure.


By pointing to smoking, hypertension, hyperlipidemia, it has had an astonishing impact on the reduced mortality we see today from heart disease and stroke. Statins, which decrease hyperlipidemia, have been proven by randomized controlled studies to decrease heart attacks and stroke, and to extend lifespan.

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Thomas Eichholzer
January 15th, 2019 at 12:36 pm
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I know I can't do pull-ups for 20 min straight. So here two beginner scales I did:


1: Last friday did Cindy, scaled with rest:

20 min AMRAP

5 pull-ups

10 push-ups

15 squats

2 min rest

= 7 rounds


2: Today I took the bitter and emasculating pill of scaling with progressions:

20 min AMRAP

15 horizontal pulls

30 elevated push-ups

45 supported squats

= 8 rounds, with NO break and NO rest

(all 3 supported on the same bar at belly-level, NO time lost due to move from one exercise to another)


With both workouts I'm really, really happy. I couldn't have done any more. To me this is more important than going all out in the first 10 min and then have to stop.

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Sean Wysocki
January 15th, 2019 at 12:31 pm
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5 + 59 Rx M/26/182#/5ft11in

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Mike Andridge
January 15th, 2019 at 11:57 am
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amrap 20 min

15 strict ring pull ups using a minor false grip(to help with muscle ups)

30 push ups

45 squats

3 rnds plus 15 pull ups/20 push ups

then worked on L-sits and back extentions--

m/48/175

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Claire Fiddian-Green
January 15th, 2019 at 11:49 am
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3 rounds + 15. For pull ups, scaled to 3 strict pronated pull ups attempts + 12 slow pull up negatives. Honest push ups, R1=17+13, R2=14+6+7+3. R3=14+8+8. Squats Rx. I got close to my first legit strict pronated pull up, but not quite there yet.

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Denis Szentkirályi
January 15th, 2019 at 11:35 am
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2 rounds and 25 reps

- banded pull ups

- beginner

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David Mitchell
January 15th, 2019 at 11:33 am
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Virtuosity: doing the common uncommonly well!

If you guys want to be better at anything, take it back to and master the fundamentals of the movement. Amazing things will happen!! Keep up the great work CrossFit!

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Nick Rohde
January 15th, 2019 at 11:29 am
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2 rounds in 9:48

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P W
January 15th, 2019 at 11:05 am
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4 rounds + 6 reps RX


M/44/6”5/#238

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Tj Cantu
January 15th, 2019 at 10:57 am
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3 rnds + 60 reps


I knew this was going to be a long 20 minutes for me so I tried breaking up the pull ups for (5x3) or (3x5) and then for the push ups I did (6x5) or (10x3) which helped me out a lot mentally...


I did banded pull ups and RX Push Ups!

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Malcolm Kendrick
January 15th, 2019 at 10:55 am
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Where Michael Eades and I will disagree, in degree, is that I believe correlation can prove causation, if the correlation is strong enough. I think it beyond reasonable doubt that smoking causing lung cancer. There have never been any controlled studies in this area - not will there ever be. However, if memory serves, smokers are seventeen times more likely to develop lung cancer than non-smokers. At this level of correlation we have effectively proven causation.


I have discussed this issue with many statisticians and epidemiologists. Some say that if risk is more than doubled, causation can be accepted. Others say you need the risk to be increased by 5 - 6 fold to accept causation. So, the rules are not hard and fast.


On the other hand if the risk is less than double, you can basically ignore any observational study. I don't think I have seen a single dietary study where risk gets anywhere near doubled. When it comes to cholesterol we are looking at 1.16, and suchlike. This would be laughable, were it not so serious.


For those who say that the statin trials have proven the cholesterol hypothesis, I would say, please review the data with an open mind. For example, evacetrapib (designed to raised HDL and lower LDL) lowered LDL 37%, raised HDL 120% and had no impact on CVD. The benefits of statins are almost certainly due to non-lipid effects.


If the Framingham Study had shown anywhere near a doubling of CVD risk with raised cholesterol it could be considered interesting, but it never did. The only finding that blew the doors of was that, if participants cholesterol levels fell during the first fourteen years of the study, the rate of CVD death increased dramatically during the next eighteen years.


'There is a direct association between falling cholesterol levels over the first fourteen years [of the study] and mortality over the following 18 years (11% overall and 14% CVD death rate increase per 1mg/dl per year drom on cholesterol levels). Journal of the American Medical Association, 24 April 1987, pages 2176 to 2180.'


If cholesterol fell 18%, the risk of death increased by 420% and the risk of CVD death by 546%. So, yes, the Framingham study can tell us some things.

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Alex Broadbent
January 16th, 2019 at 3:23 am

Agreed that correlation is causation, but it's important to dispel the idea that the risk must be doubled. This isn't scientific, it originates in a legal context, where corporates were trying to argue that unless RR > 2, causality was not proved and they could not be held liable. (I can give references to some cases if you're interested.) In fact, it's possible for relative risk to be any amount and for causation to be present. Even if an exposure raises risk by less than 2, it's still raising the risk. Heart-related risks are like this, INCLUDING those related to smoking. Thus smoking raises risk of lung cancer by an enormous amount (maybe 17 as you suggest, maybe more) but only raises risk of fatal heart disease by about 1.7. Yet smoking kills many more people via the heart disease route (so to speak) than by the smoking route, because lung cancer is a very rare disease even among smokers. So it's important not to discount exposures which elevate the risk by a relatively small amount - obviously it depends how large the risk is in the first place! I've written on this myself - both the legal uses of the RR > 2 test, and the importance of considering both absolute and relative risks - and so have some leading epidemiologists / biostatisticans, notably Sander Greenland.

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Katina Thornton
January 17th, 2019 at 9:49 pm

I loved reading your book "The Cholesterol Con." The humor that you invoke on a topic of such great importance was refreshing. I'm excited that your daughter is going to be a pbysician, and I hope that she keeps her father's torch for the truth lit.

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Stacey Thompkins
January 15th, 2019 at 10:44 am
Commented on: 190115

M/44/6'2"/185


Rx'd

4 rds + 2 pullups

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Jon Dickens
January 15th, 2019 at 9:29 am
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5rds + 30 reps @RX

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Jon Dickens
January 15th, 2019 at 3:57 pm

Just done a comparison to Cindy on Friday:

615 Reps regular Cindy

480 Reps Turbo Cindy!!!

Fairly interesting I thought!!

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Liang Kong
January 15th, 2019 at 9:19 am
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"Stick to the basics and when you feel you've mastered them, it's time to start all over again, begin a new, again with the basics, this time paying closer attention."


老爷子曾说过如果重写CrossFit的教案,他想要改变的其中一个元素就是多鼓励使用严格静力的引体向上而不是现在多为提倡的借力引体。我个人非常欣喜的看到新官网能够带入这些改变。


不会有太多人喜欢做严格引体。为什么?因为难,不擅长。但这正是通过CrossFit锤炼自己的价值。不断补齐弱点,方可为生活中不可预期的挑战做好准备。


“我们”(CrossFit)不取悦任何人。放出卫星信号后,天外来客自会来访。

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Js Smith
January 15th, 2019 at 4:10 pm

Well said, Liang! I agree, working on the weaknesses and resilience definitely helps to prepare for the unexpected in life. Thanks for the reminder. 😊

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Denis Kovalyov
January 15th, 2019 at 9:07 am
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i could only manage 5 rounds , is it bad?

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Jon Dickens
January 15th, 2019 at 9:29 am

Same here bud, felt ok to me

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Thomas Jones
January 15th, 2019 at 8:58 am
Commented on: 190115

I am learning to scale these wods to my current level, but would still like some help occasionally.

My only critique of the new format is it seems to have gone corporate over community, which is a shame.

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Christopher Rossi
January 15th, 2019 at 7:09 am
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4 RDS + 13 reps RX

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Joel Wuollet
January 15th, 2019 at 7:03 am
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Scaled

15 Honest Push ups

10 Ring Face Pulls

35 Air squats


4 Rounds +18 reps

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Michele Di Mascio
January 15th, 2019 at 6:34 am
Commented on: 190115

There have been pulls, push ups and squats in every block of 3 since the new year. Surely this will change going forward?

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Rajat Samanta
January 15th, 2019 at 6:26 am
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4 RDS + 27 reps!

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Jeffrey Cain
January 15th, 2019 at 5:27 am
Commented on: The Framingham Heart Study, Part 1: Cargo Cult Science

Dr. Eades presents an introduction to the Framingham study that explicates the difference between causation and correlation. He asserts that Framingham is an observational study, which limits its findings to the realm of correlation, not causation. Do you take issue with Dr. Eades’ central assertion? Are you asserting that causation can be proven through observational studies? It would be helpful if you engaged the argument instead of attacking the messenger, which is the least useful and lowliest form of comment, as you well know.

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Alex Broadbent
January 15th, 2019 at 6:11 pm

Hi Jeffrey - I did in fact engage the argument - and I didn't attack Dr Eades. Yes, observational research can provide evidence for causation. Smoking and lung cancer; exercise and reduction in obesity; crossfit and ...

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Alex Broadbent
January 16th, 2019 at 3:17 am

Ah sorry I see this reply wasn't addressed at me... I agree that ad hominem attacks are totally wrong

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Adam Redfield
January 15th, 2019 at 3:53 am
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5+13RX

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Jim Rix
January 15th, 2019 at 3:23 am
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Perhaps I missed it, but did Coach or HQ post something early in the year about the new (or should I say back to the future) philosophical approach to programming? Now I know Coach might say this is nothing new, which is true, but it is a return to origins, and away from a programming bias over the past 2-3 years. This programming is focused more on overall fitness and health (all 10 aspects of fitness) and less on power and strength. I find the new approach fascinating and refreshing, and think a paper might address all the comments. Now it might just say "go read 'What is Fitness?' again, but it'd still be useful.

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Js Smith
January 15th, 2019 at 4:00 pm

Jim IMO yes, the intent and opinions on scaling, self education, doing your homework and the .com direction have been cited by HQ/Coach Glassman. If not addressed individually, definitely if taken in concert. Please see comments from:

Lynne (with an -e) Pitts 190104

Coach Glassman 190105, 190106, and 190111

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Js Smith
January 15th, 2019 at 2:28 am
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Seems a bit unkind to take a gift then criticize it’s not quite to your caliber. The way I see it, it’s their site and we’re invited guests. I don’t agree with all the HQs opinions but I take what speaks to me and leave the rest, all with gratitude.

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Jesse Ryholt
January 15th, 2019 at 2:39 am

There's nothing wrong with seeing understanding.

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Jesse Ryholt
January 15th, 2019 at 2:40 am

There's nothing wrong with seeking understanding...

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Ewlu Mcb
January 15th, 2019 at 8:08 am

Yes. From a brand (2015) that generates some $4 billion in annual revenue and CrossFit, Inc. Over $100 million (Forbes) from its affiliates and community. I agree there’s nothing wrong in some of the community seeking understanding.

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Mike Andridge
January 15th, 2019 at 11:55 am

@EWLU-I'm by no means an OG, but not a newbie either-but I think Coach and/or HQ gave explanations to those seeking understanding with every single thing written in the CrossFit Journal. Plus they provided this FREE content for everyone(before they were rolling in the money). CrossFit found me in 2012 and back then with every wod, they had an affiliate demo the wod--it was awesome. Now, I click on the mainsite, then scroll down and BOOM, there are exercise demos or I can go through about 10/12 years worth of wods, all at my fingertips. All it costs me is the price of my internet connection.

As an OG used to say (The Newbie Chronicles:)

Buckle up and enjoy the ride.

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Stanley Nasraway
January 15th, 2019 at 2:16 am
Commented on: The Framingham Heart Study, Part 1: Cargo Cult Science

I searched Dr. Eades and see that he and his wife have been tremendously financially prosperous at selling books and services on nutrition to the lay public. A PubMed search shows he has never published any research or scholarly article in a recognized medical journal. Knocking the status quo is self-serving and self-congratulatory, similar to celebrity pumpers like Drs. Oz or Mercola. I wondered where he was going when he states "the study that has been most damaging to the health of the U.S. population". The FHS is an incredible longitudinal study that has enriched our knowledge and pointed organized medicine in many very important directions. Its findings include:

1960s

Cigarette smoking increases risk of heart disease. Increased cholesterol and elevated blood pressure increase risk of heart disease. Exercise decreases risk of heart disease, and obesity increases it.

1970s

Elevated blood pressure increases risk of stroke. In women who are postmenopausal, risk of heart disease is increased, compared with women who are premenopausal. Psychosocial factors affect risk of heart disease.

1980s

High levels of HDL cholesterol reduce risk of heart disease. No empirical evidence found to confirm the rumor that filtered cigarettes lower risk of heart disease as opposed to non-filters.

1990s

Having an enlarged left ventricle of the heart (left ventricular hypertrophy) increases risk of stroke. Elevated blood pressure can progress to heart failure. Framingham Risk Score is published, and correctly predicts 10-year risk of future coronary heart disease (CHD) events. At 40 years of age, the lifetime risk for CHD is 50% for men and 33% for women.

2000s

So called "high normal blood pressure" increases risk of cardiovascular disease (high normal blood pressure is called prehypertension in medicine; it is defined as a systolic pressure of 120—139 mm Hg and/or a diastolic pressure of 80—89 mm Hg). Lifetime risk of developing elevated blood pressure is 90%. Obesity is a risk factor for heart failure.


By pointing to smoking, hypertension, hyperlipidemia, it has had an astonishing impact on the reduced mortality we see today from heart disease and stroke. Statins, which decrease hyperlipidemia, have been proven by randomized controlled studies to decrease heart attacks and stroke, and to extend lifespan.


I provide this post simply for balance and perspective, and to identify HYPE when we read it. Crossfit Health unfortunately doesn't provide the reader this perspective, or any characterization of the author, for that matter. That is an unfortunate oversight. It would be intriguing to know if CF recruited this 2 part piece from Dr. Eades, or if Dr. Eades contacted them and volunteered it. Just curious.

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Shakha Gillin
January 15th, 2019 at 4:57 am

Dr Eades makes great points about observation studies, correlation and causation.


I do not equate academia and journals with credibility. Unfortunately academia at medical societies have been hijacked by industry funding.


I don’t write papers, I don’t work at a university....but you know what I do....I save lives.


Dr Eades and Dr Eades are highly regarded physicians who I have the utmost for.


Looking forward to Part 2.

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Shakha Gillin
January 15th, 2019 at 4:58 am

Edit- Utmost respect for.

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Scott Gillin
January 15th, 2019 at 5:16 am

Hi Stanley I find it intersting that you attack Dr. Eades personally rather than addressing the topics in the article (ad hominem?). Do you believe that correlation is the same as causation? Do you believe that more than a hypothesis can be drawn from an observational study? These are very important points to understand about science and it is a disservice to the CrossFit community to try to undermine the credibility of a person you only know through a Google search.


I like that you want to challenge the information being published. It is a vital part of any healthy discussion to look at all points of view. For this to be beneficial the discussion should be focused on the science. Personal slander should have no place on this discussion board.

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Chris Meldrum
January 15th, 2019 at 2:07 am
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Dang, Coach really wants us to get our strict pull-ups down!

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Beth Pace
January 15th, 2019 at 3:07 am

No kidding! I’m pretty excited about increasing skill here.

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Chris Sinagoga
January 15th, 2019 at 1:27 am
Commented on: 190115

Champions Club Scaling Notes


STIMULUS: All right, here we go! Days like this make me both hate and love that I follow the main site. Hate because Mr. Carey is going to be like, “Chris, we have done pull-ups every single workout since the new year.” And love because Mr. Carey still can’t do a strict pull-up and needs the work. Unlike Cindy (even a strict Cindy for stud CrossFitters), this one seems designed to have muscle fatigue be a limiting factor. So if at all possible, I’d try to keep the pull-ups strict and push-ups honest. I’d just use “Ricky Reps.” First thought is AMRAP in 20 minutes of: max reps strict pull-up (or bar hang, or whatever, just use rings as last resort), max reps push-ups (slow descent), and 45 squats. Then modify based on if it just becomes 45 squats over and over; so you could do max sets of pull-ups in 3 sets, or max set of push-ups in 2 sets, etc. Even record highest and lowest totals to comments.


GROUP: Having enough room on the pull-up bar would probably be the only limiting factor here, so since it’s not as fast-paced as Cindy (and not a benchmark), it should be cool to have someone move to push-ups after squats then just to the bar when it’s clear. Or try stations: 30-sec strict pull-ups, 30-sec. push-ups, 1:00 squats. Group 1 = pull-up/push-up (switching spots after 30 seconds), Group 2 = squat, then rotate after the minute.


INJURY: If the shoulders or hips are down, I would look at something that would fatigue the midline. Hollow holds, sit-ups, tuck-ups, or v-ups could be good subs.


I’M SCALING THIS WELL IF: I feel a good mix of muscle fatigue and general conditioning/breathing heavy.


I’M SCALING THIS POORLY IF: I don’t do all 45 squats in a row. I honestly think high-rep air squats is a serious missing piece in every single sport I coach outside of CrossFit.


GENERAL FEAR LEVEL (1=REST DAY, 10=PR-DRIVEN FGB): 6. Not the pressure Cindy can put on you, (or even Chelsea), but sets of 45 squats are going to be fun for the legs.


GENERAL EMASCULATING LEVEL (1=WHO DOES RING HSPU ANYWAY?, 10=THIS TEENAGE GIRL IS DEADLIFTING MORE THAN ME): 4. Strict pull-ups and push-ups die out in everyone.

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Kury Akin
February 9th, 2019 at 2:31 pm

Thanks Chris. These are really useful and helping me to push myself. All the best.

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