November 19, 2010

Friday 101119

Rest Day

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Nick Stroesser.


"The Burgener Warm-Up" with Coach Mike Burgener, CrossFit Journal preview video [wmv] [mov]

"California Road Trip: Part 4" by Sevan Matossian, CrossFit Journal preview video [wmv] [mov]


Austin Malleolo and Rich Froning Jr. at the Team Rogue Vs. Team Again Faster Tahoe Throwdown - video [wmv] [mov]


Henry Purcell, Trumpet Sonata in D.


Samuel Taylor Coleridge - The Rime Of The Ancyent Marinere.


"Oceanside Man Ejected From Airport For Refusing Security Check" by Robert Hawkins, Sign On San Diego.

"Get the Government Out of Our Pants" by Steve Chapman, Reason.

"TSA Encounter at SAN" JohnnyEdge.blogspot.

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Posted by lauren at November 19, 2010 5:00 PM
Comments

Ha ha, that's a great pic.

Comment #1 - Posted by: Arnel D. at November 18, 2010 5:04 PM

Opt out of the body scanners!

Comment #2 - Posted by: FTS at November 18, 2010 5:06 PM

TSA story is ridiculous. Having your 'junk' patted because you refused to be screened is far less invasive than other things people do every day for their well-being (eg, pap smears). Get over it and fly.

Comment #3 - Posted by: jt at November 18, 2010 5:15 PM

nice. Canadian Brass is rocking the main site.

Comment #4 - Posted by: Bill Gibson at November 18, 2010 5:29 PM

hahaha. Let the ranting begin...

Comment #5 - Posted by: sam_r at November 18, 2010 5:31 PM

I would never subject my body to low dose radiation scans when a pat-down is the alternative. Over a lifetime these exposures may be cumulatively harmful. If you really get so bent out of shape from a security pat-down then don't fly. Flying after all is a choice.

Comment #6 - Posted by: XMD at November 18, 2010 5:40 PM

I agree with jt. The guy in the story whines alot and after living in China for a year it never ceases to amaze me how little people are willing to put up with. However, (John?) makes several good points especially about the choice between getting felt up or subjected to a "low dose of radiation". A word: no dose of radiation is low. The other editorialist made a good point as well about TSA saving pictures. Its wrong and it will likely happen again.

Now, as a crossfitter, I have absolutely no qualms with my body. However, some people do and I respect that. A question I would like to ask this guy or anybody else who dislikes these security procedures is: Well what do you want? If a terrorist blows up a plane because he didn't get screened everyone would be furious and blame the government for not protecting us. But if the government takes steps to screen people more aggressively, well, then they are being too invasive with their Obamameters. I am willing to grit my teeth and let a government agent get to second base with me (all the while making the obligatory "Hey not on the first date" comment)if it means safer flights. And if you don't like it you can opt out by driving or better yet (but admittedly far more inconvenient), take a train.

Just my 2 cents. Feel free to rip it apart.

-Andrew

Comment #7 - Posted by: Andrew at November 18, 2010 5:48 PM

Six months down, six months to go. How about a little data on next years masters. Are any of last years folks going to be pre-qualified. For what its worth grant the top 3 a non requal option. Give this years masters hell. One parting note, when I here these videos mention about being past the prime of life. I dont see it that way. 52 an still getting stronger & faster.

Comment #8 - Posted by: Cav at November 18, 2010 5:49 PM

ok, so you are cool with some TSN wanna be cop, grabbing your crotch. fine. are you cool with him grab grabbing your sons?

I think we can find better options then radiation scans, or strip searches. i mean it takes hours to clear security anyway, whats another 20 minutes?


Comment #9 - Posted by: hayes at November 18, 2010 5:55 PM

Take it from a guy who works at a nuclear reactor: that much radiation is NOT a concern. You get far more from natural sources every way. You would have to be scanned hundreds of times a day, every day, to get anywhere near your annual dose limit.

On the other hand, airline security is pretty absurd. It's treating a symptom (terrorism) of a deeper problem (our foreign policy).

Comment #10 - Posted by: Silver at November 18, 2010 5:55 PM

I will address the elephant in the room. Why aren't we openly discriminating against Muslim men that have recently been living in middle eastern countries in their twenties that fly on airplanes? The debate is over this is the description of terrorists.

Comment #11 - Posted by: patrick l bateman at November 18, 2010 6:04 PM

YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME PEOPLE!!!! Are we really going to start being so idiodic about security? An invasion of privacy? Im sorry but when did flying become a right? You buy a ticket, you choose to fly on someone elses plane. If you come in my house and I ask you to take off your shoes you do it because its my house, not yours. If you want to fly on their plane, get searched or go get your own dang plane! We have service members fighting and dieing overseas for your rights and safety, not to hear you whine cause the government is trying to protect all of its citizens with security measures. If you don't like the pat downs and scanners, go get a ruck, grab some five fingers, start humping to your destination. Humanity did it for thousands of years before you came along. You fly for convenience, not out of necessity. I know people are going to abuse what they do at their jobs and people aren't going to know all of the rules, but lets face it. Not everyone out there is the best qualified for every job, but the job has to be done and they are the ones who signed up to do it. Whew, Im done!!!

Comment #12 - Posted by: Agro Marine Billy Rad at November 18, 2010 6:05 PM

Look what Islam has done.

And the liberals are letting them get away with it.

Comment #13 - Posted by: Tim Carr at November 18, 2010 6:10 PM

Could be dude only has 1 nut, or 3. just say no!

Comment #14 - Posted by: kent at November 18, 2010 6:17 PM

7 x 115

Comment #15 - Posted by: ryan k at November 18, 2010 6:19 PM

# 11, fair question but I see a big issue with your idea.

First, screening based on middle eastern origin would be easy to circumvent. For example: a large minority of Al Qaeda is Chechen (15% ish) who are Caucasians (similar looking to Russians). Then what do you do about all the Filipino, African (that underwear bomber was from Nigeria) , Chinese (Uighurs), or even North American members of Al Qaeda (remember John Walker Lindh and that Adam Gaddan jerk?)

Hayes, fair point. I don't have kids, but if I did, no, I wouldn't be ok with it, especially if they were younger. I grew up with family vacations in cars and trains, we didn't take planes until I was in my teens. I would probably just take my kids in a car or train.

Comment #16 - Posted by: Andrew at November 18, 2010 6:23 PM

At least reading the rest day rabble is good for a few laughes

Comment #17 - Posted by: BurgundyActual at November 18, 2010 6:25 PM

Fly naked!

Comment #18 - Posted by: waderpro D m/48 W f/45 at November 18, 2010 6:27 PM

He had like 26 nuts all over his body.

Comment #19 - Posted by: Rogaine Mane at November 18, 2010 6:52 PM

The links to the TSA screening issues are lame at best. Why post a blog by some hippie from San Diego who refused to fly because he's afraid someone will see his small member on the scanner? Remember this folks, the USA is the best country on earth. Let's keep it safe. Save the left-wing bloviating for another website!

Comment #20 - Posted by: DC at November 18, 2010 6:58 PM

#16 By openly discriminate I mean apply extra scrutiny to Muslim men. I am aware that there are terrorists of every race, but facts are facts these are the perpetrators the vast majority of the time. I am also implying that white housewives with their 3 kids going to disney land and grandmothers and their knitting needles get a pass. What happens when a bomber hides a bomb in their anal cavity? Am I subject to a prison style strip search?

Comment #21 - Posted by: patrick l bateman at November 18, 2010 7:11 PM

Its time to put an end to the TSA's idiocy. For those of you posting your comments here in favor of the TSA's procedures, maybe you should familiarize yourself with what it takes to qualify for that job. I'm currently active duty military, and it took me a whopping hour to get certified in homeland security. I did it over the internet, and took the test with the study guide on another screen, which they give you prior to the start of the test. I even got up and went got something to eat in the middle of it, before I finished. The qualification requirements are a joke, the TSA is a joke. Before you rant and rave about how secure you are with these procedures in place, maybe its time for you to learn a little about the world around you, and what really goes on.

Comment #22 - Posted by: Bart at November 18, 2010 7:25 PM

I'd say this is just my 2 cents, but I was beaten to the statement...
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
--Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

Comment #23 - Posted by: Rodney at November 18, 2010 7:32 PM

NEWSWIRE: A potential terrorist bomb plot went awry today when an airline passenger tried to set off a pair of testicle bombs made of C4, but only managed to kill himself. When the TSA agent who had performed the pat down of the "nut bomber" was questioned, he stated they felt real to him.

TSA updated security measures: In light of the recent terrorist attempt utilizing fake testicles, all male passengers are now subject to placing their privates on a table where a TSA agent will whack them with a mallet. Only passengers who exhibit severe pain and tears in their eyes will be allowed to board their flight.

Hey, you have no right to fly. If you don't like it, walk or take a train...you left wing Obama lover you.

Comment #24 - Posted by: waderpro D m/48 W f/45 at November 18, 2010 7:33 PM

@23

Well as former military (which lends zero credence to the argument), let me draw for you the distinction between the security procedures practiced by the TSA and the requirements for getting a job with them. Two separate issues. If this had been implemented on Sep 12 people would have gladly and "patriotically" stripped searched before boarding a plane. Now it's a life or death issue, for which Obama is somehow to blame I imagine. If you're getting this wrapped around the axle on this issue you've got bigger things to worry about in life.

Comment #25 - Posted by: Patrick at November 18, 2010 7:52 PM

Nice video with Froning and Malleolo. Personnally, I've been improving faster since I've been doing 2 workout per day, but like they said, you have to listen to your body, sometimes I just do 1, and sometimes I only workout 2 days instead of 3.

Comment #26 - Posted by: PPSP at November 18, 2010 7:56 PM

#24
You seem to contradict yourself. You complained about TSA and advised we all walk. Do you suggest we abolish TSA and public transportation? I'm from Detroit, so we have half that equation done here. I wonder if the TSA rules are the ideas of the executive branch and they desire a communist state. What say you?

Comment #27 - Posted by: Chaz at November 18, 2010 8:03 PM

#24
You seem to contradict yourself. You complained about TSA and advised we all walk. Do you suggest we abolish TSA and public transportation? I'm from Detroit, so we have half that equation done here. I wonder if the TSA rules are the ideas of the executive branch and they desire a communist state. What say you?

Comment #28 - Posted by: Chaz at November 18, 2010 8:04 PM

#29. It's only a contradiction if you don't read the entire post (including the last part)as a lame attempt at sarcasm in response to some of the earlier posts.

I believe we are on a slippery slope in regards to the amount of freedom we are collectively so easily willing to cede in the name of security or more appropriately, fear.

Blindly following without questioning is a sign of weakness, not strength. I applaud those that are at least willing to step back for a moment and say, WTF? (regardless of who's "side" is in charge)

Comment #29 - Posted by: waderpro D m/48 W f/45 at November 18, 2010 8:28 PM

Oh yeah and Jerry...if the US is so bad why don't you check out Mogadishu i hear it's lovely this time of year.

Comment #30 - Posted by: ZMan at November 18, 2010 8:29 PM

Given the large Libertarian bent that many CrossFit posters exhibit here, I'm surprised by the casual acquiescence to intrusive government searches. That is an attitude more befitting of a George Bush NeoCon than a Ron Paul Libertarian. The 4th Amendment exists for a reason.

Comment #31 - Posted by: BradyB at November 18, 2010 8:37 PM

I, for one, am glad to see "The Rime of the Ancyent Marinere."
Read that aloud to the kids - and better yet, get the edition with the Gustave Dore drawings.

Comment #32 - Posted by: TRN III at November 18, 2010 8:39 PM

I travel a lot and the TSA guys are NOT real strong swimmers. You get what you pay for.

I like my job, I like what I do. When I am in one of these situations I thank my lucky stars that I don't spend all day in an airport with a purple glove on feeling up guys thighs and beyond. Sometimes I get the metal detector, sometimes the MMW scanner (BTW don't go through sweaty, it shows up darker and will get you an extra grope) and if I get the frisky feel up I just suck it up b/c I know it is for the greater good. For the folks who don't want these procedures what would THEY propose?

The process goes relatively quickly right now, the hold up is the travellers with little expereince....too much jewelery, shoes with laces, boots, layers of clothing, prohibited items (liquids, large toiletries etc )and larger famillies with lots of little kids and strollers (nothing against these families, I was one of them once, the logisitics are tough for them). I don't know what the future holds for the next "round" of changes after the next bombing technique comes up.

Here's a nugget for you, TSA guy told me once they will target us military types (young, short hair, fit, "military look") because we are used to this type of harassment, think of the last mobility movement for a deployment, and will generally do what we are told with little fuss. Heck I'm not getting another anthrax or small-pox shot, I consider it a win. For the TSA they get a square filled of pat downs and no "scene". How ironic that they want to do a thorough search on the demographic that is there to protect the country. Makes me feel useful! LOL.

Comment #33 - Posted by: F15E_WSO at November 18, 2010 9:06 PM

I recently tried to subscribe to CrossFit magazine and for some reason it says there is an error when I was making my payment. I checked my bank statement and it has withdrawn the $25 however I don't have the full access like I should to some of the videos (ie. California Roadtrip). Could someone please help me out or point me in the right direction so I can try to resolve this. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Comment #34 - Posted by: Brett Simpson at November 18, 2010 9:19 PM

Can anyone help in regards to subscribing to the journal. It says there is an error when I go to pay the $25 however my bank statement shows the money is withdrawn. I tried watching some of the videos that require subscription and it won't let me. Any help would greatly appreciated!

Comment #35 - Posted by: Brett Simpson at November 18, 2010 9:21 PM

It's a sad day when the usually feisty, keep-the-government under control Crossfit crowd is okay with TSA groping.

(sadly) reminds me of this quote:

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger"
-Herman Goering
at the Nuremberg trials

Comment #36 - Posted by: Hannah Banana at November 18, 2010 9:33 PM

@34, What is it going to take? Al Qaeda to start putting road side bombs down in the states? We were attacked, people are still trying to attack us and our allies.
@29, the Fourth Ammendment protects you against unlawful search and seizure. You are attempting to use a form of transportation that is regulated by the government, due to the potential safety concerns (9/11/2001, 4 planes, lots of people were killed, just a reminder). These airlines are owned by privat companies that follow federal guidlines for the safety of their passengers. You give up that right if you want to use it!!!

You people need to wake up, You want to know what is really going on in the world and how good you have it? Go volunteer overseas in a war zone, go work for green peace in Africa, go on a mission somewhere and teach people about your religion. I dont care what you choose to do, but get the heck off your couch and stop pointing the finger at this Country you so love to criticize but have done nothing to help.

Comment #37 - Posted by: Agro Marine Billy Rad at November 18, 2010 10:11 PM

that stick runner isn't doing pose very effectively

Comment #38 - Posted by: Nick at November 18, 2010 10:12 PM

Wow, talk about a radical shift in idealogy. When I heard there were complaints about airport security invading privacy, I thought it was from the liberals. Nope, it was being hyped on Fox News with lots of complaints but no solutions (big signal of a non-issue). Seriously, when did airport security fall into being a liberal concept? Did that radical far right move so far that they wrapped the globe and now are in loony liberal land?

Personally, I'm for both profiling and random screening for both body scans and pat downs when it comes to airplanes. I'm for dogs and luggage searches. Of course, this in only with regards to air travel as such vehicles make easy targets and cross international borders with frequency (one can still drive and take a boat).

PS: Do a google search on the term "You have no rights when you're dead". You should find out how many people screaming about privacy rights on the TV today were against such things on TV pre-Obama (ie when giving up your rights were Patriotic).

Comment #39 - Posted by: Nukemarine at November 18, 2010 10:18 PM

Go to Youtube and search for "Checkpoint USA". There you'll find videos of US Citizens standing by their Constitutional rights. Compare the videos to the videos of the airport screening situation. Compare the reactions (more importantly, compare the tone and ideological bent) in the comments.

Personally, I don't think internal, suspensionless checkpoints 60+ miles from the border compare to an airport (much higher security concern) but that's me. In the case of the airport, he should not have been verbally threatened as he was. He should have be escorted out, gotten the refund and left it at that. Same as if I don't say what my citizenship at an internal checkpoint, I should be sent on my way if there's no reason to detain me.

My prediction: Due to the brew hah hah by the echo chamber media, airports will just escort people out that opt out and leave it at that. Faced with not getting a flight, most will decide it's better to get the scan or pat down.

Comment #40 - Posted by: Nukemarine at November 18, 2010 10:33 PM

this country is ridiculous. we are willing to send young men and women off to fight and die in the name of combating terrorism, but subject the rest of us to a thorough security check when we get on an airplane? too far!

there is no right to air travel, and being subjected to a body screen is hardly a large price to pay in the name of fighting terrorism and saving american lives.

oh and hello, tsa does profile, as do border agents. it's just not an official policy.

but beyond that, what happens when a "normal" looking person (john walker lindh ring a bell?) decides to join the jihadist cause and get on an airplane? you would prefer that he skip the body scan with the rest of the white people and just get on the plane?

Comment #41 - Posted by: dan at November 18, 2010 11:24 PM

@#2: I second that!

@#3: Enhanced security screenings conducted in the middle of crowded airport security areas ≠ medical examinations conducted in private rooms of a clinic. The public humiliation by goons with badges through porno-scanning or excessive fondling is at issue, not the procedure.

@#4: Flying is a choice . . . until the state gets involved.

@#7: Humor at the screening station does not diminish the state’s violation of your fourth amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure regardless of your level of tolerance for said violation.

@#8: In the state’s rush to employ these scanners they have failed to conduct any substantive study of the scanners’ long term effects of frequent exposure (though I am not doubting your personal expertise of radiation gained through your occupation). BINGO, on your point about foreign policy, which really trumps any argument about scanner safety.

@#9 and #16: It’s unfortunate that reasonable people would subject themselves to porno-scans and willful molestation, but think twice about the very same act that victimizes children, their own or otherwise. Can we agree that no one should be subjected to such depravity? I take issue with the “protect the children” disposition as this rationale has allowed the state to adopt policies that reduce our freedoms and intrudes into our daily lives.

@#11 & #21: Overtly applying different security standards to certain people due to ethnicity or place of origin will not ensure the safety of air travel as #16 points out. And, yes, air travel in the United States could become “Con-Air” with the next miserable failure by government security.

@#12: I agree; flying is not a right. Airfare exchanged for transportation is a mutual exchange to benefit to travelers and the airline. Your metaphor is not accurate. It’s more like this: the airline has invited us to the house, but the homeowners’ association doesn’t allow shoes in any houses, and has imposed overbearing thugs at homes to ensure that no shoes are worn in houses. TSA security measures have crossed the line with regard to rights, the same rights that our service members profess to fighting and dying for. There is no defending the indefensible, and when the military defends the TSA’s policy because they are both organs of the state, the military undermines its stated aims and diminishes our freedoms.

@13: Islam did not cause this. The problem is bi-partisan in nature. The solution is not to scapegoat, but to take back our dignity and refuse to give it away for the pretense of security.

@22: The TSA is not the only government organization that would qualify for your assessment.

@29: Amen.

@31: Irony is right. The guardians of freedom become the TSA’s showcase to the sheeple on how to submit to government degradation and humiliation.

Comment #42 - Posted by: twiki2 at November 18, 2010 11:45 PM

time to exercise the 2nd amendment remedy people. stand up to big brother when he grabs your junk. put a bullet in his head.

Comment #43 - Posted by: orwello at November 19, 2010 1:32 AM

I bet the TSA and the direct victims of 9/11 wish they were patted down better if at all. People need to grow up... These are professionals.Woman pat down woman and men do men.
As far as the scanners, the radiation is so little... if u believe that is an issue then get the heck off your cell phone... you prob use that 50 times a day..

Comment #44 - Posted by: brian at November 19, 2010 2:50 AM

And people keep getting on "rights". Its your right to fly or not. Its my right that when I fly, the Habeeb looking guy next to me does not have a bomb taped to his penis...

Reallllllly think what you are all saying. Times have changed since 9/11 because of the evil people out there...

Comment #45 - Posted by: brian at November 19, 2010 2:57 AM

To those saying there is no right to air travel... That's correct, but what right does the government have to nationalize air travel. If companies were allowed to operate independently then we would be able to exercise our right to choose by which security measures we subject ourselves. All yo self described conservatives are out here supporting big government.. That makes no sense. sometimes its a shame humans in general are so willing and able to adapt to small changes. The general corruption of our government, the infiltration of government into the free market etc. doesn't happen in a day. Its time to stop giving them any ground at all no matter how insignificant. All of you are so "patriotic"... Don't you think there were quite a few members of society who said "who gives a crap its only a tax on tea". Wake up, "patriots".

Comment #46 - Posted by: Adamkry at November 19, 2010 3:34 AM

One more thing... I'm sick of people saying 'oh then go live in Zimbabwe if you don't like it." No, all of you who have ever said that, read this right here and then remain quiet the next time you want to spout off on this crap. What this person was doing by saying no to the government official at the airline was in direct support of the Constitution of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. No where in that document does it give the government exclusive rights to the air, the control of an entire industry, or the right to search you without cause. So if you don't support the constitution, the document on which the country was founded, the document which literally defines us as Americans, than you get the heck out.

I don't mean to be rude but it is shocking how stupid people can be.

Comment #47 - Posted by: adamk at November 19, 2010 3:52 AM

Consider the likelihood of terrorists attempting to do the same thing again and again. They will; if not thwarted. However, the enemy will nearly always follow the path of least resistance. Why are IED's seemingly without end in and around the combat theatre of operations? Relatively cheap, avaible, easy to conceal, complicit populace and they obtain desired effect w/o real cost to the opposing combatant. Looking down the terrorist and counter-terrorist road which is more likely: 9/11 ReDo or "toner bombs" via UPS/Fedex, cargo ship surprises, assaults on power grids, or food or H2O supplies? The apparent focus by TSA and Homeland Security is not entirely where it might be the most effective. We all should realize that individual liberty will necessarily be compromised if we as a society demand "safety" and "security". Everything is relative now, isn't it?

Comment #48 - Posted by: ian at November 19, 2010 5:11 AM

My God, much ado about nothing.

My solution is this. Two planes. One you can literally walk on to with no checks, the other, you are screened. Which one will you fly on?

This guy is so self important, it's unreal. I'm pretty sure you don't have anything special down there - indeed, maybe that's the problem? Why so much drama? And for the guy piping up about touching kids....I don't see anyone touching kids. I see a guy throwing his toys out of the pram because he felt like making a big deal over something minor. Is this your first day flying or something? Think that a pat down is something new? You are a fool.

Had I been on the A.A desk I'd have made you pay for another flight.

Jog on.

Comment #49 - Posted by: Bryson at November 19, 2010 5:24 AM

My goodness...much ado about nothing.

My solution is this. Two planes. One you can literally walk on to with no checks, the other, you are screened. Which one will you fly on?

This guy is so self important, it's unreal. I'm pretty sure you don't have anything special down there - indeed, maybe that's the problem? Why so much drama? And for the guy piping up about touching kids....I don't see anyone touching kids. I see a guy throwing his toys out of the pram because he felt like making a big deal over something minor. Is this your first day flying or something? Think that a pat down is something new?

Had I been on the A.A desk I'd have made you pay for another flight.

Jog on.

Comment #50 - Posted by: Jbeexy at November 19, 2010 5:25 AM

Dear Crossfit,

My gym and working out are some of the last bastions of peace for me. Please do not spoil crossfit by entering into political non-fitness discussions. Do we not already have enough places to banter about such topics as TSA etc?

Let's focus on fitness, strength and health!

Comment #51 - Posted by: Paul Austin at November 19, 2010 5:36 AM

Tough Mudder 12-Miler (Englishtown NJ) tomorrow, wish me luck!

Comment #52 - Posted by: toddamn m/36/5'8"/155 at November 19, 2010 6:02 AM

Pat me down if you must. I just want to get my dime bag through without a fuss.

Comment #53 - Posted by: Thomas at November 19, 2010 6:12 AM

Maybe we should all sit in jail cells so the government will have us "perfectly" protected. Like many others here posting, I also see it as gov't control without any real reason. There have been terrorists forever and there will always be terrorists in the future. Our gov't is once again fighting a war we can not ever win. You can't fight an idea or an enemy when you don't know who the enemy is so we all become the enemy until proven otherwise to the satisfaction of big brother. How much money did we spend (and continue to spend) on the War on Drugs. Nothing against Nancy Reagan but that was just one more example of a "war" that you can not win.

And also just for the record, it would be many times easier and many times more devastating to knock out a power grid, contaminate a water supply, etc. with just a little bit of knowledge. I don't think it would take a great deal of sophistication to cause serious chaos in a major metropolitan area. Actually surprised that hasn't happened. yet. But if and when it does, then we will all be closer to that jail cell of protection because then any person walking down any street could be the next grim reaper / war monger / stooge looking to cause death and destruction.

In the grand scheme of things, I don't want my government to be in charge of my protection. I will take my chances, thank you.

Also very shameful to really contemplate how far we have strayed from the constitution. Power breeds corruption. I feel like the government is directing this country directly to hell (with or without the hand basket) and the Democrats and Republicans just piss and moan about what is the best way to get there.

And some day somebody somewhere will stop bitching and truly start another revolution.

Comment #54 - Posted by: Sid m36/5'9/175 at November 19, 2010 6:38 AM

Orlando is abandoning the TSA: http://www.examiner.com/libertarian-in-national/florida-airport-to-opt-out-of-tsa-screening

@41 - professionals? Really? "Heads up. Got a cutie for you." Professional, indeed... http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/ezra_levant/2010/11/15/16158116.html

How many of your parents want to see this done to your kids? How is it that what would be considered sexual assault if done by anyone else is considered to be "routine, expected security procedures" when conducted by the TSA?

The Israelis arguably have far more to be concerned about due to terrorist activities on planes than we do, and yet they don't feel compelled to stoop to this level of invasion of privacy to assure the safety of their airline passengers. How many terrorist incidents do they have a year on planes?

And, while we're at it, how many of you who are so highly concerned about airline security still do things like, say, drive cars? You realize that your chances of being involved in a terrorist incident are so infinitesimally small relative to other dangers in the world that you take for granted, right? If you want to be "safe", start thinking about those things instead of this BS...

@31 - doesn't targeting military types as a way to "check off" having done a "random" screening (because it's easier) seem *entirely* against the point, to you? Welcome to government bureaucracy professionalism! Yes, indeed!

@41 - you really think a pat down would've made a difference on 9/11? Considering that the bad guys used steel weapons that would've been picked up had they had them on their person when they went through the metal detector? Really? The weapons were transported in their briefcases and allowed through after X-Ray screening of their carry on baggage (policy at the time). Pat down would've made a *huge* world of difference there. Yeah... right...

@46 - you obviously haven't been hanging around rest day comments for very long... ;-)

Everyone needs to go get one of these! :-D http://www.boingboing.net/2010/11/16/tsa-tee-we-get-to-to.html

Comment #55 - Posted by: Dave Re at November 19, 2010 6:46 AM

Al Qaeda has tried to use bombs in shoes, in underwear, and in liquids to cause passenger planes to crash into American cities. It seems reasonable for the American government to try to prevent these attempts by checking shoes, liquids, and underwear.

I thought that even libertarians believed that protecting the American population from attack by foreign enemies was a primary responsibility of government?

A child that bumps its head will get a CT scan in an emergency room. Children can be scanned in airports - they'll be ok.

Comment #56 - Posted by: mcronrn at November 19, 2010 7:11 AM

Brett Simpson #32

Come on man, not trying to be rude but utilize a little independence. Try the "Contact Us" tab on the home screen. I'm pretty sure there is a direct link for problems with Journal Subscriptions.

Comment #57 - Posted by: warpig at November 19, 2010 7:32 AM

Time to stop being PC in this country and profile the hell out of people who want to travel. Maybe this particular individual should have been scanned, maybe not. I will say that four year olds certainly don't need to be patted down and neither do 70 year old grandmas. Young men of Middle Eastern descent should be patted down because they look just like the terrorists we're fighting and look just like every other jihadist that's trying to bring down our country. They may not like it, but that's just the way it is. Likewise if you have an Arabic name or behave in an erratic manner. This isn't prejudice, it's just reality. Profiling's time is long past.

Additionally, everyone who buys a ticket should be pre-screened at the time of purchase. Based upon behavior patterns, the government can pre-determine what type of person you are based upon buying patterns, travel patterns, where you live, what you drive, and the like. Think that's extreme? Marketers do it all the time and it works. People with a shady past should get greater scrutiny. People who buy tickets at the last minute without a pre-screening should be looked at more carefully. This process doesn't have to start at the airport alone. Make it easier for all of us and focus on the criminals/terrorists instead of subjecting the rest of us to intrusive and excessive, yet relatively ineffective, airport screening.

This isn't to say that everyone should have their bags screened or go through a metal detector, but the screening now with the pat-downs is over the top.

Comment #58 - Posted by: Steve - CF Ocean City at November 19, 2010 7:41 AM

mcronrn #50-

Al Qaeda has also tried using rectums in Saudi Arabia. Should the government check all of those too?

w/f/s link(if your work and family is OK with talking about putting bombs in rectums)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/28/eveningnews/main5347847.shtml

Comment #59 - Posted by: tjo at November 19, 2010 7:50 AM

It seems weird to me that most are missing the bigger picture in regards to airport security.

As crossfitters we take our health into our own hands and use preventative measures like exercise and diet in order to avoid health related issues and the need for harmful medications.

Yet most people on here refuse to look at airport security the way we look at our own health. Extra security, armed guards, wars....etc are just like medication for our bodies. Only necessary because we didnt/don't take the right steps in looking after ourselves.

Comment #60 - Posted by: NWK at November 19, 2010 8:00 AM

Love the California Road Trip vids! It's cool to see the Amazing athleticism, what's cool is the honesty about athleticism that Castro points out--even though him and Lipson are friends, he points out that he has deficiencies in his 10 general physical skills, namely cardiovascular respiratory endurance and stamina, at the expense of strength. I've been watching Lipson closely because I am wanting to jump on the strength train, but it seems from the vids, his performance at the games, and some of the banter (Robb, " I could have done more box jumps, but Lipson slowed me down) (Castro:" I didn't want him at the IMG, thought he would gas.) that lead me to think that Lipson, for all his prowess and due props is a Specialist, not a Generalist, and isn't the embodiment of elite Capacity that is displayed by the Matt Chans, Robb Orlandos, and Chris Speallers, Austins et al... But Damn! Is he strong!

Comment #61 - Posted by: Trent at November 19, 2010 8:53 AM

JUST MY FEELING, BUT IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER
WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE PEOPLE WILL DO ANYTHING FOR MONEY.
OLD LADIES, WHITE, BLACK , ORANGE , BLUE
WHOEVER. I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD BE SCANNED.

Comment #62 - Posted by: PETE at November 19, 2010 8:58 AM

I have metal implant in my hip, which sets off the alarm. Get patted down every time. Not really a big deal; in no way feels like a sexual assault--I mean give me a break with that. The delay is annoying, but understandable--I could be carrying a metal weapon because I tripped the alarm. What else would you have government do?

Comment #63 - Posted by: blades at November 19, 2010 9:28 AM

need more private pilots :-)

Comment #64 - Posted by: roden at November 19, 2010 9:45 AM

If people think that randomly scanning/patting one out of every ten people no matter who they are makes flying any safer we as a nation have bigger problems than that of terrorism.

Oh by the way you guys with the crotch jokes......grow up.

Comment #65 - Posted by: Bob at November 19, 2010 10:04 AM

lol, no1's talking about crossfit... go QQ on the forums

Comment #66 - Posted by: PPSP at November 19, 2010 10:38 AM

Does anybody get that these screening measures--unilaterally decided by TSA, not "the government," not legislated by "the Congress," not voted on by "the people," and not enacted by "the President"--these unilaterally decided screening measures give anti-US terrorists EXACTLY what they want to see....a restriction of personal freedom and liberty. Moreover, these measures acheive EXACTLY the fundamental aim of terrorism...to use means that induce terror among a population, causing infighting and irrational responses that ultimatly lead to the change the terrorists desire...either by capitualtion or by self-destruction that achieve the terrorist's aims for them! Notice how this didn't happen until after the recent Congressional elections???That's not to say airport security isn't an essential ring of our layered security approach....but what trigger/threat/indicator precipitated the unilateral change? The DHS color-system remains the same! Unless there is a threat stream regarding 6,7, and 39 year old blond girls and women conducting airborne suicide attacks on US soil, then I will not stand passively while strangers feel up my family...and then joke about it. We simply won't fly. This is a TSA power play...it is absolute power corrupting absolutely....and it legitimizes and enables Al-Qaeda cells worldwide.

Comment #67 - Posted by: pb at November 19, 2010 10:39 AM

Does anybody get that these screening measures--unilaterally decided by TSA, not "the government," not legislated by "the Congress," not voted on by "the people," and not enacted by "the President"--these unilaterally decided screening measures give anti-US terrorists EXACTLY what they want to see....a restriction of personal freedom and liberty. Moreover, these measures acheive EXACTLY the fundamental aim of terrorism...to use means that induce terror among a population, causing infighting and irrational responses that ultimatly lead to the change the terrorists desire...either by capitualtion or by self-destruction that achieve the terrorist's aims for them! Notice how this didn't happen until after the recent Congressional elections???That's not to say airport security isn't an essential ring of our layered security approach....but what trigger/threat/indicator precipitated the unilateral change? The DHS color-system remains the same! Unless there is a threat stream regarding 6,7, and 39 year old blond girls and women conducting airborne suicide attacks on US soil, then I will not stand passively while strangers feel up my family...and then joke about it. We simply won't fly. This is a TSA power play...it is absolute power corrupting absolutely....and it legitimizes and enables Al-Qaeda cells worldwide.

Comment #68 - Posted by: pb at November 19, 2010 10:39 AM

Does anybody get that these screening measures--unilaterally decided by TSA, not "the government," not legislated by "the Congress," not voted on by "the people," and not enacted by "the President"--these unilaterally decided screening measures give anti-US terrorists EXACTLY what they want to see....a restriction of personal freedom and liberty. Moreover, these measures acheive EXACTLY the fundamental aim of terrorism...to use means that induce terror among a population, causing infighting and irrational responses that ultimatly lead to the change the terrorists desire...either by capitualtion or by self-destruction that achieve the terrorist's aims for them! Notice how this didn't happen until after the recent Congressional elections???That's not to say airport security isn't an essential ring of our layered security approach....but what trigger/threat/indicator precipitated the unilateral change? The DHS color-system remains the same! Unless there is a threat stream regarding 6,7, and 39 year old blond girls and women conducting airborne suicide attacks on US soil, then I will not stand passively while strangers feel up my family...and then joke about it. We simply won't fly. This is a TSA power play...it is absolute power corrupting absolutely....and it legitimizes and enables Al-Qaeda cells worldwide.

Comment #69 - Posted by: pb at November 19, 2010 10:39 AM

Does anybody get that these screening measures--unilaterally decided by TSA, not "the government," not legislated by "the Congress," not voted on by "the people," and not enacted by "the President"--these unilaterally decided screening measures give anti-US terrorists EXACTLY what they want to see....a restriction of personal freedom and liberty. Moreover, these measures acheive EXACTLY the fundamental aim of terrorism...to use means that induce terror among a population, causing infighting and irrational responses that ultimatly lead to the change the terrorists desire...either by capitualtion or by self-destruction that achieve the terrorist's aims for them! Notice how this didn't happen until after the recent Congressional elections???That's not to say airport security isn't an essential ring of our layered security approach....but what trigger/threat/indicator precipitated the unilateral change? The DHS color-system remains the same! Unless there is a threat stream regarding 6,7, and 39 year old blond girls and women conducting airborne suicide attacks on US soil, then I will not stand passively while strangers feel up my family...and then joke about it. We simply won't fly. This is a TSA power play...it is absolute power corrupting absolutely....and it legitimizes and enables Al-Qaeda cells worldwide.

Comment #70 - Posted by: pb at November 19, 2010 10:39 AM

Doh, spam, my bad. Will punish myself in gym this afternoon as payment.

Comment #71 - Posted by: pb at November 19, 2010 10:40 AM

I'm a Marine w/ deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, and combat in both places. So pls spare me the "America, love it or leave it" responses. I do love it, have sacrificed for it, and will do so again. But not in line at the airport.

Comment #72 - Posted by: pb at November 19, 2010 10:45 AM

Rest Day

As rx'd.

Comment #73 - Posted by: Chris at November 19, 2010 10:47 AM

Why should I have to feel like I'm a terrorist until proven innocent? I mean, isn't that exactly opposite what our form of justice is supposed to be about?

It doesn't make me feel a bit safer. I'm active military, have been vetted multiple times for a clean background, and have been places that could easily kill me. I don't feel being treated with suspicion back home makes me safer. And it certainly doesn't make me proud.

Why are we spending so much money on a measure that can't even be called knee-jerk? 9/11 was TEN YEARS AGO. And how many planes over those ten years have been hijacked by terrorists in areas that don't have even the pre-gropfest security?

Seems like a bunch of theatre to protect against an awefully small statistical chance of danger. Personally, if my group tried an attack with the intent of surprise along with the damage it caused, I'd pick another route next time. You know, to keep the surprise aspect.

I apologize in advance for my lack of eloquence tonight; I've been reading a lot on this (and other things) and frankly, I'm frustrated.

Hound

Comment #74 - Posted by: hound at November 19, 2010 10:53 AM

Why do some people always feel the urge to add some type of statement about why I have to do something or think something because soldiers, etc. are dying for my rights and liberty? I remember when I was in AF I got into a debate with someone about the value of being there and his response was, "good people are dying here and you're bashing their patriotism and valor with your attitude...."

Why is it called public transportation if it's only a priviledge?

I like the Ben Franklin quate mentioned earlier... makes sense to me.

Comment #75 - Posted by: Chris at November 19, 2010 10:59 AM

wow guys! On italian main tv channel for the first time crossfit is on the news!awesome!for me and for everyone here in my country that started to train this way time ago!we're getting stronger day by day!

Comment #76 - Posted by: danny it cg at November 19, 2010 11:09 AM

Good picture. Good links. Nothing wrong with public debate on this issue. Pictures will get out again. Yes it's invasive. No I don't like it and I don't think it's economically or national-security effective or efficient.

But then again it's about defense in depth, not absolute impenetrable point defense. The hunting bad guys in Yemen and Paki is just the furthest of our defenses - then it gets more and more serious til the final defense is the average guy who notices that the passenger next to him is trying to light something on fire.

These scanners are a legit tool in that defensive arsenal. We'd be fools not to use them. Health risks? Sure, let's get some more studies on it. Pilots? Dunno - I can see terrorists being told to go get jobs as commercial pilots so they can smuggle stuff in for others to use.

Comment #77 - Posted by: Pär Larsson at November 19, 2010 12:21 PM

Nice pic nick...i remember when you sent me that a few months back and said one day that will be featured on the main page...looks like you made it...now its time to make that a tee

Comment #78 - Posted by: Dave M at November 19, 2010 12:22 PM

Made up yesterday's WOD -
Hang power cleans 3-3-3-3-3-3-3
80-85-90-95-100-105-110(1)

Then did a workout from CF One World -
5 rnds. of:
10 box jumps 20"
25 double unders
6:35


Comment #79 - Posted by: Carole F/52/5'6"/133 at November 19, 2010 12:47 PM

The problem here is not only with TSA. It's the whole "worst case scenario" method of policymaking that exists in every federal agency right now. It encourages microscopic focus on extreme, unlikely scenarios while disregarding big picture strategy-making. It limits rational debate because the conversation becomes far too polarized. Debates about security no longer force two-way concession, it's all become singularly focused.

If one says, "I believe the worst case scenario is a terrorist developing a small plastic explosive that contours in a way to hide along their body undetectable by pat down or metal detector," then policymakers react trying to ensure they can stop this certainly possible, but unlikely attack on our aircraft. Meanwhile they disregard all 4th amendment arguments in the name of public safety.

We need policymakers and a populus that understands that living in a country that values freedom comes with some inherent risk. We can't stop all worst case scenarios, nor should we try to. We should have rational discourse about what kinds of security threats are most likely, and what level of security is necessary to find the balance between safety and acceptable risk. To be too safe is to lose too much freedom.

Comment #80 - Posted by: Matt D at November 19, 2010 2:07 PM

This won't be solved until we get past the whole "Taboo" about profiling. There are an endless list of "things" to look for, while there are a limited amount of profiles for terrorists. When they grope an already upset 3 year old, make a guy in a walker take his shoes off, force a kid to remove his leg braces and refuse to use simple common sense against "unreasonable searches" (4th amend)it's time for people to take a friggin' stand. Israel, the highest value target for terrorists, has no such political correctness in their approach to this issue. We'd better get past our hyper-sensitivities and deal with the issue at hand or we're going down the toilet. The best article I've read so far is linked below. I hope you enjoy.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/253550/don-t-touch-my-junk-charles-krauthammer

Comment #81 - Posted by: Chris at November 19, 2010 2:28 PM

For those that have or are serving in the military I commend you; you are true patriots. However, why must you always feel the need to post your resume? In my humble opinion the only people who should be prefacing their post with their employment experience in this thread are TSA employees, radiologists, and proctologist. Yahtzee!

Comment #82 - Posted by: DC at November 19, 2010 2:46 PM

800m x 4

3:00, 2:56, 3:14, 3:11

rest 5 hours

hang power clean 3-3-3-3-3-3-3

115-125-135-145-115-165 (fail 3rd rep)-155-155
total=2955
did not let go of bar between reps

Comment #83 - Posted by: Quinn McCutchen M/41/150/5'10" at November 19, 2010 3:00 PM

The Tub Stackers Association (TSA) has never caught a terrorist and probably never will. This is a big step in the creep toward a police-state. Kudos to those who recognize it for what it is: overreaching. How is it that TSA fails to find 50% of weapons in their own security tests? This measure will not stop the "professional terrorist". It's ineffectual. Intelligence measure are the key to stopping them. Again, no pat-down can detect a rectal bomb.

Comment #84 - Posted by: InfidelSix at November 19, 2010 3:31 PM

I wonder if the biometric body scanner data could be linked to facial recognition devices and to the backscatter radar vans (see through walls) that the DHS is putting into place? Maybe the heavy handed pat down procedures are there to force more people into giving up their biometric data by opting to go through the scanners.

Comment #85 - Posted by: john at November 19, 2010 3:45 PM

Ronin, InfidelSix, and some of you others know whats up. To those of you that think the TSA and the government is trying to find terrorists, you need to open your eyes. The so called "War on Terror" is not a war waged against terrorists. Its a war waged against American citizens. America is becoming more and more of a police state every day. I for one will not fly until these procedures are changed. People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.

Comment #86 - Posted by: Ryan Slanoc at November 19, 2010 4:07 PM

The last few comments win. And I feel much better after reading them.

Comment #87 - Posted by: adamk at November 19, 2010 4:17 PM

800m runs x 4

3:00, 2:56, 3:14, 3:11

rest 5 hours

hang power clean 3-3-3-3-3-3-3

115, 125, 135, 145, 155, 165 (failed 3rd rep), 155, 155
total=2955
did not let go of bar between reps

Comment #88 - Posted by: Quinn McCutchen M/41/150/5'10" at November 19, 2010 4:18 PM

That's pretty cool that Rob Orlando makes those videos to update his fans on his personal undertakings. I know that Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal do the same thing on Facebook. Perhaps many other Crossfit athletes should do the same, it would let their fans stay up to date on the people they admire, as well as provide tips to emulate in their workouts and lives.

Comment #89 - Posted by: adrian at November 19, 2010 4:25 PM

adamk, I thought yours, as well as others, were right on target. FTR, I believe the gov't DOES want to catch terrorists if possible, but priority #1 is CYA and persisting their budgets. Secondly, the gov't/TSA is seemingly more concerned with putting on security theater than providing meaningful security. Cynical, I admit, but experience tells me this is a solid bet.

To clarify, I recognize the need for both security and protection of 4th amendment rights. Striking the correct balance is entirely dependent on the situation. I have no issue with scanning or pat-down if there is a good reason for it - this is analogous to a warrant requirement. Merely buying a plane ticket does not meet that requirement and is not nearly enough, IMO, to be subjected to these new procedures. If I were PROFILED as a suspect individual, then it may be appropriate. It cannot be the norm though.

I wouldn't say the "War on Terror" is a "War on the American people" though. But a analogy can be drawn to the war on drugs which HAS been a War on the American people IMO. That analogy is that they are both a tremendous waste of money, ineffectual, and overreaching to the point of abuse.

Thx and have a great WOD

Comment #90 - Posted by: InfidelSix at November 19, 2010 5:01 PM

When I joined Army SOF we had a war plan for the Soviet Union. Being SOF we were concerned with the Internal Security TTP's of the Soviet Union. We are going to surpass them shortly. Now I have not defended this country for 20 plus years for that. I have defended the Constitution for all US citizens. I believe before any US citizen loses any liberties some valley in some far off country needs to turned to glass. I am not a citizen of the world. I would never fight for that. I defend the US Constitution and all that it give to US Citizens.

Comment #91 - Posted by: john at November 19, 2010 5:49 PM

24 / M / 5'9" / 135lbs

Complete as many rounds as possible in 20 minutes of:
30 second Handstand hold (against wall)
30 second Squat hold
30 second Tuck-sit hold
30 second Chin over bar hold

5 rounds plus 30 sec HS plus 30 sec squat

Comment #92 - Posted by: BC at November 19, 2010 8:37 PM

I have a prosthetic leg from serving proudly over seas serving in the marines! It happened four years ago and everytime I fly I have to go through the whole security check! Yes including a "junk check" You don't see me complaining it's just there job!

Comment #93 - Posted by: Ben at November 19, 2010 9:10 PM

John,
Why would you never fight as a citizen of the world? Are you only concerned about people wearing your colours (Red, White, and Blue)? Patriotism isolates you as a human being. It artificially creates a distinction between you and another human being. Propaganda plays on your differences and teaches to hate and kill and wage war. The more you look at other cultures the more you will see we are really the same we just have been conditioned to different beliefs and behaviors. You could just as easily been raised as "one of them". We should be protecting global resources instead of building empires.

Comment #94 - Posted by: Paul at November 19, 2010 9:51 PM

Last time I flew I was asked to walk through the full body scan. I refused for health reasons and had to submit to a full body pat down. It was no big deal. The guy doing it was very respectful, and he did not touch my penis.

Comment #95 - Posted by: KBAR at November 21, 2010 7:13 AM

F/40/5'6"/145

5K: 27:52

Comment #96 - Posted by: mom to five at November 22, 2010 5:15 AM

20 pullups
30 pushups
40 situps
50 air squats

14:56 Rx

Comment #97 - Posted by: MNinKC at November 29, 2010 2:51 PM
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