March 12, 2010
Special Agent Salembier, NCIS, Camp Delaram, Afghanistan.
"If You Build It..." with CrossFit Highlands Ranch, a CrossFit Journal preview video [wmv] [mov]
The Women's Events from the 2010 CrossFit Games Alabama Sectionals, by CrossFit Again Faster - video [wmv] [mov]
Ludwig van Beethoven, Symphony No. 6 in F major (Op. 68) - Listen
Read "How the Inbred Lab Mouse Helps Reprogram the Human Genome" by Gary Wolf, Wired Magazine.
Consider and post comments on March 16, the next rest day.
Posted by lauren at March 12, 2010 5:00 PM
Loving the rest day... Thanks coach!
Chest...to bar pull-ups. Nice!
Man I love Crossfit Women! F'in Sexy!
Have to agree with J Nice Pic
Good inspiration before my workout...
uh, Special Agent Salembier could probably touch her chest to the bar without doing a pull-up... nice
I'm a wife, mother and pregnant again and even I think she's smokin' hot. It's pictures like these of strong women I love seeing on the main page. Awesome choice, Lauren!
Lovin' the Ludwig van Beethoven right now. And agree with all of the above, beautiful women with a lovely piece of steel. See any of you at the Oregon/Idaho sectionals this weekend?
Haha funny comments and awesome pic!
Forget Beethoven. Listen to Felix Mendelssohn.
That may be the hottest crossfit picture ever !!
That may be the hottest crossfit picture ever. Girls with guns OMG !!
crossfit & beethoven? no better combination...except crossfit and mendelssohn, or crossfit and stravinsky, or...
That is the sexiest thing I have ever seen. A beautiful women working out while packing heat. I think I'm in love.
Gotta' agree with #9! Sweet.
Clean it up guys! Goodness?!#?!#
One of the more funnier threads. #9 is my fav so far.
It's cool to see one of Beethoven's symphonies on here.
1. CrossFit women are the hottest!
2. @ #20...really?....REALLY? There is not one legitimate argument that can substantiate that claim.
3. Chicks with guns are hot so your statement is doubly nullified.
Anyone know who the artist on the Alabama Sectional vid is?
Sometimes I think rest days are the hardest...I just want to keep going
To USN (Comment 20)
And what information would you base your argument on. I've been working with women in a combat zone every day for the last 10 months, and most of them perform just as well and admirably as their male counter parts. Let's leave the sexist gender stomping of what women should or should not do out of this forum.
Agree with #17 and #24.
Stay classy, gents.
Normally I am doing something even on rest days but I've earned this one off.
I do have a question open to the floor. If we train for the unknowable and unknowing (paraphrase), why do we warm up? If we were to, say, get into a mugging situation, the mugger isn't going to let us get a 5 min warm up session before he attacks.
Is there a benefit to not always warming up before a WOD?
1. The American people seem to have adjusted pretty well to losing female Soldiers in combat. I don't think this argument holds water anymore. 2. There are plenty of instances of women performing heroically in intense combat in the past several years. I've seen female MPs throw down with the best of them. Women manage to pass SERE school just fine, on a regular basis, so the argument of "mental stability and emotions under fire and extreme duress" doesn't pass the test either.
3. Hygiene in the field? Do you mean like the invasion of Iraq which involved hundreds of females who didn't have a shower for weeks, along with their male counterparts? I don't think this argument holds water either.
4. Pure physical strength...sure. Men are stronger than women. True.
But...your other arguments don't pass the truth test anymore. They have been proven wrong by many women over the past several years.
A human being decides to serve her country and try to better herself at the same time and people go ape****. I'm thinking her courage and dedication makes her admiring and supporting.
sere school is a joke, they should make an all women unit like the russians in ww2, I heard those gals were B.A.
No she is not hot. She is a Special Agent for a reason.That reason is not to take pictures and place them on OPEN SOURCE.
just saying, past 3 wods were awesome
Special Agent Salembier, Constable Drew Howard is in love with you ;) Get them pull ups in!
I served with the Royal Marines in the UK which is male only, but I think that if a woman can pass the tests that make men good enough then they must also be good enough. Almost every day I see a vid on here of women doing extreme physical tasks which I know a lot of non Crossfiting men could not do. I would have rather had a crossfit girl by my side than an unfit male fact.
#35 How does your obvious dislike for opsec violations make her not hot. She could be handing out crypto and nominal roles of JTF2 Assaulters to the Taliban and she'd still be hot.
In the context of the previous rest day's "consider and post..." article, my response to the female-in-combat argument would be that the potential risks that USN and USMC espouse would be overshadowed by the potential benefits of women in combat. Men and women process information differently and make decisions in different ways. Who knows what a new perspective would do for combat units? Ride the tide of change, gentleman....
These are some SAD comments already today...Just SAD...pull your heads out "gentlemen".
I love anyone who posts on here and hides behind a fake e-mail too...gutsy...
#34 Don't forget. Who the hell does a workout with a slung M4. lol
That being said......... Still a very nice picture!
Has anyone else noticed that the # numbers have been messed up on this board for a while? When someone says "hey #x - blah blah" and then #x either doesn't make any sense in context or even comes later down the page? It's ruining my life! :)
I patroled Delaram, Afghanistan in 2006-2007 a lot. We were NOT bless to have anything like that in the entire province. Actually she could possibly have been the looking thing in that area.
great video of the alabama women. i knew there was a reason i like southern girls. nice picture too. some of you guys on here take things waaaay too seriously.
#46- hey rangeriffic what about the seabees man! we're competent enough to carry our own Weapons! you cant forget us! We Build, We Fight. oorah!
#46 - Rangeriffic - You cannot possibly tell what condition the weapon is in from that photo. The safety selector is on the other side of the weapon and the resolution isn't clear enough to see where the selector is pointed on this side. You can't even tell if there is a magazine loaded.
Check your knowledge of the weapon and the Navy before you post. There's more to the Navy than Seals, EOD, and Corpsman that routinely do ground based contingency operations.
For what it is worth - Over here in Iraq, many service members will do pull-ups with their weapons to maintain control of them while getting the benefit of a little extra weight on the pull-up.
Music was great to thanks!
A question to HQ Staff:
Is there a level 1 certified trainer at US Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM)? I pretty sure that the guy running the program here is NOT level 1 cert, but he keeps using the Crossfit name in advertisements. I only bring this up because I have attended one of his classes, and he has NO idea what he is doing. There is NO coaching or corrections on improper form, and I have meet a few people that have been injured as a result.
I really don't think that it is in the best interests of Crossfit to have this person using the name if he is not certified. Please write me at this email address if you need further info.
Can someone share the name/group that did the song on the Alabama sectionals video?
love the listening recommendation coach! excellent choice!
Fist things first, picture is excellent! Not much better then girls with guns.
Secondly, in regards to last rest day’s article, “Life Value and the Paradoxes of Risk” spoken by Charles Sanford:
This speech reminded me of a TED talk I referenced last week also, if you haven’t given it a listen, it’s very interesting and raises some interesting questions about our education system (Sir Ken Robinson – “Schools Kill Creativity”). Both speeches speak to how schools and society fear being wrong. We are taught with the fear to be wrong and in creativity and going against the grain their will undoubtedly be times when you are wrong. This is the risk associated with creative thinking. Unfortunately for our society creativity seems to be making it’s way out of school systems. With instead curriculums geared towards students performing better on standardized tests so that the school and teachers look better. It’s pretty unfortunate but it’s a problem public school systems face. Their needs to be a reevaluation of priorities here but it will take awhile for someone to realize that fewer and fewer original ideas are being created.
I’ve been out of school and working for two years now and in my job I find it difficult to go against the grain. To quote Mr. Sanford: “As a result, you will find yourself having to do things differently from some of the people around you — occasionally, it will be different from most of the people around you. That won't be as easy as it sounds: working your way against the conventional wisdom never is.” I find this very true, there are “standards” in place for everything. “This is the way we have found works best” I’m told. Or my favorite, “but this is the way we’ve always done it”. That doesn’t mean it’s right or the best way, but how will you know if you never explore other options because this is how you’ve always done it. If you don’t evolve, you will fail. It’s particularly difficult as one of only a handful of young employees here being surrounded by guys that have been doing this for 15-30 years to speak up and suggest a new way of doing things. I don’t feel like I’ve earned the right to do so yet. This is something I clearly need to suck up and deal with though. But, I feel that things will get better soon, there is some new blood in the company that is making a push towards a “Lean” initiative. This will replace the awful, paperwork consuming ISO and hopefully encourage new thoughts and ideas to be presented and tried out. Our company recently became employee owned and I think someone realized if we don’t take some chances to make things better, we would eventually fail. The future is bright!
Great listening choice for a rest day. Thanks.
Great vids and pics also!
Also, re last rest day: I loved the risk article. It is accurate that without risk we don't progress. With that in mind, thinking about the last 3 days WOD's pushing myself very hard, risking it, so to speak, well worth and well-deserving of a rest day today.
HQ you never cease to let us down!
Very Nice Pic! As most active/discharged Marines would agree, women don't belong in the infantry or Marine Corps for that matter. However, I'd let this special agent be my walking mattress any day!
To the comment about warming up... I am a firefighter, and we also never get the opportunity to do a 5 minute warm up before responding to a call. However, it seems to me in training you want to condition your body to avoid injury, and the best way to do that is by training properly (which means including a warm up). Thats just my line of thinking, what does everyone else think?
to woodstock69, before your comment gets deleted...
you obviously never served in the military, or you would realize the mental anguish which comes with making the decision to join. Far from being mindless drones, the vast majority of the military are faithful sons, daughters, and friends, who sacrifice a lot to be a part of something greater even in peacetime. Also, a large number of men and women in the armed forces are college-educated; the most pronounced example in my mind would be retired USMC captain Nathaniel Fick, author of One Bullet Away, who graduated from Dartmouth, which i would presume to say is probably much more admirable than your own academic achievements. So enjoy your pot and your hippie babble as you let your hair grow long and march in protest lines and criticize the people who risk their lives so that you can do so.
seriously not sure why my comment wasn't added since it wasn't bad in any way. i'm hoping it was a mistake. either way, nice pic and nice seeing strong women on the .com.
from one military woman to another, rock on!
Finally Beethoven gets a mention in crossfit!
HQ, this would be sad to have restrictions, but maybe there should be a registration first to post to comments so that at least people's real e-mails and names would be associated with a nickname. Kind of sucks for the majority of us to have to wade through anonymous rubbish...and then you probably wouldn't have to delete so many posts on a daily basis...??
Nothing like posing for a photo with all sorts of things wrong in it! There is no CCO on that rail system on the weapon and this individual has several earrings in her ears while serving in Afghanistan??
She sure is smokin though
I've always read the comments but never posted. Till I read yours woodstock69.(#52) You brought a tear to my eye. You obviously do not have what it takes.
"War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he values, more than his own personal saftey is truly a miserable creature who has no chance of being kept free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himslef"
-John Stuart Mill
Woodstock69 your IP address should be banned from this site. You are a disgrace to your nation and I bet to yourself as well. You shouldn't be allowed to do any of the "hero" workouts since you don't have any respect for those who have died for your freedom.
30/ M/ 146/ 5'10
TODAY WOD AS RX'D
WENT TO BED AT 21:00 WOKE UP AT 0700, :), RUNNING A 5K TOMORROW (ST PATRICKS DAY RUN IN COLORADO SPRINGS, CO) THEN DRINK A BEER AT THE FINISH LINE AFTER I BEAT MORE THAN 90% OF THE PEOPLE IN THE RUN THEN WILL DO THE TOMOROW'S WOD. HAVE A NICE REST DAY EVERYBODY.
The comment made by woodstock was obviously a ploy to upset people and create controversy. Do not respond lest you will achieve his or her objective.
Any exersize physiologists out there? I am 58 yo and everytime the wod has jumping in it, like DU's yesterday,the next day my legs feel great. For lack of a better description, they feel"younger". My question- is it a CNS thing or a Type 2 muscle fiber acitvation, etc... Squats, lunges and all are great but don't get the same result. I am tempted to do more but I'll stick with whats called for .
I would like to comment on the fact that I don't think we should send our women into combat, but my Wife won't let me :-)
Bartender! Man hugs and bad English all around!
Go FRAT! Never Quit!
You don't need a CCO if you use iron sites. While the CCO is far better for rapid target acquisition and close quarters, the M4 will shoot without one.
There were pullup bars next to most of the bus stops on my last super FOB and I used to knock out a few pullups anytime I passed them without removing my weapon.
"you obviously never served in the military, or you would realize the mental anguish which comes with making the decision to join. Far from being mindless drones, the vast majority of the military are faithful sons, daughters, and friends, who sacrifice a lot to be a part of something greater even in peacetime. Also, a large number of men and women in the armed forces are college-educated"
Mental anguish? I never felt any anguish when I joined the AF and even less when I transferred to the Army after two years active service. I would experience anguish if I needed to leave the military because it's the greatest job I could ask for. What is a "faithful son?" And I don't like the over use of "sacrifice" when describing my job. I was given a contract to read and sign before I joined the military, I was fully aware of what was being asked of me and knew I would have to deploy (even though I joined pre-9/11), I didn't sacrifice anything.
Finally, a degree from Phoenix Online is not a degree but a gold star on your high school diploma. Never forget that.
Oh, and thoroughly enjoyed the Arnold highlight video, especially the stud at 2:56, nice rowing! (hint, that's me)
Re: Ludwig - really impressive work, esp. for a college orchestra - go Skidmore! It will never replace my treasured von Karajan recording (on vinyl), but considering this is a bunch of kids and not professionals, nice work.
As a former RC(S) Engineer branch staffer, the mention of FOB Delaram makes me laugh. The history of the land issues surrounding that FOB would make a beautiful satire, if only they weren't true. I wonder if they've gotten the issues resolved yet or if the Marines are just cracking on?
For all the issues about Females in the military/combat arms, didn't we already hash that out last year during a rest day? http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/004882.html
If you want women to be able to serve in a combat arms MOS then the physical standards for males and females should be exactly the same.
Not sure why my last comment was deleted? I just proposed a registration before the ability to comment so that there is a little less anonymity and possibly more self-control when posting here.
Greg #58, several earrings is not always wrong...
Did yesterday's du/pu/sq clean WOD.
Results posted there.
Hey guys, I just started crossfit and have a question about scaling. Is it better to do the weight as RX'd and do less reps, or to drop the weight? Take the wednesday workout for example (10 rounds, 135#deadlift/15 pushups) About half way through I had to start splitting up the deadlifts. Should I have just dropped some weight to maintain the 15 reps without stop instead?
Re: Rest day discussion
Crossfit pretty much says it all, being against mainstream and giving back so much. What if HQ gave in to all the bad press? Love crossfit! The military as well risking much and giving much. Thank you sooo much! What if?
Why post a picture of a federal agent in a war zone? With her name and agency no less.
Definitely my favorite Pic from the main site thus far.
Keep smokin' those pull ups Specialist.
#82. I don't think the erasures were intentional. I was one of the first 10 folks to comment and IMHO it wasn't the slightest bit "bad". I think the moderator is having so many to delete that some decent comments are getting caught in the crossfire.
You know, I love the CF Community but sometimes it's almost as if some aren't mature enough to handle certain material. ;)
Frankly, my stomach gets tied up in knots when I see a photo on the mainsite of a military person with a job where inconspicuousity is needed, and then their name, rank, unit, and full-blown closeup is posted for all of the world to see, to include people who want to kill U.S. servicemen and women. Perhaps the camp where the young lady is stationed has an internet cafe' and a local insurgent who works on that camp now has a new mission...(shudder)...
Although I didn't really care for the uncivil tone of Woodstock69, I kind of have to agree in an indirect yet distantly collegial way: Are there many things worth fighting and dying for more than oil? I can't put manifest destiny in my car, M-1 Abrams, MRAP, airliner, ambulance, fire truck, etc.
Although I'm a Yank, I'd also fight and possibly die to support Midnight Oil, which was one of the most overlooked bands in history, and I say that because few people know that the band's best music was made before the "Diesel and Dust" album.
What the heck was I talking about again?!
Comment #81 is offensive with the use of the word "retard." I'm not being sarcastic.
I was debating on laying down a comment about Wades & the others reply to USMC0341... But then I figured out that since you don't have any idea what you're talking about in the first place, my words wouldn't benefit you and would end up falling on def ears...
...That pic is hot though.
Beethoven on the Main Site, BADASS!
Get some, Go again!
#43, I agree...great job on the video...
Even more importantly, did you see the air on those Burpees!?!?!?=o)
Sandford describes what I would say is the philosophical basis of the crossfit business model.
Taking risks and bringing about change. When Crossfit started, the WODs were very different and using free weights instead of machines would make some trainers freak.
Not getting greedy or controlling. The hoops HQ makes you jump through, and the control they impose once you're a functionning afiliate from what I understand is quite minimal. Compared to a normal franchise, the costs to the head office are miniscule.
There are more similarities between what I've seen of the Crossfit model and from the article, but this is enough to prove my point to a first order approximation.
Wagner, Mahler, Richard Strauss - crank 'em up and get some apocalypse....NOW!
You should seriously consider deleting all comments on here that do not pertain to the WOD or someone asking advice about an exercise or commenting on the articles that are with the WOD. I check the comments section once in a blue moon and it's passed pathetic. The information provided here is free of charge and if the users don't like their comments deleted, they should go somewhere else. Some are probably mistakenly deleted, but many more should be deleted. After a while it would work itself out. A little respect on all fronts isn't too much to ask for what you've provided and continue to provide.
A quick suggestion for those who have concerns w/ #'s not matching after they're posted, etc. If you want to refer to a post, just use their screen name instead of the #....the name will remain the same regardless of any "shuffling."
Yeah, the information here is free, and if people don't like reading the comments, they should go somewhere else! Oh, wait, that was you calling the kettle black, wasn't it?
People need to quit getting so excited about posting someone's name on the intarweb. Special Agent doesn't mean she's SFOD-D. It's like when people got so excited about the Ranger platoon with the faces not blurred out. Hell, the College Station, TX police department has people called "special agent."
I find it disheartening to see the number of misogynistic comments in today's posts. I almost never post on the main page but I am disgusted by the way people feel they can make comments like #53 "walking mattress" or #69 "spits or swallows". Funny, these comments never get posted about non-military women. Grow up, quit hiding behind anonymity and figure out why you are so insecure you need to cut down a woman who is just doing her job.
I am familiar with the agency mentioned in the post.... I'm not sure she is a "special agent." She might be affiliated with the agency in a different function .. i.e a support person. If she was legit.. she would not have allowed her name and face to be posted.. especially in a war zone. I think we might have a "wanna be" in our house, or she was wrongly identified as a special agent.
#1- Yes, she's HOT
#2- OPSEC was effed up here. Bad move on her part.
#3- Perhaps 1 out of 1000 women could move and shoot with the infantry....what has me worried is the standards being lowered in order for them to go into direct combat. If you could guarantee this wouldn't happen, then bring them in. Problem is that for Airborne School and other formal schools, there are two diff standards for men and women on the zero day PT test. Why aren't wonem up in arms about this!?
#4- I have never seen M4 that clean down-range, in my life. This was definitley a silly photo OP. Body Armor pull-ups would have been more realistic!
So, not sure who remembers me, but that's cool. I've been out of the crossfit game for almost a year (so embarrassing!) I don't know what happened, before I knew it that year had left me! anyway, I started watching a p90x commercial and almost purchased it! then I was like "you know Erin, what exactly are people saying about the difference between p90x and crossfit". Even though this is an old question, I haven't ever really thought about it. I looked up an old crossfit forum from 2008 and just reading it made me miss crossfit so much!!!! I'm ready to get back in the game! Screw getting ripped, get me fit again!!!
oh, and for the opsec thing... the cf website always has pics of male marines and such in the desert doing crossfit poses so why is just this one pissing everyone off? Also, she's not a military member, she's NCIS.
I do agree about not disclosing names for those in harms way though. But I always have, not just this particular woman.
"Helen", details there. 13:35 PR
Of course I remember you, welcome back!
Nice PR brother, way to go!
Women are great for bringing out the best in a good man. Let's keep America free, and let's keep our women out of harms way.
Hey SailorErin, welcome back. Psyched to "see" you.
Hope they post tonights workout out soon... i'm getting anxious...
Pete - I'm with you, how can women not be up in arms about the different standards for physical fitness?! Its not the only contention, but it sure is one of the bigger ones. If it was settled on one standard whether man or women, that would pave the way for women to serve in the same areas and capacity as men. Yet I haven't heard one woman bring this up (even when this all came up about a year ago on here), mostly what I hear is "they should let us do it if we want" which won't get you very far. If the standards were set equal however, that would eliminate one the biggest argument points, but for whatever reason I don't hear women jumping on that.
it's interesting when hq posts photos of empowered females how the comments go on this downward sexual spiral inevitably leading toward some discussion of double standards but yet even within crossfit there exists a double standard (look at any of the sectional wods for game and the rx'd women's weight). still these strong women athletes are welcomed into the community because of qualities like mental fortitude and an attitude of never surrender that all crossfitters strive for. i believe it is these qualities that elevate crossfit women and help to erase any double standard
Long-time crossfitter (okay only a little over 1 year), first-time poster. Hey HQ any chance we can have 1 board for comments and 1 for ONLY results?
New to this and super sore still from this weeks workouts. Great stuff.
I've served in combat with women, and most of them do very well, even in operations of extended duration outside the FOBs in Afghanistan. Some are firebreathing crossfitters who I would prefer having in my crew over some guys. Some are not. As far as that guy or gal in my truck- I really just want them to be able to take care of me and get me home if something bad happens, and I intend to do the same for them. Man or woman- carry your share of the load, look out for your buddy, and do your job.
That pic just made me want to join the military...
23 / M / 5'9" / 135lbs
3 rounds of
Tuck-sit pull-ups x15
25lb dumbells squat cleans x15
This is the first time I've done double-unders as prescribed. It was interesting how each exercise was brutal in its own way.
Dang! what freakin fob do you have to do PT with your m-4 strapped on?
Even more beautiful in person....Thanks for talking with me in the Chow Hall(Camp Leatherneck). I would love to talk more and maybe do the WOD next time we see one another.
I am a Marine MSgt, who deployed with SA Salembier during that timeframe and later (Oct 22 of 2011) married this amazing woman. She is even more intelligent than she is beautiful, which pretty much makes her perfect. I only read a handful of the above comments, but wanted to finally wanted to chime in. The pull up was legit as is she, in everything she does.
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