Re: "Watching a Green Fiction Unravel"

Excellent article although a little light on references and citations . . . But the important thing is that as time goes by more and more evidence comes to light exposing the fraud of Global Warming as well as enormous wealth being generated by its greatest proponents--e.g. Al Gore (who, by the way, has made hundreds of millions of dollars by pushing Global Warming!!)

A personal favorite of mine is the novel "State of Fear" by Micheal Crichton. A truly brilliant man and author . . .

Love the photo!

Re: "Watching a Green Fiction Unravel"

When an editorial, pertaining to issues of science, is quoting journalists I would say that 'light' on references and citations is an understatement.

As it is an editorial and simply an opinion, to which everyone is entitled, it is simply entertaining.
But to assign any value to this editorial, in the context of adding to the climate debate, is downright laughable.

Thanks for putting two comedy pieces up for our perusal today HQ!

Tim took the words right out of my mouth. Why does crossfit post this?

Leave your political BS at the door and work out.

Global warming is not a political issue, to the extent that there is no serious debate in the peer-reviewed literature about the cause of global warming - CO2. Yet the "skeptics" persist. They keep averring "they say it's man-made global warming ... to make money off it!" I'm not sure what is more frightening, the warming itself or the fervent deniers . . . .

Global warming is a load of crap. It's all about getting world-wide emission controls. More money for automakers, more money and useless jobs for pencil pushers, regulation agencies and stat spinners. Climate change is natural breathing of Mother Earth. I suppose filters will be suggested to cover volcanos.

its hotter. that is all I have to say.

Great compilation of pictures. That one from Costa Rica is nuts!

"Great choice on the Beethoven. Next: GIVE US MAHLER!"

Comment #7 - Posted by: stephen at September 2, 2011 6:43 PM
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Guess somebody heard me! THANK YOU!

Crossfit (much like LaFonda) "is the best thing that ever happened to me."

I love this lecture!! Thank you, Coach.

Dr. Alley is the Evan Pugh Professor of Geosciences at the Pennsylvania State University, and one of the most respected and widely published world experts on climate change. Here is a lecture he gave as keynote speaker at the American Geophysicists meeting in San Francisco on December of 2009. If you want to understand why scientists are so certain of the link between CO2 and Earth's climate, this is a must-see lecture:

http://www.agu.org/meetings/fm09/lectures/lecture_videos/A23A.shtml

For the record, I'm an active duty Marine rockin out that L sit in front of the coasty....ummm...frigate?

AHHHHHHH!!!! ON THE MAINPAGE!!! HAHAHAHA YEAHHH!!

the daytona beach, fl picture... this was at the end of the 2010 Daytona ragnar relay... 202 miles and our team took first in our division!!

What's up with the political stuff on the mainpage? Can't we just stick to Crossfit?

Mahler 2 is one of my favorite symphonies of all time

The Weather and Globe is constantly varied

I love CrossFit, but the steady drumbeat of political posts on the main site make it hard to stomach.

Hey, Coach, God bless you, but we're here to work out, not get lectured about global warming conspiracies, why Ayn Rand is a genius, why the poor deserve their fate, etc.

Ever had Thanksgiving with the family? No politics or religion at the table, please. Same should go for the CrossFit family.

One man's two cents.

M/26/5'7"/138

Subbed:
"The Seven"

Seven rounds for time of:
7 Handstand push-ups
135 pound Thruster, 7 reps
7 Knees to elbows
245 pound Deadlift, 7 reps
7 Burpees
7 Kettlebell swings, 2 pood
7 Pull-ups

Subs:
105# Thruster
215# DL
2x35# DB Swings (no KBs)

Time: 27:03

Posting horrifically slanted and misleading links to articles on the Crossfit main site screams of ignorance and a decidedly unscientific and closed mindset thus setting a standard far below the open source, "come-one come-all just prove your methods with real results" culture of Crossfit.

A better link to the article on Cosmic Ray cloud seeding would have been a link to the WSJ article which clearly describes the experiment in which I will summarize here.

The posted link would have the reader believe that studies were done that conclusively proved cosmic rays effect global climate change. However that isn't true. The tests were performed in a laboratory with an artifiical atmosphere. Many assumptions as to the basic initial conditions had to be made just to setup the experiment, and it is clear form the WSJ article that this experiment was simply meant as a proof of concept. Namely, the researchers wanted to prove if cosmic rays could promote cloud formation, and the results appear to point to that. However, no direct cause and effect was studied in this experiment as to determine the amount of influence cosmic rays have on cloud formation and surface temperatures in our actual atmosphere. In our real atmosphere, little is known as to the influence cosmic rays have on affecting cloud formation. Obviously there is now an established link, but does it contribute 1% to cloud formation or 100%? Also how does this cloud formation correlate to climate change if at all? The research doesn't even speculate. In the spirit of rigorous scientific research, this relationship needs to be mapped out.

Also it should be noted that both the theorist who came up with the cosmic ray cloud formation theory and the researcher who proved the theory at CERN both believe that human activity contributes to global climate change.

Simple initial condition assumptions entered into the differential equations that form the models of climate change can cause the solutions to converge on diametrically opposed solutions. Anyone who has taken DE in college can appreciate this mathematical dichotomy. Identical experiments run by different researchers, covering the similar times with different initial condition assumptionscan and have produced opposite results.

Therefore, I feel it is really impossible for the average armchair scientist to weigh in on this matter without having studied in detail the research, the methods and the conclusions of the key tests on climate change.

From this link it is clear to see how many people would be fooled into thinking they knew the precise results of this experiment or even what the experiment was really designed to measure by following this link.

Crossfit I recommend stay away from the global climate change debate. Crossfit luminaries have no expertise there. Crossfitters with expertise however, please weigh in. Others, with merely just an opinion, should stay out of it however. This debate is not over. It has just begun. Let's leave it to the men with the actual knowledge, not just tidbit of something they read in a biased web article to debate this point.

CrossFit Anniversary! 7 Sep 2003 was the introduction of the Benchmark WOD concept and 1st 6 "Girl" WODS: Angie, Barbara, Chelsea, Diane, Elizabeth, and Fran

http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/000156.html

Is there a connection between CrossFit and global warming? Afterall temps have risen worldwide since the first glass of CF koolaid was poured. Are WOD's causing worldwide warming?

It's as valid a theory as any foisted off on the gullible by that con artist hypocrite Al Gore and his apologists.

@Andrew1 - loved "State of Fear" as well. It cut to the heart of the global warming movement. It's all about seizing power through fear not saving the planet.

8hrs+ RX'd

Still working out =p

Greetings,

Tetten Bert

This opinion piece is laughable science. Can we stop fitting in to the 'meat head' stereotype, stop posting opinions as fact and just lift stuff? This shouldn't be on the Crossfit homepage.

@Roland
If auto companies are going to be making more money off of stricter regulations then why are they fighting them so strongly?

While the editorial piece is kinda funny, it probably is a good idea to read the actual research. I am quickly overlooking it now, and I don't see the smoking gun talked about in the opinion piece. http://cloud.web.cern.ch/cloud/

While I am not an environmental scientist, I am a political scientist. It does not surprise me that people find their opinions confirmed by 'new' evidence and not challenged. The quotes pulled out for the opinion piece are all invested skeptics and not reliable sources. They did not rethink their ideas in light of the scientific findings.

The problem with drawing conclusions from this research project, however, and pulling them into the climate debate is that they are not directly relevant. The findings suggest that the sun influences climate change through cloud formation (not too surprising actually). It does not look at the role of human sources for climate change.

Let me put it this way: it can not disprove human sources for climate change because it does not study human sources for climate change. In addition, it can not prove human sources for climate change because it does not study human sources for climate change.

Just saying.

For those who claim that climate change scientists are getting rich, did you ever stop to notice where the strongest opposition to climate change comes from? The article is a perfect example - it's the financial sector! Don't you think the business class has a serious vested interest in maintaining the status quo of our manufacturing/retail sectors? Their investments are predicated on the existing economic framework, and large scale change threatens their bottom line. Last time I checked, the current economic structure was not exactly being kind to many Americans, so I am saddened to see so many people resisting a movement that could simultaneously improve their nation's environment and economy, for the benefit of everyone.

Wow, a video from Coach and an article by Coach B. in the Journal on the same day -- it doesn't get any better than that!

Anyone else awaiting their Level 1 written test results?

If you don't like the articles or posts....it's actually really simple, which I know is difficult for 90% of the general public to think logically, but just simply don't read them. End of story. It's a free site and can post whatever they want, if you want to do the workout, do it, if you don't want to read the article, don't do it. I'm a genius.

Anyone know who makes the shorts that Dusty Hyland was wearing during his "Meadows" wod demo? They look pretty cool.

I particularly liked the article about the sun, got quite a kick out of it

When there are hundreds of studies every year confirming the hypotheses related to anthropogenic climate change, one tentative piece of new information about cloud formation is insignificant. When an op-ed uses this very preliminary study to declare, "How long the Al Gores, James Hansens, Rolf-Dieter Heuers and other defenders of the indefensible can hang on to their fable isn't altogether clear," the editors are only revealing themselves to be demagogues.

To give you an idea of how far this CERN study is from proving that climate change is cloud-driven, read this analysis from RealClimate:

"We were clear in the 2006 post that establishing a significant GCR/cloud/climate link would require the following steps (given that we have known that ionisation plays a role in nucleation for decades). One would need to demonstrate:

… that increased nucleation gives rise to increased numbers of (much larger) cloud condensation nuclei (CCN)
… and that even in the presence of other CCN, ionisation changes can make a noticeable difference to total CCN
… and even if there were more CCN, you would need to show that this actually changed cloud properties significantly,
… and that given that change in cloud properties, you would need to show that it had a significant effect on radiative forcing.
Of course, to show that cosmic rays were actually responsible for some part of the recent warming, you would need to show that there was actually a decreasing trend in cosmic rays over recent decades – which is tricky, because there hasn’t been (see the figure)."

You can read the whole post here: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2011/08/the-cerncloud-results-are-surprisingly-interesting/

If you really want to read some frightening sh*t, just google the words "peak oil"

@ #28
I completely agree! A free site (providing a free service) with the ability to post whatever they like...and people complain. That doesn't even make sense to me. Perhaps if people have a problem with the articles posted they should turn off the internet, grab a piece of paper, a pencil and do their own programming.

Awesome picture, for some reason I am looking up flights to DR now.....

wow!!! the man in the center of pic is crazy! L sit up in a bridge, cool! who is the man?

Finally! USA is giving up on the climate change stupidity... How could have we believed in a politician (Al Gore) talking about science... No kids we are not going to be drowned by the ocean. And pretty funny article by the onion lol.

Here's the real problem with all the climate change debate: Every 10-20 years some scientists say the the oceans will dry up, the sky will burn, or we will see the next ice age unless we do what they say. Nothing is really done about it. Then 10-20 years later, another scientist says that the Earth only has 10-20 years left. I am not a scientist. I am a self respecting, reasonably intelligent, regular dude. I'm just not buyin' it.

Be honest. You guys that want someone to show you empirical evidence refuting man caused climate change would call anyone that presented it an idiot. You defend the idea with the same emotions with which someone defends their religion.

Gotta say the article on Global warming seems analogous to a Globo Gym Workout, lacking in intelligence, full of dogma, and limited in sophistication....Go deeper and heavier with political WODs.. the article didn't even disclose an author.

Ok, test results are in...and I passed, hooray!

Wow, denying man made climate change? Really CFHQ? Way to pick your (loosing) battles!

"My favorite planet is the sun!"
Will Farrell as Harry Carey on SNL.
That is about as good as it gets for global warming!

Do my birthday WOD! =) This is what CrossFit Salem is doing today to celebrate my birth. Or curse me...we will see after we are all done.

4 rounds for time:
28 power snatches 75/45
28 burpees
28 box jumps with extra squat 24/18
28 kettlebell swings 53/35
800m run

$Cashout$ 2800m run or row for time

No "Rest Day" today!

For time:
2 mi run
10,9,...2,1/1,2...10 push-ups w/50m swim between each set
Time: 49:07

@ Rich #30:
Those are wodgear shorts. I've got a pair of them. They are awesome shorts to wod in. They make some pretty cool t-shirts and socks as well. The website is wodgear.net

Comment #39 - Posted by: Elijah at September 7, 2011 10:39 AM

The word losing only has one O. Maybe you should work on changing the climate of your spelling abilities.

I kill me.

@ #30: Those are wodgear shorts. They are awesome. They've got some other pretty cool stuff.

Don't like the mainsite articles? Don't read 'em.

Don't like people complaining about the mainsite articles? Don't read 'em.

It works both ways.

Wow, so crossfit is d helping Rupert Murdoch's misinformation machine now? Shame:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/sep/01/australia-climate-scientists

46yom/6ft/188lbs

WOD 1
For time:
100 DL (225lbs).
Time: 11:46.

WOD 2
For time:
100 Squats (135lbs).
Time: 10:50.

WOD 3
For time:
100 PP (100lbs).
Time: 9:25.

I like the articles and other non workout stuff posted. I like the excellence in music stuff too. Wish they would do other genres as well. Keep it coming.

I am no expert on emissions leading to climate change; but I am an expert on detecting scams. There is something fishy here. An agenda that is not about emissions. Be wary.

Now real stuff...800 m run w #13 vest 2:49m. It was really hot too maybe u global warnings guys are right ha ha.

Hey, it's Sunshine hanging off the bridge!...the irony with today's GW link.

Nice looking "L" CS!

F/41/5'6"/145

5K: 28:04

A (among many) problem with humans is that even though they have proved that their home is not the center of the universe, they still think that everything revolves around them.

ATTN HUMANS: YOU ARE NOT THAT SPECIAL, CERTAINLY NOT SPECIAL ENOUGH TO CLAIM THAT CHANGES IN WEATHER PATTERNS ARE YOUR OWN DOING.

All you ego's out there, it's time to get over yourselves!

I find it kind of funny that anyone could think that global warming is a made up trick of scientist who are looking for research money. It must be the same scientist that believe in evolution just for the sake of selling more textbooks.

But I also find it kind of sad. Completely irrational people think they are rational and they consider rational people to be irrational.

Crossfit is all about evidence based performance. I challenge any global warming denier, evolution denier to apply that simple principle to the real world. See the world with a completely open mind. Don't just support a postion and then try to justify with any ridiculous observations you make.

In an interesting problem.

Very surprised to see a link to a climate change denial article on the cf mainsite. We all know that crossfit is a broad-based, general fitness program that benefits some of the world's gnarliest warriors and outdoorsmen. After all, it seems that there is a picture at least once a week that highlights one our fellow crossfitter's adventures in the UNSPOILED wilderness.

HQ has prided itself on an all natural, master-of-all-realms approach to life for quite a while now (see: Paleo/caveman lifestyle). It is very ironic that they now post something that denies that manmade chemicals are degrading the environment! If glutens, lectins, and glycemics are unnatural additives in our food, then isn't the CO2 that comes out of our factories, cars and planes an unnatural additive to the environment? C'mon, HQ. Use some logic.

IRONY ALERT - apparently global warming research in Antarctica is being curtailed because there is a shortage of icebreakers. The Swedish icebreaker the USA was leasing has been recalled to Sweden, because there is now to much ice in the Baltic Sea (warming causes more ice instead of melting it or something ;-);-);-). So the USA solution is for the USA to lease a Russian icebreaker, that will sail from the Arctic to the Antarctic to help with ice-breaking.

Details here ... http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/09/07/frozen-global-warming-research/

Don't be surprised - Coach's dad is a climate-change skeptic and "scientist." So expect more of this. And, in general, CF is strongly right-wing. I wonder if we can get a lecture or speech from Rick Perry about the fundamental flaws in evolution theory, and then maybe one from Ron Paul about the importance of a gold standard.

M/14
5 rounds

200m run
30 squats
20 anchored sit-ups
10 push-ups

20:20

F/7
5 rounds

200m run
20 squats
10 sit-ups
5 push-ups

9:31

F/4
5 rounds

run to curb & back(~75m)
20 squats
5 sit-ups
5 push-ups

7:46

@Comment 58 - "Coach's dad is a climate-change skeptic and 'scientist.' "

Heads-up Yikes!!! You are correct that Coach G's father is a SCIENTIST with a PhD. In fact he is an honest-to-gawd "rocket scientist"

@Comment 58 - "in general, CF is strongly right-wing"

Heads-up Yikes!!! CF is strongly libertarian (small L) in a way perhaps best spoken my River Tam in the Firefly movie "Serenity" shown in this clip ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehNW5ZpoK60 ... now go run off and obey the Fed's food pyramid (wasn't there a food pyramid consensus? oh wait now it's a food plate), climb the pyramid to your destiny of obesity & diabetes.

It's already been said, but I'll say it again. What does climate change and politics have to do with CrossFit? I come here to workout and enjoy learning more about CrossFit and fellow athletes, not read about peoples' opinion on climate change.

In case anyone read the climate change article linked above and wanted another perspective, here's a response:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201109080037

Note that unlike the Investors Business Daily article, this is written by an identified author, who quotes the scientists that actually wrote the study that purportedly "disproves" the accepted climate change theory.

I was very surprised after reading this article and then looking for a response to it with google. It seemed like all that came back were climate skeptics postings, which makes me a little more distrustful of the internet.

17:48..

And 20:48 to recover :-)

Here's an incovenient quote from CERN's website:(PhysOrg.com) -- Jasper Kirkby, a physicist at CERN & colleagues have built an experimental climate chamber to measure the impact of cosmic rays on aerosol creation to mimic the creation of clouds in Earth's atmosphere. So far,.... there appears to be some evidence of aerosol creation, but not enough to account for cloud formation, and thus there’s no evidence yet to show that cosmic rays have an impact on global temperatures.

nice:)heads off