February 15, 2011
"What It Takes to be a Leader: Part 1" with Greg Amundson by Again Faster Equipment, CrossFit Journal preview video [wmv] [mov]
"Scaling at CrossFit Verve" with Cherie Chan - video [wmv] [mov]
Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, Symphony No. 6.
George Sheehan - 1889: Each of us is an expert in the self.
"An Epidemic of Ignorance" by Michael Shermer, The Wall Street Journal.
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Posted by lauren at February 15, 2011 5:00 PM
great video CF Verve!....thanks for the scaling advice...gold!
That's my wife! just 9mo after the baby! I'm so proud of you, Love you!
Gregs lecture was fantastic. Aside from the GI bill the crossfit journal is the best return on an investment I have ever had. Thank you.
Great lecture by Greg Amundson!
In reference to scaling video- why is fran a different workout if its done more than 10min?
"Epidemic of Ignorance" pretty much sums up the Tea Party.
i missed the clean & jerk workout the other day so i did that one.
65kg max, i cleaned 70kg once but couldn't jerk it.
nice mary everett pic. how about a video of her husband doing a WOD demo!!
Look like there's one crossfitter who doesn't get demolished by the tire. Or does she predominately train with O-lifts and 400m sprints as well?
i missed the clean & jerk workout the other day so i did that one.
65kg max, i cleaned 70kg once but couldn't jerk it.
don't know why my post was done twice
Tuba #6 - Fran is supposed to be a sprint where you are trying to eliminate all rests or broken sets. Scaling it is needed to preserve that "no holds barred" type approach.
I did the following workout the other day. I'm not sure whether it's ever been on the mainsite, but it's a nice Fran-style adaptation:
95# Push Press
If it hasn't been on the mainsite, it'd be nice to see what others get on it.
Ben- We do a version of that at our box, but with reps of 21-18-15-12-9-6-3. It was absolutely horrible. Can't remember exact number, but it took me 14:?? with 95#. After the fact, our trainer told us that we were supposed to use 75#. Oops! He's real good about finding ways for us to push a little harder.
Great advice on scaling, Cherie!
I don't know what to say about the article link except this- I have seen a patient who was progressing totally great DESPITE the fact that he was born deaf with a cochlear defect, received a Tetanus vaccine because he scraped himself with on a rusty needle and has never spoken since and is full blown, non-funcionally autistic.
You can say what you want, and I have my own beliefs as to why it may develop, lots of which have to do with the western diet as an influence on the immune system, which any crossfitter that does a PALEO-type zone should understand, but you tell my patient that the vaccine didn't give her child autism.
Writers are good at writing, but rarely have any answers, its the scientists that do that, and for that reason I statistically believe in crossfit and a paleo lifestyle.
Great interview on scaling. Where-o-where can one obtain that Fail Tee-Shirt?
"An Epidemic of Ignorance" is a great article. Several well-controlled studies disprove any link between autism and vaccines, yet there is still an insistence by ignorant people that their child's autism is related. Vaccination rates are dropping because people think they are making educated "personal" decisions, when in fact they are putting the entire population at risk by choosing to forego vaccinations.
#16 - that is exactly the type of unscientific story-telling that spreads panic amongst the ignorant masses. So you pick and choose when to use statistics to support your argument?
Thank you for the inspiration Greg, awesome video!
Thank you for a greate inspiration to all of you that poest image video and interview :-)
In my opinion, the question of whether there's a causal link b/w certain vaccines and autism isn't as interesting as the question of whether it's appropriate for the state to mandate or even encourage people to get vaccinations. Determining whether a causal link exists is for scientists, doctors, researchers, epidemiologists, etc. They’re the ones who are best suited to gauge the effectiveness and conclusiveness of whatever studies are out there.
I read the WSJ article a month ago and wondered if its emphasis on the scientific method would catch the attention of the Crossfit HQ folks who are in charge of posting this stuff. It’s an interesting read. But as of this posting, the discussion on the boards is between only two people, and both are doctors (Doc and Doc D). Of course, that’s excellent. They’re well positioned to talk about the studies they’ve read and the anecdotes they’ve witnessed firsthand. The rest of us… Probably not.
But everyone should have an opinion on what legislation appears on the books. If parents are fearful that vaccinations lead to autism, even though their thinking is based on erroneous science, are they free to remove their child from a school’s seasonal or annual vaccination drive? What if that makes their child more susceptible to contagions and more likely to spread those contagions on? Doesn’t society have an interest in protecting against this very sort of thing? Then again, try telling that to a woman who’s convinced her son is now deaf because of a tetanus shot.
Just throwing these questions out there. I’m interested to see what people think….
I agree (mostly) with the article, but I'll give you another reason why people might (rightly) fear vaccines - do some research on how the military and some military contractors have used our troops for experiments over the years. It's been going on for a long, LOONNNGGG, time. I would encourage anyone to read the Senate Report 103-97 (1994) prepared by the staff of the Committee on Veteran's Affairs. It's ugly - and it's our own government doing it. And yes, money is a factor. How much do you think a contract to be the sole-supplier of the anthrax vaccine was worth? And why does the FDA have a history of looking the other way on the bad safety records of DoD contractors who repeatedly fail inspections? It's a dirty business.
I'm not saying vaccines are bad - I'm addressing the author of the article's question about why people "fear" things like government-sponsored or even mandated vaccines. I wouldn't say it's how our brains are wired - that's become a popular meme nowadays - it's a complicated combination of socialization and experience. Here in America, we have a rather proud tradition of distrust of government, even when it's trying to do "good." And science isn't "final" either. So, what seems like a good thing - a vaccine or wonder drug like thalidomide - turns out in 7 or 10 years, we figure out causes birth defects - whoops! How about that wonderful defoliant - Agent Orange? The VA still routinely denies claims for AO exposure - the San Diego Union Tribune did a wonderful expose on it a few years back.
That the author ignores all of this history and instead tells us we're "wired" to be, essentially, non-scientific, is doing a great disservice to people - and over-selling the point he's trying to make. People distrust for very good reasons, maybe because they're entirely scientific and they understand that science - particularly medical science - is constantly evolving and not "final" on most points. The author might want to take a look at something called "personalized medicine" as well and understand that what vaccine is great for you may be contraindicated for me because of a particular set of genetic traits that make me pre-disposed to turn into a blowfish if I take a certain vaccine or medicine.
But yes, generally, vaccines are better than NOT getting vaccinated in the aggregate (statistically). That doesn't mean, however, that any given individual might not have a legitimate cause for concern about a particular vaccine for themselves.
Meant to say, "try telling that to a woman who’s convinced her son is now autistic because of a tetanus shot."
Great point, Mr. Saran. Also a miljus practitioner, I see. BZ.
I always enjoy the musical and reading selections HQ puts up. Bravo! I just hope I'm not the only one enjoying Tchaikovsky's 6th Symphony...
Gee, I wonder if Josh and Mary's son will be any good at CF in about 20 years? A beast in the making no doubt...
Concur Phil....it is good to question authority, it is good to question the status quo, especially when it comes to big business in our capitalist economy. But people have grown so wary of authority these days that they assume everything is a conspiracy before weighing the facts at hand. Not everything is a conspiracy however, as Dr Wakefield and his anti-vaxers would suggest.
good to see greg amundson videos again.
Crossfit should have a 'where are they now' of the original crossfit hq crew.
I would really like to know what Brendan Gilliam is up to. Stalkerish? Maybe.
Anyone else agree?
5K 23:01. Should have picked up the pace earlier. Definitely can push harder.
Yesterday's WOD was much harder than i expected. I believe it was more the forearms than anything, having to grasp onto the weight for a longer duration of time.
I threw in 20 DU's after each set.
In lbs.: 30, 35, 40, 45, 50.
Not too sure on the time, i tried to keep track, but lost it after a bit.
you can find fail shirt at lifeasrx
My son stopped talking the week he got his MMR. Not saying it caused it, but certainly triggered it.
Glad to know that scientists and doctors are there to look out for me and my son and not make money for themselves. Such nobility and devotion to the Hypocratic Oath... just like politicians.
"and if this medical mass hysteria is not checked soon we could face a terrible resurgence in these deadly diseases"
Hyperbole brought to you by the makers of the lipid hypothesis and statins.
Rubella is self-resolving and not usually serious.
In areas with mumps outbreaks, at least half infected have typically been vaccinated. Measles can be serious and carries a .3% mortality rate.
Neither side seems committed to objectivity.
There is no shortage of quality individuals in the CrossFit community. I appreciate so much those who have been willing to share their private experiences for the benefit of human kind. I am so grateful to Coach Glassman and staff for the fantastic website, to include to the incredible CrossFit journal, an infinite database to help us go forward in our fitness journeys. I have had the privilege of attending certifications where I have gotten instruction from these good people we see on the mainsite from time to time. My entire life has improved since the day I did my first wod. After three years of following the mainsite, I still continue to learn new things daily. Greg Amundson, you have an incredible message and I look forward to hearing part 2. I just want to thank CrossFit for getting these messages out, for the wods, demo videos, and everything else!
Bill #24 - You're not the only one enjoying the Tchaikovsky!
What a great brass sound!
Very thought provoking Sheehan article. Anti-authoritarian with strong emphasis on self-reliance, knowing yourself and your body. Good advice. Thanks.
The vaccine/autism link is a classic case of "post hoc ergo propter hoc" logical fallacy. If event A precedes event B, then event B was caused by event A. Typically children are vaccinated with MMR (and a bunch of other vaccines) in the same general period that autistic symptoms begin to be exibited. It is simple for people to assume there is an autism "cause" or "trigger" associated with a single event (although I suspect that is too simplistic) and so vaccinations become an easy target (what other medical procedures have most children had at that age). Without a definitive, causal link you can't make a logical conclusion.
Are vaccines totally safe? No. Is wearing your seatbelt totally safe? No. So what? Nothing is garanteed but both of those things will tend to pay off in the long run. Unless someone has a known allergy or other condition that would make a standard vaccination excessively risky then there really isn't a very good argument against receiving the vaccination.
Should people be able to decide not to have their children vaccinated? Of course. However, school districts, daycares, gyms, amusement parks, etc. have to be able to exclude people who choose to make that decision.
I'm not a doctor, but as an engineer I understand a little bit about risk management. My two kids have been, and will continue to be, vaccinated as recommended by the government. Not because I don't "question authority", "follow the money" or "fear the government", but because I don't want them to get sick. No one has to pass a law to get me to wear my seatbelt, brush my teeth, or take my medicine when it is obvious good sense to do so. If, sometime in the future, a link is shown between some of these behaviors and negative outcomes that I want to avoid, then I will re-evaluate my actions.
Atta girl Mary! Looking amazing!
Did "Deck of Cards"
Hearts - pushups
Diamonds - pullups
Spades - situps
Clubs - squats
Jokers - run 1 mile
Face cards = 10
Aces = 11
Numbered = as valued
So much for "rest day"!
Spot on Greg. Very motivational. Keep this stuff coming!
#32 JJH, not sure where you were going with that post but I am assuming you are highlighting the fact that autism diagnosis rates are increasing. I carefully use the phrase "diagnosis rates" as this is exactly what this is, not incidence. I would imagine that if you tracked the number of cases of people dying of "old age" over time it would decrease dramatically. Also, true for other diseases such as "consumption" and imbalances in humours... I would argue that the number of cases of autism have not increased, rather we have simply put a name to something that has existed for a very long time. Historically, these same kids would have been put in the "special education" classroom and assumed to be mentally handicapped in some form or another. It is a great step forward that we can now more appropriately diagnose autism, but it is incredibly irresponsible to display data regarding autism rates unless one absolutely qualifies the data.
Have to agree with you, Wildcat, that neither side seems committed to objectivity. And it's certainly ironic that a review of a book entitled 'The Panic Virus' seeks to create a panic of its own: the 'terrible resurgence [of] deadly diseases, which killed hundreds of millions of people before the invention of vaccines.'
To add to this, I'd also respectfully submit that if scientists can cite reduced community vaccination rates in accurate percentages, then they should also be able to cite with similar accuracy the correlated pattern in these vaccine-preventable diseases. For the author to simply say they're 'on the comeback trail' proves nothing, and causes his premise to lose its potency. It's an important point; vaccination rates for last year's swine flu were not nearly high enough to prevent herd immunity, and yet the terrible pandemic heavily advertised by the CDC never came to pass.
The article reminds me of both the book, "Culture of Fear," by Barry Glassner and the novel, "State of Fear," by Michael Crichton. As someone skating the line between hard science and public policy myself, I think it's dangerously easy to either maliciously or unintentionally propagate fear from innocent ignorance.
RE: Epidemic of Ignorance.
It seems to me that an organization that supports genetic requirement based exercise patterns and paleolithic diet choices would also be against vaccination. Completely cutting out our innate (inborn) cellular immunity is clearly not a good solution, and is coming back to bite us in the ass. Every system in the human body needs to be challenged in order to thrive. This includes the immune system. Trading all of our cellular immunity for humoral immunity (ie TH2 shift ie vaccination) causes cellular immunity to suffer. I am not saying that vaccination causes autism, I am saying that we are stacking the deck against us by trying to outwit nature and outwit 10s of thousands of years of genetic evolution. You have more bacteria in your body than you have cells in your body. Its your ability to regulate that system that keeps you healthy. That means having a 50/50 balance of cellular and humoral immunity. THINK CROSSFITTERS!!
great article and great dialog in here. I am an engineer also and can't really comment on the pros and cons of the article and science behind it (or lack thereof) but I do tend to agree with the conclusion that the human mind tends to base decisions on emotion instead of logical reasoning.
It explains a lot- Vegas, lotteries, strong opinions with no supporting facts. I think it also explains to a certain degree why our gov't is in such poor shape. People clamor for benefits, gov't assistance, subsidies, and programs that we can not afford. Americans want the good feeling of getting what they want but ignore the fact that logically we can not afford it. Families have done it, cities, states, and the whole darn country. It also reminded me of the white paper linked here a couple weeks back about how stupid people don't know they are stupid and typically assume they are in the 60th percentile or so when in reality they are in the bottom 10%.
Sort of a rant in a different direction but I wish we could all be a bit more grounded in logic. We can't always go research everything ourselves to find the truth so sometimes we get taken in by others that don't know much but fake it well.
Another possible explanation: Greater awareness of the disorder, and programs in some parts of the country that can help children regain skills, may make parents more willing to have their children diagnosed.
"But awareness can only go so far" to explain the rising levels of autism, says Dr. Baio. "We are still identifying more children with autism, in all levels of severity, than ever before, which is why this continues to be a perplexing and urgent concern."
Max Overhead squat for dynamic effort starting next week.
the first time, i squatted to parallel and stood up and so tried again in the same attempt and broke parallel for full rom. can probably do more but didn't have bumper plates
Walking home from school the long way in the cold = approx 5 miles
nb. Regarding "calling" epidemics, it's notoriously difficult. Look up the "Texas sharpshooter" effect. Even people committed to absolute objectivity are subject to unconscious biases because of the difficulty in obtaining large-enough samples of rare events to draw useful conclusions.
It's possible that the children who went deaf/stopped speaking had a nasty immune reaction to a vaccine; it's also possible that, given the enormous numbers involved, a handful of progressive nerve deafness cases or latent autistic symptoms emerged right around the same time as a vaccination was administered. Given that it is unethical to administer placebo vaccines and unethical to downplay herd immunity, I don't foresee anyone's opinions on either side changing any time soon. Add in conspiracy theories, entrenched medical views, corporate interests, and political grandstanding, and estimating the true incidence of symptoms in vaccinated and unvaccinated children becomes exceedingly difficult.
However, that's the one (only?) thing that could actually resolve the damned question. Is there an increase in risk beyond that expected by chance in the population? If so, is it justified? The latter stanza is the powderkeg, because it asks people to weigh potential harm to their children against potential epidemics harming other children. I do not know if we are equipped as a species to do this well.
Some equally valid points. I just want to emphasize - I'm not against vaccines, given the utility they've shown in eliminating or nearly doing so with many formerly deadly diseases/viruses. But I'm also against the kind of hysteria that this author uses (as others noted above) and then decrying other people's hysteria about vaccines - and then blaming it on people's "inability" to reason properly by some evolutionary failing of our brain chemistry.
As we learn more about the human genome and medicine becomes increasingly targeted to individual efficacy related to a person's genetic code, I wouldn't be surprised if we start having a finger stick before we get our drugs and a little printout tells the pharmacist not to use amoxycillin because of our coding, but instead to give us doxicycline or augmentin or whatever to reduce the chance of some odd reaction.
I suspect vaccines may be headed in that direction, too. That raises a whole lot more questions, but it's interesting nonetheless.
Beautiful Tchaikovsky, thanks!
subbed barbell for dumbbells
Took yesterday as rest day, so did today's CFfootball WOD
I want to thank everyone on this site who has kept an open mind about the possibility of a connection between vaccines and the onset of autism in certain susceptible children. Dr. Wakefield and Jen McCarthy are not anti vaccine as this author insinuates but are very concerned about the ever growing vaccine schedule and the lack of testing on the combinations and accumulations of the by products and additives in these injections. Dr. Wakefield, unfortunately, had to be destroyed for asking for further research into a possible connection. Over two billion dolllars have already been paid from the U.S. governments' vaccine injury compensation fund for injuries to our children from routine vaccinations,( the inherent dangers are admitted by the vaccine companies) and if a connection between vaccines and autism is firmly established you can just imagine the consequences. This is an epidemic, make no mistake. These children are not going away and are becoming adults soon and they will have to be cared for. There will be no more - "they were just mis-diagnosed, they were always here"- nonsense. The numbers are too overwhelming.
On the bright side, I'd like to say that my vaccine injured son (15 years old) loves Crossfit and is learning as best he can to perform the elements. We go off hours because my older son has an affiliate and we can do some workouts safely and I can give him the individual attention needed. He does get to see a lot of the members though and enjoys the social aspect too. I believe it is helping his self esteem and confidence and should be a big part of his life going forward. He has beem non-verbal since 1997 when he recieved multi doses of routine vaccines two weekends in a row. Please pray for Danny. He trys harder than anyone I know to achieve greatness and he really deserved a better lot in life. thank you. God bless the entire CrossFit family!!!!!
I find it rather disappointing that if doctors dont believe the parents of autistic child, they are labeled as having violated the hippocratic oath. I share a deep concern for the growing rates of autism and have a great amount of empathy for parents struggling to raise their autistic children. But to side with a parent, with no medical/scientific training, in assuming their "vaccine-injured" child was harmed by vaccines based upon a "hunch," is medically irresponsible, especially when considering the large body of evidence that supports the contrary. Empathy is good, but should never skew logic/fact. And no parent of an autistic child can offer any evidence of a direct link to vaccines.
A great place to start if you want to learn about this crisis is the "Age of Autism" website. This information is for anyone who doesn't have a financial interest in the current vaccine schedule but for anyone who is interested in obtaining answers to the important treatment of their kids. Don't be misled by the "one size fit s all" mentality of many pediatricians. Many of the more progressive doctors are aware of the problems and will work with you. Take the time you need to find one that has your childs best interest in mind. This is way too important to be bullied a doctor who refuses or is too lazy to keep up to date on these issues.
The Hannah Poling case provided a direct link between vaccines and autism, but I have a "hunch" that this could be an inconvenient truth to some people. Peace.
"Do not tell me what to do, tell me what you do. Do not tell me what is good for me, tell me what is good for you. If, at the same time you reveal the you in me, if you become a mirror to my inner self, then you have made a listener and a friend."
Thank you for sharing this essay written by George Sheehan back in 1889. What is most amazing to me despite the time that has passed since he wrote this, are the correlations I see between life then and now and how thru crossfit people can become experts in themselves.
I recommend everyone read it!
Her shorts are far too short, this isn't the 70s anymore, I don't think I can continue to come to crossfit anymore
Absolutely beautiful, strong and powerful. And, she does it all with clothes on! Go Mary!