October 31, 2008

Friday 081031

Rest Day

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Pumpkins by: CrossFit Fredericton, Hudson Valley CrossFit, Body Armor, Adam Kayce, Alanna Trotter and Kim Carris, and Mark Messina


"Halloween Throwdown", CrossFit by Overload and US CrossFit - video [wmv] [mov]



"Is Intellectual Property the Key to Success?", by Jeffrey A. Tucker - The Ludwig Von Mises Institute

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Posted by lauren at October 31, 2008 5:35 PM
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HAPPY HAUNTING!!! :)

TOODLES!! :)

Comment #1 - Posted by: Fit Mom in CT (F38/125/5'3") at October 30, 2008 7:41 PM

Wooo!

Comment #2 - Posted by: Tim: 29/m/5'8/155 at October 30, 2008 7:41 PM

I'm sitting here dreading the Angie I owe tonight. This rest day looks really nice. Gotta work OT at 0400 tomorrow so the rest tomorrow night is gonna feel really good.

Happy Halloween all!

Comment #3 - Posted by: Scott Andresen at October 30, 2008 7:44 PM

Day 4 of my 100 Pushies for 50 days. I'm SORE!

When I was doing my push-ups tonight my very low back started cramping up. Someone thinks it's because my abs are weak but I don't know. I hope it stops.

I'm going to be Thomas the Tank Engine when I take little Boo trick or treating.
Then a Bog Booty Girl at the Parade. I'm stuffin' my LuLus. I'm going to have more junk in my trunk than JLo.

Happy Halloween everyone!

Comment #4 - Posted by: AllisonNYC at October 30, 2008 7:50 PM

Just got my first tear need advice on how to treat it. Any advice would be appreciated

Comment #5 - Posted by: ryan and ashley in lake charles at October 30, 2008 7:51 PM

Video was frickening awesome and looked like a lot of fun, loved the good vs. evil theme. Keep up the good work.

Comment #6 - Posted by: DJ585 at October 30, 2008 7:53 PM

I caught hell for being on here in my bra. Now some guy shows up on my screen sportin' nothing but his bush! You guys better dish out some of what I got or I'm going to be ticked!! It's only fair! ;)


I think it's hysterical that little boys grow up to be men who STILL want to be superheros :D Cute.

Comment #7 - Posted by: AllisonNYC at October 30, 2008 8:02 PM

Hahaha Greg! You made the cut to be in the main site WOD photo hahaha! Nice pumpkin OHS's buddy ;)


Day four is quickly approaching. Allison, I think doing those 200 pushups before Angie messed me up! But like you said, we're only going to get better at them.

Comment #8 - Posted by: Melissa Cvjeticanin CF Mississauga at October 30, 2008 8:02 PM

Was that video someone's idea of an awesome party? Working out like crazy? I saw the beer keg, but I didn't see anyone drinking out of it.

Comment #9 - Posted by: Dizza at October 30, 2008 8:06 PM

First time dad taking my little bumble bee to a few choice trick or treat spots tomorrow night(for time)... I can't wait.

Comment #10 - Posted by: Jonblaze at October 30, 2008 8:08 PM

#5

How I treat my tears (luckily I don't get too many any more...)

1. First couple of days: Cover with Polysporin and a large fabric bandage (knee and elbow type size) during day and maybe at night.

2. After a couple of days (determined by severity of tear), let the area dry out at night. Trim dead skin with clippers or a razor blade. The razor blades you get in the paint section of Walmart work great. The ones that fit into the "scraper" holder.

3. After 2 or 3 days (or as the area becomes less sensitive) trim the area closer using the razor blade.

4. Perform occasional maintenance using the razor blade to prevent the callouses from getting too thick. The thicker they become, the greater the chances of tearing off.

5. Be careful with the razor, they are very sharp and can cut deep, fast.

Comment #11 - Posted by: Ronnieboy at October 30, 2008 8:08 PM

Much needed rest day

Comment #12 - Posted by: Steven Willis (M/20/5'9"/175) at October 30, 2008 8:10 PM

Agree with #12.

Aloha,

Jordan

Comment #13 - Posted by: 27/m/170...Jordan at October 30, 2008 8:23 PM

Okay, I need some help...
I'm going to be on an airplane or in airports all day on Saturday. Obviously, as I am sure you all will agree this minor obstacle should not mean that I have to take a day off. That would be ridiculous!! Anyone have any suggestions for WODs I could do? I was thinking maybe some sprints on the moving walkways (opposite direction of course), luggage swings/farmers walk with heavy bags (preferably some other persons bags in case I drop them), and dips between two rows of chairs in the waiting areas. I think a WOD IN the airplane might be a bit more difficult to come up with however. Pretty much, tying a rope to the stewardess' cart and doing "cart pulls" down the aisle is about all I have so far. Any suggestions?

Comment #14 - Posted by: JC Veggie M/32/175/5'10" at October 30, 2008 8:26 PM

Rest day is going to be a make up for some self defense training and teaching. Also, I get to take my little girl trick or treating tomorrow night. Now that makes my day. Happy Holloween everyone.

Semper Fidelis and God Bless

Comment #15 - Posted by: Cody Lee Johnson at October 30, 2008 8:30 PM


my shoulders say thank you for rest day.


p.s. i like wonderwoman.

Comment #16 - Posted by: Anders in Philly at October 30, 2008 8:33 PM

I have a quick question on the squat. I have been doing the body squats with my knees coming just below parallel. I have noticed a little soreness and am wondering if this could be from coming to low? Not sure if I should stop when legs are at a 90* angle. Any suggestions, video, or articles would be helpful, thanks.

Comment #17 - Posted by: Chris at October 30, 2008 8:35 PM

good article from LVMI. I just started reading this website a month or so ago after seeing it on the reading list in Ron Paul's book.

Comment #18 - Posted by: ej at October 30, 2008 8:37 PM

Video is awesome, Jordan, great job! In regards to number #9, we did indeed drain an entire keg whilst kickin' each other's asses. Good times were had by all and... careful #16, that's my wonderwoman.

Comment #19 - Posted by: Ro Ro at October 30, 2008 9:16 PM

Wow. Blonde wonderwoman doing Crossfit makes my tummy feel funny.

Comment #20 - Posted by: head at October 30, 2008 9:17 PM

BTW...for those that were curious about the final results in todays video...

...EVIL WON!

Thanks to USCrossFit for hosting a great Halloween bash! Much respect.

Comment #21 - Posted by: Gunny H at October 30, 2008 9:17 PM

Gonna be a busy rest-day for me... Ploughing through two assignments (one of which is now 20 minutes overdue, oops!) and a midterm, and then off to the local Canadian Forces recruiting centre to discuss the ROTP program. I'm also hoping to spend some time at the gym to nail down kipping pull-ups - I don't wanna be a jumper anymore! If anyone has suggestions, I'm all "ears".

Anyway, Happy Halloween everyone. For those of us who will be slamming back a few drinks while wearing absurd costumes: stay safe, and remember that Saturday *isn't* a rest day, hah.

Comment #22 - Posted by: MH at October 30, 2008 9:19 PM

JC Veggie,

Funny stuff, you are truly addicted...as are most of us :)

Comment #23 - Posted by: Rob at October 30, 2008 9:38 PM

Wow, that video was awesome. Looked like a lot of fun, makes me want to join an affiliate.

Comment #24 - Posted by: Matt Meyer at October 30, 2008 9:38 PM

> ...EVIL WON!

So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

Comment #25 - Posted by: TomC at October 30, 2008 9:44 PM

Awesome video jordan!!! I'll spending this halloween at my home in paradise island, trick or treating with superman and spidey.

Comment #26 - Posted by: wonderwomen (ange) at October 30, 2008 10:17 PM

Without intellectual property laws there would be no drug development done by the free market. It costs around $1 billion to develop a novel drug from conception to Phase III drug trials. That cost would never be recouped by the developer without protection for some period of time. It costs a lot to develop a drug, but to duplicate an existing one it costs almost nothing in comparison.

Comment #27 - Posted by: Weston at October 30, 2008 10:30 PM

Did you guys make that song or what? was it saying "dropping plates on your ass bitch"? lol

Comment #28 - Posted by: Quinn 22/f/5'7"/165 at October 30, 2008 10:55 PM

I skipped it yesterday, so I guess I'll go tonight. I love http://crossfit.com/

Comment #29 - Posted by: James at October 30, 2008 11:55 PM

JC Veggie #14

Take a rest! They can actually be beneficial.


If you do really want to work out, I'd be a bit wary of sprinting in airports, that kind of thing is likely to get you shot


Other suggestions: your suitcases are just more bulky kettlebells, so you have a whole slew of stuff right there.


Only exercises I can think of on the plane are maybe some resistance band stuff (if it isn't classed as a weapon), or some kegal and smiling exercises ;P

Comment #30 - Posted by: Greg Hunt at October 31, 2008 1:38 AM

@ #17, Chris

I have actually started going past 90degrees on the squats after reading 'Starting Strength' by Rippetoe. He argues that there's less pressure on the knees when hitting the bottom of the squat lower than 90degrees because you then involve the muscles on the back of your thighs and your ass.

I can strongly recommend the book, it's a good read.

Good luck,

Cesar

Comment #31 - Posted by: cesar_m/28/176/75 at October 31, 2008 3:12 AM

I have to say our pumpkins are the best. I'm not biased or anything! :D

Comment #32 - Posted by: Anthony Bainbridge - CrossFit Fredericton at October 31, 2008 4:00 AM

#5 thanks so much Ronnieboy Its my first tear thanks to Angie. on Pullup number 87 it felt like someting was poking me from the bar. Then on 99 i felt the rip. Completed 100 then looked at my hand and all i could think about was if i could ever do another pull up again. Or any other kind of Crossfit. Push ups sucked also i had to do them with my hands cupped.

Comment #33 - Posted by: Ryan and Ashley in Lake Carles at October 31, 2008 4:16 AM

good call on the kegals #30

Comment #34 - Posted by: Ryan and Ashley in Lake Charles at October 31, 2008 4:17 AM

Although there is some truth in the author's premise (IP is overvalued) there are also clearly some industries (e.g. pharma) where IP protection is necessary (even if not sufficient) for success.


Comment #35 - Posted by: carl at October 31, 2008 4:18 AM

Just when I was making progress getting over my Wonder Woman fantasy...

Comment #36 - Posted by: stud at October 31, 2008 4:27 AM

Finally a halfway decent video I was able to put together! I would love some feedback of what you think, and some feedback from those who actually know how to do this $hit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeFrU7iHjpk
No trick or treating today...training is on!

~J~
Train Hard and Push Through "IT"!

Comment #37 - Posted by: JroCk at October 31, 2008 4:29 AM

The only other aeroplane exercise I can think of is "seat pushing". Using your knees to stop the person in slamming their chair right back, get the person behind you to resist you pushing your seat back.

1-1-1-1-1, for time ;)

Comment #38 - Posted by: Greg Hunt at October 31, 2008 4:35 AM

oh man thats just wrong!! lol. even jack isnt safe from puckie. well thats what happens when you only work out one day a year. ooh rah!!!

Comment #39 - Posted by: Chesty pullup at October 31, 2008 4:36 AM

That was a great video, nice job guys. That Angie was just like a hurricane, it came in fast, and then left me trying to recover over the next few days. You gotta love CrossFit!!

Get Fit, Get Trained & Go Hard!!

Comment #40 - Posted by: Shane at October 31, 2008 4:43 AM

#25 TomC

awesome reference!

"The radar, sir. It appears to be jammed"

"There's only one man would DARE give me the raspberry. LONE STAR"

Comment #41 - Posted by: MJ at October 31, 2008 4:56 AM

M/22/6'3/242

Angie

20:22

Comment #42 - Posted by: Eric Duechle at October 31, 2008 4:56 AM

Where to begin rebutting that article....

1. So the author points out that IP on its own is not the key to success. You also need business acumen. Hardly insightful.

2. He claims that business leaders give too much credit to IP and not enough to ingenuity. Based on what? Studies? Data? My direct experience is that business leaders make calculated cost-benefit analyses before taking action.

3. "The repeal of intellectual property legislation would do nothing to remove from the business its capacity to create...[and]innovate..." Really? You think Elan would pump billions into research to bring MS drugs to market without IP protection? Would their shareholders allow them to do so? Smarter to wait for someone else to innovate and rip them off, no? Or maybe the state could take over research projects? Or is that not where you saw this going....

4. "a world without trademark, copyright, or patents.....would still be a world with innovation....[a]nd...profits". Yep, right again Jeffrey. Profits for people prepared to use someone else's innovation without paying for it. Profits for those willing to trade off the good name of others. Consider a "Glassman Institute of Crossfit Excellence" run by a guy in New York who has never done a WOD or been to a cert. Desirable?

5. Those Bronte Sisters books are very cheap because 50 years from the author's death, the IP protection ends. It's 20 years for drug patents like paracetemol. It works. It's fair. There's a huge public policy argument which says it's better for everyone.

6. I generally resist ad hominem arguments, but that bow tie and goatee combination really doesn't work. That's meant to be constructive. Honestly.

Peace.

Comment #43 - Posted by: J1 at October 31, 2008 5:03 AM

M/26/5'8/152#

As RX'd: Slept in!

Comment #44 - Posted by: Eric at October 31, 2008 5:14 AM

re: IP article

I'm not sure I get why the author feels the need to separate ingenuity and entrepreneurial success from intellectual property rights. Of course the success of the innovator comes from his or her ingenuity and the continued success from entrepreneurial skills.

IP is simply one tool in the process of protecting that hard and laborious work. Much in the same way I pay malpractice insurance. Yes, were it an ideal world I wouldn't need that either but until we have tort reform and develp a society based on integrity and honesty in business endeavors, we will need asset protection. Thats what IP is, asset protection and I'm sure anyone of us with any intellectual property will not attribute our succes to the patent laws.

We would attribute it to all the hard work, not giving up when we failed, and "going back to the drawing board" in developing that asset with which we now are appreciating return on that investment.

Therefore, I agree that in a perfect world we shouldn't need IP, but this "ain't" a perfect world!!

Comment #45 - Posted by: Jay M. in SC at October 31, 2008 5:27 AM

Anyone able to get write down the Workouts from the Halloween throwdown? Here's what I captured:

Workout A (95/75#) - first team to finish 1 pt
100 thrusters
200 squats

Workout B - fastest time 1 pt
Five Rounds
Row (300m/250)
Wall Ball (30/25)

Workout C - first team to finish 1 pt
30 thrusters (95/65)
30 Thrusters (45/30)
60 Squats

Workout D
50 KB swings (55/35)
2 Thusters (95/65)
40 Kb swings
4 Thrusters
30 Kb Swings
8 Thrusters
20 Kb Swings
16 Thrusters
10 Kb Swings

Workout E
Max Reps for:
Time:
5 min Squats
4 min Box jumps
3 min Jumping Lunge
2 Min Kb swings (55/35)
1 min Double Unders

Did I get it right?

Comment #46 - Posted by: Hurricane Robare at October 31, 2008 5:29 AM

#45 Jay M.

Excellent post. I agree wholeheartedly. While I currently have no intellectual property, I do invest in real estate and the idea of not having asset protection in this society is ridiculous. You hit the nail on the head, IP is a tool for protecting the investment, whether that be a tangible asset like an apartment complex or an innovative idea that generates cash flow.
Do the attorneys win with this system...coming and going, but until we "invent" a world without lawsuits, scoundrels, thieves, and the like; we have to live with asset protection!!

Comment #47 - Posted by: bkm at October 31, 2008 6:00 AM

Happy Halloween.

In honour of Halloween I will be partaking in this nightmare:

250m/500m/750m/1k/750m/500m/250m pyramid on the erg. Each piece at or bellow 2k personal best. Rest time between will be double the time it took to complete each piece.

Why eat too much candy and puke on Halloween when you can erg too much and puke instead?

Comment #48 - Posted by: mkr at October 31, 2008 6:07 AM

I am still kicking myself today for not taking my favorite econ prof seriously when he suggested that I go study at the Von Mises Institute.

Good article, maybe Lars Ulrich should read it? The assertion is that through less gov't intervention, more innovation happens as companies and ideas struggle for survival and growth. Would have Metallica have made it through St. Anger and the Black album with no IP? Doubtful. Maybe with Death Magnetic.

This would come at a cost. Without the current corp bailouts, the entire economy would have likely crashed, and it would have been painful for a while. People dont want to deal with the pain, now more than ever.

Comment #49 - Posted by: Chris in NY at October 31, 2008 6:14 AM

I liked the video (especially the guy in the vegetative tutu) but the music was a little over the top....

Comment #50 - Posted by: MDMelissa at October 31, 2008 6:25 AM

great article and interesting. My only real "IP" property is LogsItAll - my first experience ever creating something of my own. I've looked into patents, etc. and each time i've backed off because:
1. too expensive to pursue
2. i'd have to go into great detail about the data structures that run the site
3. i probably wouldn't end up with any protection anyway (too broad an application)

In my case, my only chance at survival is to work relentlessly hard at staying relevant and useful. The basic idea behind the site (universal log and ranking application) could probably be done by anyone looking to waste a few thousand hours and IP law isn't going to save me.

-bp

Comment #51 - Posted by: bill patton - the logsitall.com guy at October 31, 2008 6:27 AM

There's already been some excellent comments on the article, but I did want to touch on two things in greater detail. First, the pharmaceutical industry is very much a beast unto itself, and there are so many ancillary issues in that industry that I hesitate to use it as example or counterexample. Second, in terms of cost benefit analysis, how much profit is lost for a company via knockoffs? I have to assume it outpaces the cost of protecting the brand. Could someone on either side enlighten me further?

Comment #52 - Posted by: RyanPB at October 31, 2008 6:46 AM


I'm disappointed the article didn't mention that the most important "ingredient" in the success of the hypothetical ice cream, was the hypothetical logo, prominently featuring a photograph of Ty Cobb which had been printed originally in the Detroit Free Press in 1915 and is now in the public domain.

Comment #53 - Posted by: Prole at October 31, 2008 6:54 AM

Myself and seven other friends are starting a Fantasy sports company. We have been patenting our idea for almost four years both domesticly and internationally. We recently launched our website www.hotboxsports.com to showcase our intellectual property. Our IP, like crossfit, has potential to make a huge impact on a industy. If we did not protect our property through NDA's and patents then ESPN, Yahoo and CBS would be offering our game. The start-up gets eating up if they do not protect themselves.

Growing any good company takes time. As the CEO always says, "In war you must fortify before taking the first shot".

P.S. the patent is running us in the 100K range
through Winston and Strawn.



Comment #54 - Posted by: pj of hbx at October 31, 2008 7:10 AM

Wow! Great video and Great time. Thanks to US CrossFit and CFO for putting that awesome event on!

Comment #55 - Posted by: Max Fernandez at October 31, 2008 7:16 AM

Mr. Tucker raises some excellent questions in the article. Copyright law is an important aspect of modern society and it is certainly not going anywhere anytime soon. However, I think we may have gone a bit too far in our copyright binge. Of course, it's easy to say we went overboard from my perspective (college student). When you look at the issue from a businesses point of view, it makes sense. As someone mentioned earlier, we don't live in a perfect world.

"The Internet age has taught that it is ultimately impossible to enforce IP." Very important point. This issue has been tied into the greater trend of technological super-empowerment. Are we living in a society whose rules are rendered moot because of technology?

Now, apply this concept of technological super-empowerment to warfare.

Comment #56 - Posted by: Andrew m/21/6'2''/180lbs at October 31, 2008 7:20 AM

500m Row
21/15/9
body weight BP 185
body weight BS 185

15:52

Comment #57 - Posted by: JoeCam at October 31, 2008 7:24 AM

QUICK QUESTION FOR EVERYONE:

WHAT IS THE #AGE FOR THE MEDICINE BALL WHEN DOING WALL BALL? THANK YOU!!!

Comment #58 - Posted by: SCOTT at October 31, 2008 7:37 AM

I've got to actually, for one of the rare times in my life, disagree with this author from the Mises Institute on most of his article.

Intellectual Property is only part of the game, he's right on that. BUT, take this hypothetical situation:

Small company "A" makes ice cream at its 3 chains in town. They make $250,000 in profit for the owners every year, not bad. They want to make it into the big leagues, so they drop $25,000 to develop ten new flavors and do a study on which are the best.

Large company "B" makes ice cream, has a large volume production facility, and has 1800 locations across the country and internationally.

Small company "A" completes their study and brings 2 new flavors to market. Everyone in town goes crazy for them, and they can't make enough of the stuff. They immediately purchase a new manufacturing facility capable of producing five times their current total ice cream volume, and are scheduled to start production there in three months. Additionally, they purchase six new locations and schedule their opening for the same time.

Large Company "B" catches wind of Small Company "A"'s new recipe, purchases moderate quantities of it, and reverse engineers the 2 new flavors so that they can produce it on their own, and sell it at their stores.

Within 3 months, Small Company "A" has opened up their new stores and begun new production, and things are going well.

3 months from that point, Large Company "B" starts producing Small Company "A"'s new flavors and sells them at their locations worldwide. Large Company "B"'s prices are consistently 25-30% below Small Company "A"'s prices, due to their volume production and high sales volume, with their goal of lower margins on higher volume to produce increased profit.

Small Company "A" sees Large Company "B"'s new product that exactly mirrors their 2 new flavors, and sees their sales return to levels they were at previous to their new flavors. 2 months later their sales per location are below where they were before, due to the increase in total stores in the 25 mile radius area.

Within 2 years, Small Company "A" goes out of business because they cannot sustain the cost of running all the new locations.

Had this situation been different, and Small Company "A"'s new recipes been able to be protected from duplication for a period of time (as the US Constitution wisely set out to enable way the heck back in 1789), they could have grown their business to become a large company, and been a direct competitor of Large Company "B", making life better for the consumer.

OR, if the owners of Small Company "A" looked at the political climate and said "We can't guarantee that all our investments won't be wasted, so let's not even spend the $25,000 to develop new flavors". Nobody would have the benefit of the yummy 2 new flavors, and we'd all be worse off (but we wouldn't know it, because they were never invented in the first place).

OR, Small Company "A" could have taken a huge, not-exactly-smart or even possible risk and bought up enough production and new sites to compete with Large Company "B" directly. This is next to impossible for a company like this to receive enough financing to do this, especially in the short time required.

OR, Small Company "A" could have just stayed where they were with their 3 stores, made a few bucks off their new flavors, and then when Large Company "B" makes their new flavors, their sales would just return back to normal. If this were the case, there is no reason for the owners to invent 2 new flavors in the first place, they'd end up losing money overall.

Therefore, it is wise to allow governments to protect intellectual property, though in different ways from physical property.

Comment #59 - Posted by: Matt DeMinico at October 31, 2008 7:38 AM

awsome video

whats the name of the song? i know its disturbed...i need some new music

Comment #60 - Posted by: langera07 at October 31, 2008 7:48 AM

The band is Disturbed, the song is Droppin' Plates. Glad everyone is enjoying the video, we had lots of fun making it. Thanks to US CrossFit for hosting a kick ass WOD party. This is going to be an annual event so next year lets get as many affiliates together in Encinitas, CA as possible. Evil triumphed this year, but I have a feeling that Superman and Wonder Woman are planning a comeback! Thanks for all the support CrossFit!

Comment #61 - Posted by: Jordan at October 31, 2008 7:51 AM

13:55

Comment #62 - Posted by: Austin in Annapolis at October 31, 2008 8:13 AM

Great Video. Looks like you guys were having one hellova a time. Looking forward for the CrossFit phenom to grow here in N. Alabama so we can get some of these "CF socials" going.

Really...CrossFit and Beer. What a great combo!

I ask you this? Is there anything better than a cold Guiness after a hard CF WO???

I think not.

Comment #63 - Posted by: KLowe at October 31, 2008 8:18 AM

I've got a quick question for any Maryland Crossfitters. I will be moving to the Aberdeen area in December. Does anyone have suggestions for a gym that will allow me and my wife crossfit/oly lift? Buying our own equipment really isn't a viable option at this point, so any help would advise would be wonderful. Thanks in advnace!

Comment #64 - Posted by: AFountain_CF Tacoma at October 31, 2008 8:25 AM

Another component this article fails to address is protection to the consumer. Consider a product with a well known trade name that is synonymous with quality and safety. An impostor mimics that product without adhering to the same quality and safety protocol. This creates confusion to the consumer that he/she is purchasing the safe product when actually it is the unsafe product that he/she is purchasing. Likelihood of confusion is the central premise to an unfair competition cause of action, regardless if the trademark is officially registered. It is geared toward protecting profits, but a secondary benefit is consumer protection.

Comment #65 - Posted by: P Ticen at October 31, 2008 8:30 AM

Happy Halloween everyone!

Comment #66 - Posted by: Chris Hames at October 31, 2008 8:31 AM


My heart sinks as I read the times from everyone's Angie yesterday...

Last time I did it in 32:48, jumping pullups, and pushups from knees...

Today, determined to stay on my toes for pushups, my time ran on...

45:40

However, I am happy I finally learned the kip yesterday!!

F/27/170/5'11"

Comment #67 - Posted by: Sharon V CFMB at October 31, 2008 8:34 AM

bkm

Thanks for the comment. I also own investment real estate and while obviously different in many ways, the idea of protecting the income generating asset is the same. We use insurance for that, another racket if you ask me, but you'd be foolish to launch a product or idea worth licensing in todays world without protection. Just another way that my buddies on my legal team get me as you say "coming and going".

P Ticen

Excellent point!

Comment #68 - Posted by: Jay M. in SC at October 31, 2008 8:40 AM

I think Ive been sippin a lil too much kool aid.

Those are the sickest pumpkins ever. We need to see some Pukie costumes

Comment #69 - Posted by: mikey at October 31, 2008 8:46 AM

Happy Halloween everyone.....I told my 4yr old we were trick or treating tonight but @ every house we have to do the same amount of burpees as candy received.....he just looked @ me and laughed..I'm doing it !...Happy Birthday Ramses and Dion!!!!!!!
http://bodyfit4everybody.com/

Comment #70 - Posted by: Bodyfit at October 31, 2008 8:49 AM

Dude, the pukie pumpkin is my favorite! haha.

Comment #71 - Posted by: kento at October 31, 2008 8:54 AM

#17 Chris
#31 is right read "Starting Strength" by Kilgore and Rippetoe. And if you ever get a chance, go to the basic barbell cert. Rip and his crew will definately set you on your way to doing squats the right way. "Recruit your posterior chain" is the key phrase.

Comment #72 - Posted by: IndyEric at October 31, 2008 9:14 AM

as rxd

24 hours

Comment #73 - Posted by: Pete - Decatur, GA at October 31, 2008 9:34 AM

Did "Angie" toay. Finished at 17:10, and set a new PR with no-kip pull-ups at 30 reps! Motivating.

Comment #74 - Posted by: T Schmitt at October 31, 2008 9:46 AM

bkm, Jay M, Matt, et al

I think you all are missing the point of the article! He's not saying that we don't need patents and copyrights in the system that we have created, or that our attorneys and lawmakers have created.

I think he's saying that we could get rid of this system and use a truly free market that allowed competition, product superiority, and service to separate the winners from losers in any given market. Thats the way pure capitalism should work.

With liability insurance, where there would be sooo many fewer lawsuits for the majority of us if we didn't have the "deep pockets" of the policies we carry paying them out. We could save millions on legal fees and development costs for new products by eliminating the "legal red tape" of the copyright process. This would ultimately drive costs down for the consumer and allow the businesses to focus their capital and startup on superior quality and customer service.

Comment #75 - Posted by: CarlG at October 31, 2008 10:09 AM

m/21/155lbs/5'9"

dropped too far off the websites schedule so i will start fresh on monday. did "the mule" today

21-15-9 reps for time:

315# deadlift
chest to bar pull-ups

16:47.50

Kevin Trangone did it also
21/170lbs/5'9"

22:19.60

Comment #76 - Posted by: Patrick Earley at October 31, 2008 10:19 AM

Anybody with an interest, Vets for Freedom is looking for volunteers for phone banks, and a few other things.

Link is here: http://www.vetsforfreedom.org/

If you're some combination of nervous and angry, like I am, this would likely be good therapy.

Comment #77 - Posted by: Barry Cooper at October 31, 2008 10:25 AM

Ooh yuck…I did worse than the last TWO times with Angie…

100 Asst pull ups
100 push ups
100 sit ups, ab mat butterly style
100 squats
= 21:38

Prior: 19:44 (anchored sit ups), 20:31 (unanchored)

Bummer….
Erin

Comment #78 - Posted by: in8girl at October 31, 2008 10:25 AM

I attempted the CrossFit Century Last night...

1 Shot of Beer, 1 Pull Up every minute for 100 minutes.

12 Beers, 100 pull ups and one day later, I feel like death.

Did not quit, and did not throw up. Will never try it again.

Comment #79 - Posted by: Austin McLean - 25 yom - 164 at October 31, 2008 10:37 AM

1st WOD ever
Angie was awesome
as rx'd
21:00 (I'll get better)

Comment #80 - Posted by: Shawn at October 31, 2008 10:38 AM

3 mile run nice pace.
Later, Henry

Comment #81 - Posted by: Henry at October 31, 2008 10:41 AM

m/24/6.1/198

"PT"

2 mile run; 82 sit-ups; 82 push-ups for time.

19 min.

Goal: 17 min.

Comment #82 - Posted by: AaronV at October 31, 2008 10:45 AM

Awesome, I love the talent and effort initiated
to acknowledge Halloween. Very creative. Have a safe and happy halloween. Keep your pets inside.

Best regards,

Marc St.Jules
Stabilizer Crossfit
www.stabilizertraining.com

Comment #83 - Posted by: Marc St.Jules at October 31, 2008 10:54 AM

23:13 as rx'd

Comment #84 - Posted by: DO_it_UP at October 31, 2008 10:54 AM

my gawd!

Honeycrisp apples are the best thing ever created.

Comment #85 - Posted by: klowe at October 31, 2008 10:58 AM

m/29/5'9"/168#

Hit WOD 081022 (5k run) today. Let it be known, I hate to run anything more than a sprint but I thought, hey it can't hurt that bad. I decided to run on the treadmill as time was limited. To make it more realistic I ran the random program (level 5) which proved not too wise! The course ranged from a 2% incline to a 5% incline the whole way, I couldn't have been on the flat for more than 30 seconds! It was a little rougher than intended. I've run 5k's sub 20 before, so my goal was around 20 minutes. A little ambitious this time out!

5k - 24:06.

Comment #86 - Posted by: The Edge_Ross at October 31, 2008 11:20 AM

yeah Honeycrisps are dank

Comment #87 - Posted by: max at October 31, 2008 11:28 AM

#17 Chris

Rip's book is indeed a good one, and I too recommend reading it. That said, there's one thing I'll bet you're doing wrong: are you absolutely certain your knees are tracking over your feet during the descent? If not, you're probably bringing them inside that plane, which puts a lot of force on the ligaments.

Get a buddy to watch you or do them in front of a mirror. If you try to look down and watch yourself, parralax error comes into play and you'll not be accurate in your assessment.

In short, squats properly done should not cause pain.

Comment #88 - Posted by: Mark at October 31, 2008 11:29 AM

Great video. Funny thing, my most prominent memory of it was the chick dressed up as a schoolgirl.

Hahaha....naughty,naughty.

Happy Halloweenie, all.

Comment #89 - Posted by: Mark at October 31, 2008 11:44 AM

m/35/219/5'11

BP
155x12
185x10
205x8
225x6
Inv. LP
395x12
485x12
575x10
665x6
Incl. DBP
55x12
60x10
65x10
65x10
CR
85x35(x5)

Comment #90 - Posted by: Keith M at October 31, 2008 11:59 AM

I am going to do Angie later, but I think I'll just do 80 reps of each. Speal, OPT, and a few others need to do some extra reps for me. We'll take a page out of Senator Obama's (or Marx) play book. You guys need to "spread the wealth" around.

Comment #91 - Posted by: SmoothOperator at October 31, 2008 12:13 PM

Coach Iam impressed ith the posting of this article. The constant self examination will keep Cross Fit around a long time. Kepp up the awesome work.

Comment #92 - Posted by: Aaron Peterson at October 31, 2008 12:33 PM

No rest for the wicked on Halloween, but an easier day. Ran 5 mi. easy, then the SV Beginner's Ladder, 20 lb. pack, rung 3, 10 minutes, got 13 rounds + 3 pullups. Might attempt rung 4 next time.

Comment #93 - Posted by: Kamper M/44/74"/205 at October 31, 2008 12:39 PM

make up day- WOD- Elizabeth

rx'd 95#
18:34
squats were deep
all ring dips low and locked out at the top.
not a great time. Probably shouldve dropped some weight. Better then my last Elizabeth though, from 4/11/08-19:00

Comment #94 - Posted by: gina johnson 46/f/130 at October 31, 2008 12:44 PM

Much thanks to the person that made a pumpkin with our Crossfit Amelia Island logo on it. It wasn't us, so we were surprised when we saw it. We are proud of our Crossfit design! Happy Halloween!!!

Comment #95 - Posted by: Crossfit Amelia Island at October 31, 2008 12:58 PM

Did Angie today:
17:15
Couldn't remember if I could break it up, but:
12 x 8 of all 4
1 x 4 of all 4
took a couple breaks longer than 3 seconds, maybe cost a minute or two.

Allison...I threw in 50 extra push-ups at the end for the 150 for 50 days. Oh...uh...and I missed the bra pic, it's gotta be on this site somewhere, right? ;)
rich

Happy Halloween crazies!

Comment #96 - Posted by: cp rich 28/5'8/165 at October 31, 2008 1:14 PM

More to the point of #95 cp rich's question:

Just for a point of clarification, unless otherwise specified it's acceptable to break up the reps as needed right? isn't the point to finish the RX'd reps as quickly as possible

Comment #97 - Posted by: BigBen M/6'2"/21/205lb at October 31, 2008 1:30 PM

3 mile USMC Tribute for the Fallen Run (slow, untimed pace)

Comment #98 - Posted by: Lance 26/M/184 at October 31, 2008 1:36 PM

#7- allison NYC

little girls grow up to be women who STILL want to be superheros too ya know. :-) yes i will be a super hero tonight, i'm just missing my golden lasso of truth. :P

happy halloween everyone!

Comment #99 - Posted by: nadia shatila at October 31, 2008 1:42 PM

Active rest day:
Ran approximately 4 to 5 miles at moderate pace.

Comment #100 - Posted by: Thomas Baklayan at October 31, 2008 1:53 PM

honeycrisps<pink ladies

Once you've eaten a pink lady apple all other apples are just OK.

Comment #101 - Posted by: Yawning Chain at October 31, 2008 1:56 PM

m/40/140/5'6'

i started the paleo diet about 2 months ago. since then i have dropped 9 pounds. i was not a very big guy to begin with so the weight loss is a bit scary. i can see i have lost some body fat but i didn't have much to lose. i can say i haven't lost any strength. i had a pr on the shoulder press, push press, push jerk WOD along with a pr on "angie" yesterday. i like the way i feel but everyone says i look skinny. has anyone else had these same results from paleo.

Comment #102 - Posted by: duane at October 31, 2008 2:14 PM

Rested yesterday. Today did yesterday's CFE workout and WOD:

CFE:
Run 1 mile time trial
Time: 6:00 flat
Rest 3 min, then 3 x 400m (30 sec rest between) at 1 mile pace for the 1 mile time trial.

Yesterday's WOD:
100 Pull-ups (kipping)
100 Push-ups
100 Sit-ups (anchored)
100 Squats
(Completed each 100 before moving on to the next exercise.)
Time: 16:30

Comment #103 - Posted by: Josh Uri 31/M/6'2"/195 at October 31, 2008 2:21 PM

#94 Crossfit Amelia Island

That was us!! Haha we ordered some shirts from you guys awhile ago and were looking for a crossfit logo thing to print out so we printed out yours and did some carving. I am glad you recognized it :D!!

Comment #104 - Posted by: RSD 21/m/6'1/185 at October 31, 2008 2:29 PM

Man, after yesterday's 100's, my Lat. dorsi are HUGE....

Hahahaha

I love this stuff....

Comment #105 - Posted by: Kenton at October 31, 2008 3:18 PM

Go figure, a CrossFit theme with Halloween! Nicely done with the pumpkin carvings!

Comment #106 - Posted by: Matt at October 31, 2008 4:14 PM

"Grace"
as rx'd

3:03

Missed PR by over 18 seconds. Aparetnly feeling a little sluggish from....life. :)! All good though.

Did "L" sit tabata after that.

Did 30 second handstand hold, 30 seconds rest, 5 rounds after that.

Did max handstand hold (1:43) after that.

Now I am at home whining like sissy girlyman cause my everything is sore! Shiet, I have got to take a break soon!

Expecting daddy (me) dressed up tonight as expecting daddy and stays home with expecting mama dressed up as expecting mama as we leave the night to the amatuers.

Happy halloween everyone!

~J~
Train Hard Push Through "IT"!

Comment #107 - Posted by: JroCk at October 31, 2008 4:14 PM

#59

You make several assumptions based on the lack of IP protections.

1. Economies are solely price driven
2. Large scale exposure to a product (i.e., ice cream) would not increase sales for small company "A"
3. IP protection would have prevented the perceived scenario

I think the point of the article is that IP is not the "key" to success. Simply having a great idea/concept/model/product is not enough to ensure success. IP protections are necessary but not critical for success.

Comment #108 - Posted by: phil mancini at October 31, 2008 4:30 PM

Rocked the CrossFit Endurance WOD of:

Run: RPE 12 for 30 min.

And by "rocked" I mean I completed it :)

Comment #109 - Posted by: JC Veggie M/32/175/5'10" at October 31, 2008 4:54 PM

More like The Ludwig Von Misses the Point Institute.

Comment #110 - Posted by: bc at October 31, 2008 4:59 PM

Day 4 of 100 pushies complete

Comment #111 - Posted by: Melissa Cvjeticanin CF Mississauga at October 31, 2008 5:21 PM

Any guesses on tomorrows WOD? I have a thouhgt-THERE WILL BE THRUSTERS

Comment #112 - Posted by: Kurt m/28/155 at October 31, 2008 5:24 PM

The article is dead, 100% wrong. Without IP/copyright/patent protection, even big companies get smoked. The guy should read this article: August 18, 2008, Business Week, p.62 - "Africa: Stalking the Wild Copycats." Sara Lee is getting killed in Africa on the knockoffs of kiwi shoe polish. Estimates are that Sara Lee/Kiwi has oveall sales of $50 million and 80% market share, but in Uganda roughly half of the Kiwi is fake. Sara Lee loses about 20% of sales across all of Africa. The counerfeiters? They're Chinese and they're good. They've forced BiC pens to shut down factories in Mozambique (as another example).

Here's why knockoffs work - they don't have any advertising, development, or other marketing costs - they steal it from the brand name of the legit company, so they have greater margins.

And the African governments noted that "[p]rotectionof intellectual property rights in developing countries...is a new thing." (Wycliffe Swanya of the Kenya Ass'n of Manufacturers.)

Protection of IP, whether in the form of coprights, patents, or trademarks, is at the very bedrock of business development. Pharmaceuuticals aren't unique - they just deal in bigger numbers. It's the same whether you're an author trying to sell your book or the fictional ice cream company.

And to drive the point home, the counterfeiters use inferior quality products that can be dangerous, like kerosene in the show polish. Think if someone gets injured and sues Kiwi for a warehouse fire that it's a problem for them? Or, even if they win and prove it was knockoff products, that it doesn't hurt their brand?

This guy has absolutely zero idea of what he's talking about.

Comment #113 - Posted by: Dale_Saran at October 31, 2008 5:57 PM

Had a great day with my daughter 1yr 6months and took her trick or treating. She was Cinderella. Very addorable.

Can't wait to get started tomorrow on the WOD.

Semper Fidelis and God Bless

Comment #114 - Posted by: Cody Lee Johnson at October 31, 2008 6:02 PM

In the interests of fairness, I clicked through to N. Stephan Kinsella's article. More footnotes than you could shake a stick at....but very little substance*.

Kinsella argues that libertarians can support protection of private property (i.e. violence against others by a state in defence of something) because corporeal matter is "necessarily scarce".

He thinks there's no scarcity of ideas, so no protection should be afforded to IP.

Now my life and my life's energy are scarce resources. If I put both into building up an international reputation for excellence and finding a cure for Alzheimers, why aren't the resulting assets - scarce resources both - deserving of protection from theft or vandalism?

Tantalisingly, he states that "Econometric studies do not conclusively show net gains in wealth" but this is not explored. There's simply a further footnote**.

At its core, a lot of the libertarian world view comes across as more than just a bit chilling. At its heart, it seems quite Darwinian. I'd like to know what libertarians think should be done to solve world hunger and poverty. What they really think about charity. About markets deciding who lives and dies. I'd love to think I'm getting a wrong impression.

Peace.

Footnotes:
*I only read part, it's all I could take
** Which might or might not deal with that point.

Comment #115 - Posted by: J1 at October 31, 2008 6:23 PM

I've been telling the trick or treating kids coming by my house that they have two options:

1) They can do one round of Cindy and I'll give them an "Enter the Zone" book

or

2) They can have some candy.

Funny, they have all chosen #2!! Go figure

Comment #116 - Posted by: JC Veggie M/32/175/5'10" at October 31, 2008 6:23 PM

hey nice vid, whats the name of the soundtrack?

Comment #117 - Posted by: deNxxx at October 31, 2008 6:33 PM

Decided to do the 100 Burpee for 100 days challenge...only I'm doing it backwards so I did 100 today and I'll end w/ 1 after 100 days.
9:04...hoping to get down to sub 5 min 100 burpees. Gawd that sounds impossible.

Comment #118 - Posted by: LF at October 31, 2008 6:35 PM

#65 You bring up an important point-but actually the point is even stronger than you suggest.

The author clumps three very different areas of law into one garbage can terminology called IP-- a term inf act rarely use dby lawyers who practic ein the file dof patents , trademarks or copyrights (i.e lawyers who handle patents are called patent attorneys and are very different "animals" than are trademark lawyers) The term IP does not mean much as a general term because it glosses over the incentives for each area of law.

trademark and unfair competition law are not to encourage profits for the entrepreneur. They were created to protect the consumer from confusion. This seems to be a point glossed over by the author. His comment about prada and gucci and rolex watches together and speaking of trademarks and patents is misapplied. He is actually speaking of counterfeit goods , not of trademark law or patent law. Does the man sitting with 500 fake rolexes have a stolen patent from Rolex that he is using to make the 20$ knockoff watches? Of course not.

Copyright law is the model the government has created to encourage creative work --and as incentive it gives a certain right of exclusivity for the creator and his/her estate/family to reap some monetary benefit without keeping the public from being ever able to use the creative work down the road. Everyone wins in theory.

And patents-here is where the two fuse. Encourage new and useful creation with huge incentives but with a short life to protect the public from unfair pricing and and any other lovely ride that comes with only one maker i nthe market.

To think of IP just as this areasof law without distinguishing the components is misleading and pointless.

Comment #119 - Posted by: michelle at October 31, 2008 7:01 PM

Deadlifted 10 Sets

225 x3
225 x3
315 x3
315 x3
405 x3
405 x3
455 x1
455 x1
315 x3
315 x3

Comment #120 - Posted by: Jason Khalipa at October 31, 2008 8:06 PM

Great to see a link to the Mises Institute here. If you want to make sense of the current economic debacle, go there instead of ingesting media/government snake oil.

I'm a spectator in the IP debate though.

Comment #121 - Posted by: Doug son of Doug at November 1, 2008 7:44 AM

what do you think of the pumpkin guy's form? I think it's bad because his knees are too far in front.

Comment #122 - Posted by: maverik at November 1, 2008 12:26 PM

Finally got a Concept 2 rower for the basement gym; after losing out on a dozen ebay auctions, I just bought one direct. Did my first 5k row, 25:30. Can't wait to be able to do WOD's w/ rowing as rx'd!

Comment #123 - Posted by: dcostolo at November 1, 2008 4:38 PM

Done.

Thrusters
1-1-1-1-1-1-1

65-95-95-115-95-95-45

Aloha,

Jordan

Comment #124 - Posted by: 27/m/170...Jordan at November 1, 2008 8:15 PM

Tucker opens with “greatest tragedies of intellectual property law” and “intellectual confusion among successful businesspeople”, and closes with IP legislation “use[s] violence”. In between this inflammatory language, Jeffrey Tucker, the author and editor of mises.org, reveals no actual experience in the business world or with intellectual property. Is this representative of the work at the Ludwig von Mises Institute?

He never mentions trade secrets, long an alternative category to patents, and given legal protection under 18 USC 8132 in 1996.

Contrary to the article, sometimes a patent can indeed be the lifeblood a business operation. A business unit might be acquired expressly because of its intellectual property, especially its patents and conceivably its trade marks. This acquisition might have been an objective of the business plans for both sides.

Hughes Aircraft collected over $100 million against the US Government for the latter's infringement of a Hughes' satellite patent.

Often a business creates an invention or design for its market, and then makes a deliberate decision whether to pursue a patent. Tucker writes as if the patent law places some kind of obligation on business. Lots of reasons can exists not to patent, and every business is free not to exercise any of its IP right. Pursuing a patent involves a cost-benefit analysis. Sometimes a business thinks an advantage accrues just to having a patent number on the product.

Quantifying the future side of the equation is of course risky, including both enforcement costs and market advantages. But Tucker would take the net optional benefits away for no earthly purpose but some vague libertarian principle.

Tucker thinks the IP laws have been of no benefit. But in his utopia “without trademark, copyright, or patents”, your local department store will sell only faux Guccis and Rolexes and your drug store will sell Mexican insulin, and the customers and patients won't know until it's too late. Contrary to his view, IP laws have been quite effective.

Comment #125 - Posted by: Jeff Glassman at November 2, 2008 6:47 AM

Being a bit conservative, I have been labelled "right wing" more times than I can count. However, in my own considered view, I am a moderate, and only the global shift of our political body to the left obscures this.

Government EXISTS to protect people. Not from their own stupidity--this is what makes me a conservatie--but from the greed and violence of others.

One simple example. I write a book, which falls into the hands of a publishing conglomerate. I have no resources; they have large resources. They publish it, USING MY NAME, but if I have no claim on the content--on the IP--then they make millions, and I am left without any reward for my efforts.

Free trade and free markets created our current prosperity. There is no question of this. But in the same sense that a home I built belongs to me, so too do any devices or unique ideas I build. Both merit my investment of time and energy because, at the end of the day, they belong to me. The precise problem of socialism is that you can work hard, and the fruits of your labor be stolen from you, by the mediocre, for the mediocre.

There is clear dogmatism at work here, untempered apparently, as Jeff notes, by real world experience. Most ivory towers produce leftists. This is the rare contrary example of pie in the sky thinking on the right.

If we were to eliminate trade secrets and IP rights tomorrow, our economy would melt.

Comment #126 - Posted by: Barry Cooper at November 2, 2008 8:58 AM
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