June 4, 2013

Tuesday 130604

Rest Day


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Team Event 7, Southern California Regional.

"Three Days in Haiti, Part 1: Meet Julie Roberts" by Emily Beers, CrossFit Journal article [pdf]

Parents, Pot, and Prohibition: Daisy Bram's Story, by Paul Feine and Alex Manning.

Posted by Pukie at June 4, 2013 5:00 PM

How is that safe? She should have dumped. That is not intensity, but pure stupidity

Comment #1 - Posted by: Mike at June 3, 2013 5:28 PM

What medical issue does Daisy Bram have that requires her to grow 30 marijuana plants? Did they mention that?

Comment #2 - Posted by: RTC at June 3, 2013 5:39 PM

It's not always easy to dump in a squat clean, Mike. Especially if you fail at the bottom of the squat like it looks like.

Comment #3 - Posted by: JohnnyC at June 3, 2013 5:50 PM

better question than the two previous...why is chuck liddell into crossfit spotting now?

Comment #4 - Posted by: zboy at June 3, 2013 5:53 PM

#1... You mean he should have jumped. That's 225# on the bar.

Comment #5 - Posted by: Matt_P at June 3, 2013 5:53 PM

I think that couple deserved to have their children taken away solely for naming them Thor and Zeus.

Comment #6 - Posted by: Paul Brown Sr. at June 3, 2013 5:58 PM

@#7...don't forget invictus...the third son...invictus. *bang*bang*bang...

Comment #7 - Posted by: Noel at June 3, 2013 6:15 PM


Why do you assume that a video about the consequences of drug criminalization means CrossFit is leftist?

Drug legalization is fully consistent with support for individual rights and small government, is it not?

One who doesn't want the government interfering with his income or weapons should easily understand why one wouldn't want the government telling him what to smoke.

Comment #8 - Posted by: Russ Greene at June 3, 2013 6:16 PM

A million dollar bail for cultivation of a plant with so many amazing healing properties while child rapists walk free after a couple of months of jail. Our society has got everything so backwards from the way we exercise and eat to rediculous laws that put non violent drug users in prison.

Comment #9 - Posted by: jack m/31/5'11/165 at June 3, 2013 6:19 PM

It's all good, as long as you don't smoke within 25 feet of a Starbucks.

Comment #10 - Posted by: Kirk at June 3, 2013 7:11 PM

Wow! Somebody polish up the "Mother of the Year" award. Are we supposed to applaud this dizzy broad because she decided to start growing pot again after CPS took her children once? Way to prove your point.

She goes so far as to say "My kids hate me!" Well, they are not alone. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together hates you too. Perhaps the medicinal marijuana will help cure chronic selfishness. BTW...Why is this on CF.com?

Comment #11 - Posted by: CommonSense at June 3, 2013 7:32 PM

The article in question shouldn't even be an issue. Prohibition is immoral and un-Constitutional.

Comment #12 - Posted by: Nick at June 3, 2013 8:02 PM

yea for rest day articles!

Comment #13 - Posted by: jeff - 6/205/41 at June 3, 2013 8:11 PM

Is the chick in that picture OK?

Comment #14 - Posted by: aemory at June 3, 2013 8:27 PM

Marijuana prohibition is a failed policy that has resulted in increased crime and a massive financial burden for all levels of government. Legalize it!

Comment #15 - Posted by: Steve at June 3, 2013 8:32 PM

I'm glad they took her kids away. She doesn't deserve to be a parent. Why is this on CF website? Is this poor excuse of a human supposed to somehow make CFers perform better? I hope she never gets her kids back.

Comment #16 - Posted by: AntFarm at June 3, 2013 8:40 PM


Why does this woman not deserve to be a parent?

Comment #17 - Posted by: Nick at June 3, 2013 9:07 PM

AntFarm and everyone else with dreadful posts and ideas about a mother, her children, and her use and cultivation of cannibus; you are probably a sociopath. Anyone who is against hemp/marijuana products and the good they can do for health, economics, industry, even liberty and freedom for that matter. Is against the majority. Good luck. Your mission is failing and your mind is full of anger caused by fear and ignorance. I hope you don't procreate your ideals.

Comment #18 - Posted by: Thriller at June 3, 2013 9:13 PM

Wow. So disapointed. The only story to post on crossfit from my hometown. The best view of this dirty, crime infested town is from I-5.

Comment #19 - Posted by: Ann Emery at June 3, 2013 9:35 PM

I just can't bring myself to feel sympathy for this couple.
They choose to smoke/grow pot over their children.
Whether pot should be legal is a reasonable topic of discussion, but it's not currently. They knew this and especially the second time around they knew the result of their actions.
Maybe the law should change, but it isn't yet. It's just sad when people prioritize their drugs over their children.

I do feel sorry for the guys on his knees in the photo because everyone keeps calling him a girl!

Comment #20 - Posted by: Shawn at June 3, 2013 9:42 PM

Well said Shawn. My politics on marijuana laws, legalize it. My opinion of the actions of these two parents, especially after the ordeal they went through the first time around, POOR judgement and parenting. Side note: had to be said, that is one fine set of woman haunches preparing to clean that bar, nothing sexier than a set of crossfit thighs and glutes on a fine specimen such as this.

Comment #21 - Posted by: jsp at June 3, 2013 9:57 PM

The person on their knees in the picture is a MAN, during TEAM events.

Comment #22 - Posted by: Graham at June 3, 2013 10:48 PM

Well, we can't see how the person actually got into the position but male or female they should have probably dumped by the point the picture was taken. Anybody know what happened after this? Did he end up being responsible and dumping or trying to stand back up under that weight? Wasn't there an article a few days back saying how CrossFit (tm) could be bad when people trade intensity for common sense and a bunch of the knuckleheads here got all bent out of shape about it? Keep going like this and soon we'll have a daily pic of a compound leg fracture like the guy in the basketball playoffs.

Let's all remember to train and compete smart everybody.

Comment #23 - Posted by: Brhino at June 4, 2013 12:31 AM

Regardless of any political views, the woman broke the law...period. Did she really have the intent to sell? Who knows? She was allowed to have 12 plants, she had 50. Do I agree with her kids being taken? probably not, but after the first time, get your head straight, lady. Irresponsible parent in my opinion. The only reason this case is getting any exposure is because of the marijuana issue. If the child was taken from the parent for some other "harmless" yet illegal act, we would hear nothing about it. For the record, I don't now, nor have I ever smoked marijuana and don't plan to but I don't care if other people do, other than the fact that in most states, it is illegal.

Comment #24 - Posted by: Bill at June 4, 2013 3:45 AM

How many times do you have to have your kids taken away by CPS before you stop growing pot?

The law is a real bitch, ain't it?

Comment #25 - Posted by: Dave at June 4, 2013 4:29 AM

Great video, and it's especially timely here in Ohio, where medical marijuana will likely be voted on soon. It reveals problems on both sides of the medical marijuana issue:

1) Overzealous law enforcement, tearing apart families over marijuana, when serious drugs like heroin or meth should and can be targeted instead. If you've ever lost someone to these drugs, you probably realize the difference between them and marijuana is like night and day. For that matter, alcohol is a socially acceptable (and sometimes deadly) drug that anyone 21 and up can purchase at the corner gas station.

2) I will preface the following by pointing out that the video never mentions the medical condition for which she was prescribed marijuana... we don't know if it was for a serious condition, such as cancer, or something like "insomnia." That said - the couple in the video knew they were taking a chance with their children (and freedom) to start growing a second time, and decided that medical marijuana is worth the risk. I felt bad for them the first time, but found it difficult to sympathize when their back-room operation was discovered in their new home.

The biggest danger the couple posed to those children was possible ridicule for being named them Thor, Zeus, and Invictus.

Comment #26 - Posted by: Joe Northside m/34/70"/200 at June 4, 2013 4:41 AM


0:00 Pr

Comment #27 - Posted by: D Weston at June 4, 2013 7:14 AM

opinions aside, how about posting some times for this workout??

Comment #28 - Posted by: RickW at June 4, 2013 7:58 AM

Awful form. A crossfitter at a regional level, should be able to clean 225 with no problem, specially during team events. Also, at this level, he should be able to bail safely if needed.

Comment #29 - Posted by: The upsetter at June 4, 2013 8:19 AM


"I believe CrossFit HQ is slightly to the left of Chairman Mao when it comes to politics."

Quite possibly the funniest Rest Day post in the history of CrossFit.

Comment #30 - Posted by: bingo at June 4, 2013 8:37 AM

What happen to personal responsibility?

You have two stories motherhood.

One decides that she will do everything she can to be a great mom and citizen. The other decides to break the law and is now crying about it.

Whether you agree with medical marijuana use or not, you're an adult, you made the decision (twice), you live with the consequences. "Poor me." There is no injustice here, Daisy broke federal law twice! She should own up to her faults.

I posted once after my level 1 course four years ago. This is my second post.

Comment #31 - Posted by: Alex at June 4, 2013 8:38 AM

I think the guy on the ground in the pic has his feet set a bit too wide for that lift....and maybe his elbows are a touch too close....or maybe I'm doing it wrong. We've all been there (or close to it) if you've ever tried to push past a point you know you'll fail at, so give the guy some slack for trying.
But then again, maybe his chin isn't far enough forward......

Comment #32 - Posted by: pittrugbyguy at June 4, 2013 9:00 AM

M/U Event 7:

9:09 at 155

Comment #33 - Posted by: james.patrick [M/51/66"/135] at June 4, 2013 10:07 AM

I see nobody is really winning this argument, like usual...
Rest day? I think not...

"Dawn" 56:58

(hint, hint... you guys don't have this name in the "Girls" section AND this one was a bitch)

3 mins Versaclimber (Row or bike subs could work, avg 20 cals)
30 power cleans 45# (recouping from shoulder injury but used to be 80#)
3 mins climber
30 back squat 65#
3 mins climber
30 body row pushups 15# dumbbells
3 mins climber
30 box jumps (mid-thigh, dk height, stacked 6 45# and 1 25# rubberized weight plates)
3 mins climber
30 incline situps
3 mins climber
30 K2E
3 mins climber
300m Farmer Carry 40/45# KBs
3 mins climber
30 back extns w/25# dumbbell

F/46/5'4"/147 (BAM.)

Comment #34 - Posted by: Dawn at June 4, 2013 10:17 AM

@29, Great idea, Rick!

Comment #35 - Posted by: Dawn at June 4, 2013 10:21 AM

Can someone explain to me how posting this picture does not promote poor practices that can lead to injury?

Comment #36 - Posted by: John Heaney at June 4, 2013 10:23 AM

How could the poor guy concentrate?

Comment #37 - Posted by: mikeyb m/52/182 at June 4, 2013 10:31 AM

Great posts today! I love the banter.

Comment #38 - Posted by: drw at June 4, 2013 10:31 AM

2013 CrossFit Games Regional Event 7
Four rounds for time of:
15 foot Rope climb, 2 ascents - sub'd 10 towel pullups for each ascent
100 foot Sprint
135 pound Squat clean, 4 reps - sub'd 155 pounds
100 foot Sprint


Comment #39 - Posted by: murphinator - M/5'10"/185/39 at June 4, 2013 10:34 AM

Made up WOD 130603-Monday (yesterday) - comments there.

Comment #40 - Posted by: fargingbastige (M/46/6'0"/195) at June 4, 2013 10:37 AM

I dont see how a story about pot smoking makes it onto the main page of CrossFit. Oh and I agree with comment #37! I believe that was the real reason they posted the photo.

Comment #41 - Posted by: JasonR at June 4, 2013 10:43 AM

LOL, bingo

Comment #42 - Posted by: jeff - 6/205/41 at June 4, 2013 10:48 AM

@mikeyb I agree, those are the shortest shorts I've ever seen

Comment #43 - Posted by: jack m/31/5'11/165 at June 4, 2013 11:00 AM

(Ok, this may appear as a repeat b/c the previous one is not posting.)
Looks like no one is winning this argument, like usual...
Rest day, I think not...

"Dawn" 56:58
(hint, maybe add to the Girls? b/c it was a bitch...)
3 mins Versaclimber (or row or bike, approx. 20 cals)
30 power cleans 45# (recouping from shoulder injury & used to be 80#)
3 mins climber
30 back squats 65#
3 mins climber
30 body row pushups w/15# dumbbells
3 mins climber
30 box jumps (dk height, 4 45# rubberized weight plates +1 25# plate)
3 mins climber
30 incline situps
3 mins climber
30 K2E
3 mins climber
300M Farmers Carry 40/45# KBs
3 mins climber
30 Back Extns +25# dumbbell weight

46/F/5'4"/147 (BAM.)

Comment #44 - Posted by: Dawn at June 4, 2013 11:00 AM

I thought CrossFit was about community and family. 2 inappropriate pics in 2 weeks and now politics. Once again disappointed and really contemplating not affiliating because of it. Love CrossFit! HATE what it is becoming!

Comment #45 - Posted by: Eric at June 4, 2013 12:16 PM

Are they just citizens? Do they work, pay taxes, volunteer, act as morally and ethically citizens should. Then what the hell is wrong with growing it or smoking it? For one, it's much less devastaing than alcohol and alcohol rule this country!!! I think everyone should mind their own business and work on their own issues....

Comment #46 - Posted by: todd at June 4, 2013 12:30 PM

I'm so disappointed that the only thing ever to be mentioned here about my hometown has nothing to do with crossfit. Not only is it completely irrelevant to crossfit, it projects our town and nor cal in general to be a safe haven for uneducated, irresponsible,idiots. We have great people pushing themselves daily to promote health and well being in our community but nothing like that is ever promoted to mainstream media.The only attention we ever get is negative, thanks to liberal agendas trying to paint a picture of poor people being used by a system when the individuals in the story signed themselves up to fail.

Comment #47 - Posted by: theron h at June 4, 2013 1:51 PM

As others have said, weather or not pot should be legal is a separate issue. They both chose the "desire" for marijuana to be legal over raising their children in a safe healthy home. I do not know why this surprises me. They chose to move from one state to another not to make a better life for their kids but to be in a place that has lighter rules against marijuana. If they are guilty or not is for the courts to decide, but one thing is for sure. They chose to put their children through this when they chose to grow, especially a second time.

Comment #48 - Posted by: Dan at June 4, 2013 3:45 PM

I can't believe no one has commented on the faces of the team members in the background of the featured picture. Unimpressed is an understatement!

Should've started a caption competition

Comment #49 - Posted by: suds at June 4, 2013 3:54 PM

Oh Eric (#46) please don't affiliate. You're right. If you don't like it now, you will hate it when we don't change everything for your tastes. You're much better off finding the community in which you feel comfortable. Good luck.

Comment #50 - Posted by: Lisbeth at June 4, 2013 4:15 PM

"One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."

"There are just laws and there are unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that an unjust law is no law at all... One who breaks an unjust law must do it openly, lovingly...I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and willingly accepts the penalty by staying in jail to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the very highest respect for law."

-Dr. MLK Jr. "Letter from a Birmingham Jail" 1963

Comment #51 - Posted by: R.I.P. Milton Friedman at June 4, 2013 4:23 PM

#37 John, I don't see how this pic promotes poor practices. I can't see anyone thinking "so THAT'S how a clean, or squat, or TGU should be done!" What the pic shows is the intensity and drive these competitors have. Should he have dumped earlier? Sure. But so what. He's there, giving his all to his team. That's the message.

#46/Eric (and others), HQ frequently brings politics onto the page, esp. on rest days. I sometimes do, frequently don't agree w/ what's posted, but that's sorta the point--to generate discussion within the CF community/family. The beauty is that no one need read the articles at all, esp. on rest days, if one is so bothered by the topic.

Comment #52 - Posted by: Jim R./50/5'8"/160 at June 4, 2013 4:28 PM

My issue isn't with smoking or even growing marijuana. I personally could not care less what done one does to themselves. My issue is this parent knew it was illegal yet chose to break the law twice. She didn't learn from her first mistake in an attempt to keep her children like a mature adult would. Instead she decided to move to another county and try again which cost her her third child. So now I guess she's childless so I don't care what she does now.

Comment #53 - Posted by: AntFarm at June 4, 2013 4:47 PM

my main concern from these comments is that half these people think that's a girl.


My 2nd main concern is the people who think that cleaning until you are literally unable to bail on a missed lift and fall in a position that is likely to cause permanent damage to his knees is somehow admirable.

again. wow.

Comment #54 - Posted by: Nick at June 4, 2013 6:27 PM

Who's a better parent...
Someone who hits the bar as soon as they get done work, hammers down as many drinks as they can in an hour, swirves home, misses dinner with the family, has a couple more cocktails home, passes out early, oversleeps and shows up late to work to find out they are victim to a random drug test. They come up clean and get to keep his or her job?
Someone who packs a bowl when they get home from work, helps their spouse prepare dinner/clean up, is coherent and pleasant, helps the kids with their homework, goes to bed, wakes up in the morning feeling fresh, gets to work 10 minutes early ready to work, only to be piss tested when they arrive?

Comment #55 - Posted by: Billy G at June 4, 2013 6:53 PM

#56/Billy G-
I would say neither of those things are good. The first one is clearly alcohol abuse, and the second one is generally illegal, and if the parent is working at a place that drug tests, they probably shouldn't be smoking pot. If you work at a place that doesn't drug test and want to smoke and it is legal, more power to you. But if you lose your income because you engage in an illegal activity, that still makes you irresponsible.

Comment #56 - Posted by: D at June 4, 2013 8:21 PM

A few questions arose after I watched Daisy's story, some of which have already been mentioned: What is her medical condition that necessitates her smoking pot, and does she have other treatment options? For places where medicinal marijuana is legalized, are individuals allowed to grow their own plants and if so how many plants are they allowed to possess (is 30 plants excessive)? $1mil bond for the father's bail seems rediculously high and makes me think there's something else going on. I just feel there's more to this story than we're being told.

That letter from MLK Jr. (RIP Milton #52) brings up some interesting points:
-"one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws"
-"an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and willingly accepts the penalty by staying in jail to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the very highest respect for law."

In general I agree with these statements, but it certainly requires some serious thought into what one is willing to sacrifice in order to satisfy one's "moral responsibility." Perhaps Daisy's story will contribute towards legislative changes, or perhaps not. But is that slim possibility for catalyzing change worth being a martyr for? Is this issue in general worth losing your kids for? As a father myself I say hell no. I feel for Daisy and especially her kids but I think she's got to sit back and prioritize her life a little better. If I was single, without dependants, and smoked pot I'd probably think differently, but right now I'd do anything and everything I could to keep my family intact. Maybe I'd be a moral crusader for a different cause, but not this one. Just my opinion.

Always good to exercise the mind with a little healthy debate.

Comment #57 - Posted by: CAP at June 4, 2013 9:47 PM

Billy G, your logic is so ridiculous. Here is the second person you just described. Wfs http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/04/justice/new-york-pot-mom-arrest/index.html

It comes down to priorities. She clearly chose marijuana over her children the second time she broke the law. It doesn't matter whether you agree with the law or not. No one can argue that she didn't know the consequences. She clearly loves marijuana more than her children.

Comment #58 - Posted by: Ute at June 4, 2013 9:56 PM


5K: 29:17

Comment #59 - Posted by: mom to five at June 5, 2013 3:11 AM

#57 CAP

I don't think it is worth losing ones children for. As a parent the #1 responsibility is to ensure you are doing everything you can to afford your children a better life: To protect, to guide, to set an example etc... However I believe that opposing, what I view as, an infringement upon my liberties is part of that job as a parent. If I am going to teach my children that authoritarian government and any act to limit freedom is wrong, then I am obligated to oppose that law.

I'm not willing to go to jail over pot, mainly because I don't smoke pot, but I will continue to be vehemently opposed to marijuana being illegal.

It is impossible for government to legislate morality without infringing upon rights. Morality is a singular subjective matter, therefore any attempt to create a singular morality will necessarily be limiting freedoms for a large number of people.

Comment #60 - Posted by: R.I.P. Milton Friedman at June 5, 2013 4:38 AM

What does pot have to do with Crossfit? I was expecting a comeback story, but instead got a story on an idiot who first named her children ridiculous names, and second was arrested for the same crime twice. Am I supposed to feel sorry for her? I don't!

Comment #61 - Posted by: Daniel at June 5, 2013 4:56 AM

Maybe he is in the middle of bailing. I have been driven straight into the the ground by more than one snatch before I could dump it. Photog might have caught him in the act.

Comment #62 - Posted by: Rossco at June 5, 2013 5:02 AM

#53 Jim,

You pretty much made my point. CrossFit posted a pic of a games competitor "giving all for his team". Taking into account the general attitude of CrossFit, I believe the message to be: "this is what it takes to be a serious competitor".

CrossFit, at one time, was a training program. Something that was supposed to facilitate achievement and enjoyment in other parts of someone's life. Now everything focuses on competition. Instead of mastering movements in the name of efficiency the message is just push through anyway possible.

Btw this isn't the first time CrossFit has posted (in my opinion endorsed) this type of thing. http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/007706.html

Comment #63 - Posted by: John Heaney at June 5, 2013 5:08 AM

1. @bingo - you're right on the money
2. I miss all these great articles. The main site hasn't been the same since they started limiting them over a year a ago.
3. Legalize it! It's unjust to allow one narcotic (alcohol or cigarettes) and ban another. Take some personal responsibility and teach your family the right thing and you won't have to worry if they'll turn into a junkie.
4. No one ever said his site was family safe. Again, take responsibility for your family and guide hem through life. Don't hope and pray that someone else will apply the appropriate filters for your kids to view the world. Also, use these moments to teach your kids about other lifestyles and what your principles are.

Comment #64 - Posted by: Jeremy at June 5, 2013 5:11 AM

8 rds + 250 meter row, 23 push ups


arms fired. need recharge.

Comment #65 - Posted by: Mazz at June 5, 2013 8:46 AM

Ahhh, small that? You smell that!?
That's.... rest day "politics."

I get a kick out of all of the angst over the non-fitness stuff here. As if someone was hurt by the posting of a video they don't have to watch - and then taking the time to complain about it on the free website. Talk about authoritarian: "How DARE you post a video [on this free website] - [in a (relatively) open society] - [that is already publicly available elsewhere] - on rest day!!"

As to the substance: I had a couple of reactions. First, like most people, I have a huge problem when the government comes in and takes someone's kids under the parens patriae doctrine. The lawyer in me reacted by thinking procedurally: why in the criminal law are you presumed innocent until proven beyond a reasonable doubt, but in the CPS context, presumed guilty by the mere presence of weed in your house? i.e. How is she presumed unfit and the children "endangered" - and immediately taken when there has been no hearing, no evidence presented, no due process, and no legal procedure at all? Does no one else find that at all troubling?

What happens when it's your kid and it's not weed? Let's say it's an allegation by a neighbor you've previously had a boundary dispute with? Who decides when the police come in and snatch your kids? I see nothing that protects ANY parent from that, nor any real oversight that protects from an abusive or overzealous law enforcement department. Anyone else have any insight?

Second, I had a hard time empathizing the second go-round (like most people). HOWEVER, did it feel to anyone else like she was targeted the second time? I'm having a hard time imagining it was a co-inky-dink when they show up the second time.

All in all, I'm with mamma on this one. The thought of cops coming into my house to take my children over my opposition, particularly over something like this or analogous, is offensive to my freedom-loving, American sensibilities.

Comment #66 - Posted by: Dale_Saran at June 5, 2013 9:28 AM

Come on, if you have script it makes it legal.
Is the article suggesting the police are arbitrarily arresting people for legal scripts? That is not happening. This is 2013, there are lawyers on every corner just waiting for police, district attorney's who prosecute these casese to abuse power or falsely arrest someone.
Additionally making marijuana legal does not change the real problem which is crime linked to drug abuse. People who smoke pot all day steal, burglarize, rob innocent people for the MONEY to buy it. Peole who smoke pot all day do not work. Everyday people are not in jail for possessing small amounts of marijuana for personal use. There is a liberal agenda to project that innocent people, like these people in the article, are victims.

Comment #67 - Posted by: the todd at June 5, 2013 11:51 AM

#68 the todd

Did you just watch Reefer Madness?

"Additionally making marijuana legal does not change the real problem which is crime linked to drug abuse. People who smoke pot all day steal, burglarize, rob innocent people for the MONEY to buy it. Peole who smoke pot all day do not work."

Hmm well let me see where to start. Well people who smoke pot all day do in fact work in a lot of instances. For example my mother, I do not condone her behavior, is a CPA/controller at a publicly-held company, and she smokes pot all the time. She has also raised four children that have so far gone onto receive 7 degrees(4 B.s.'s 2 M.A.'s and a Ph.d, will be more once I finish my graduate schooling). She may be less productive than she otherwise would be, but she doesn't burglarize, steal, or rob as you so naively and presumptuously suggested. I would characterize her as a productive member of society.

I think there is a problem with smoking weed in excess everyday; just as I think there is a problem with drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes, or taking prescription drugs everyday.
However I am not so pretentious as to think that I should be able to determine what other people do with their own lives.

Comment #68 - Posted by: R.I.P. Milton Friedman at June 5, 2013 3:55 PM

that's all great but who is it? in the tight shorts?

Comment #69 - Posted by: andrew at June 6, 2013 7:51 AM

Bottom line......its against the law. Sheriff's departments don't raid houses just for fun. A judge had to sign a warrant that contained enough probable cause to believe that a crime was committed. Cps don't take kids away for bs reasons. Open your eyes. This is why our country is taking a giant crap.....

Comment #70 - Posted by: Josh at June 10, 2013 11:39 PM

Comment #70 - Posted by: R.I.P. Milton Friedman

Uncle Milty,

That is so ridiculous that it has to be true. A publicly held business that lets their employee smoke pot all day. Love it.

Comment #71 - Posted by: the todd at June 14, 2013 10:34 AM
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