my back says thanks coach.

Do they still make PC's? If so, why?

MAC for sure. I aint no PC!

Mac, suckas!

Mac FTW!

MAC all the way all the time.

Get a mac, install boot camp, and have both! :)

Nothin' but MAC

Got 'em both, side by side, right here. Mac better for some stuff, but lots of times I go to a site and I can't participate or download stuff cos I'm on a mac. Right now, pc won't play CrossFit videos.

Mac.

"Get a mac, install boot camp, and have both!"

Then go put a Hyundai engine in your Ferrari!

Just watched the video...yeah, won't be attempting that one anytime soon. That was freakin impressive.

All mac, all the way! Ive converted over 15 people in the last year (or should i say the macs did all the work, I just arranged the meeting)

Hey everyone/anyone,

Any videos of "good" single arm push ups out there?

Thx

ps MAC

MAC

Cool Video. I loved all the barbells scattered around the gym. That's a beautiful sight. I wanna play with them.

Okonsky is a strong MF -- awesome

#9 Andy

CrossFit puts a link for both systems with the videos (wmv=PC, mov=mac). Or you can download Flip4mac free to play wmv files.

PC = Mc Cain
MAC = Obama

Coleco Vision = Pallin

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That King Kong WOD needs an 800 m run between rounds, and you gotta lose the weight belt.

Impressive strength and power, though.

MAC! Even though I am typing this on a PC!

That dudes like a stud bull, in Nike frees really!?!

I previously used Linux for everything. Now I prefer Linux for servers and Mac OS for end-user stations and laptops.

Mac.

I have a random question for you wonderful people. I've been doing crossfit for just under a year now. I have been working myself back into shape after an operation. I have had to scale just about everything that I've done but have improved my strength and conditioning. Now that I'm getting more and more serious about this and now that I'm getting into better and better shape I'd like to get to the place where I am doing the WODs RXd. What I wanted to know was this: Is it better to go with the full weight knowing that I might be really slow at it even trying my damnedest, or should I keep cutting the weight, working on improving my speed and technique under load and then gradually upping the weight?
Thank you.

MAC is same PC, same hardware :). Proper question MAC OS or WIN, or MAC OS is linux anyway...

PC

and i HATE ipods.

Mac for when I actually want to use the computer. Chat, itunes, code development, web browsing - the experience is way better on a mac.

PC for (a) gaming and (b) work stuff like Outlook. Notice the common denominator? When you're in Outlook, or a game, the OS doesn't matter - you just live in the app.

Can anyone tell me -

when deadlifting multiple reps, do you set the weight completely down in between reps? Kind of along those same lines, is the lift done at the top of the movement? (As in, can you just drop the weight or does form on the way down count too?)

And I use a mac btw!

King Kong in 7:37. That's what I call a beast! Even though I cannot do a squat clean that heavy yet, I'm going to try that one eventually.

That was absurd; King Kong indeed. I'd like to know how many people even have those weights as their PR. Just as long as it never shows up as the WOD, I'm good.

Both. Or either.

PCs are better for some things, Macs for others. When I'm on one I always miss a couple of features from the other - they're both just tools to get the job done.

Is it enough not to anything at all on rest day. I've been doing crossfit for 6 months and sometimes I feel like I want to do more.

PC. I gave it a try and went back to the PC. I guess I prefer the real world for business...Maybe if I was a quirky emo type or had long hair then I would buy a mac....or if I were voting for Obama. But Im not so a PC for me.

I had a Mac and then I got so pissed off at the Mac wizard at the Apple store that I returned it. He said he was not allowed to show me how to find codecs for some of the applications that I wanted to run and told me to search the Mac forums. I told him I was not a dork and then he showed me his Apple tattoo. Yeah nuff said.

PC

Gota love my ability to organize and coordinate around the world. Love some of the new MSFT tools.

Pc for me. Closest thing I have to a Mac is an Ipod

That guy is a beast.

Power like that is just inhuman.

Awesome Video! Between the hopper challenge at BWI and this monster workout, you guys at Alexandria are definitely representing!

Don't even think about giving this Sergeant a hard time about the belt! Thinking about doing those weights makes me want my pacifier!
Typed on a PC

#21 Nik - the answer is both. If you can do the Rx'd weight even as a 1RM, once in a while you should try to do it, even if it takes a super-long time.

Remember that you are developing work capacity across broad time and modal domains. What this means is that while you're working up to the rx'd weight, it is of great benefit to you to do a light 'n fast WOD as well as a slow 'n heavy version of the same protocol.

As for KING KONG - that was pretty ridiculous. Who thought up such a workout? Did it come from a thought experiment? Awesome performance.

Macs are way better!

I'm an engineer and have to code all day on a PC. But when I get home, I have an iMac and a macBook pro, 2 iphones, iPod nano...

They rock for video editing. I do all my editing in Final Cut Studio. And it looks like most of the posted vids are edited on macs (if I had to guess).

I'm going to side with the PC.

Why? Same reason I side with Crossfit. Openness. Seriously.

Mac is Apple, you want it then you buy the whole package...from Apple. More memory? Apple. Operating system.. Apple. Something about it sucks...too bad. If you buy a Mac you're stuck with Apple. Remember Apple is both hardware and software you HAVE to take both or nothing. (Ever see Tron? Steve Jobs=Stark and MAC=MCP)

PC is about competition. You can shop; there is a marketplace for ideas. So CompanyX puts out bad memory you go buy CompanyY's memory, just as it is through out the entire PC's hardware and software.

Sure Apple is a little open in places but in those same places PC is hugely open. Where Apple is not PC is still open. Does being so open cause some issues like more viruses and compatibility issues? Sure, if Apple was open (and had as much market share) it'd have these problems too.

There is one thing Apple does right. It does multimedia stuff great, but why? Well media carries communication by definition and if the majority of the people communicating use Apple they have default the "media control" that has the ear of the world regardless of true value or worth.

Apple turns pseudo-intellectuals and hippies into de facto shills of a non-open non-modifiable product. (Note not everyone using a MAC is a "pseudo-intellectual" or a "hippy" but these two groups complain the most about corporations while typing on their little close-sourced Macs.)

Think I'm wrong and simply switch "APPLE" and "MAC" to "Globo GYM" and "PC" to "Crossfit". Except for the current market share of PC and that current share of Crossfit the analogy seems to work 100%.

MAC!!

30 in cinema display. YUMMY!!

21

I am a fan of cutting the weight back on items such as Fran or WOD's that have really heavy dead lifts paired up with running and other exercises. These are meant to be metcon workouts so speed, power and lung function are key, not slow heavy lifting. Save the heavy stuff for when when it is a 3x5 day or sets of 1. You will eventually build up the strength and be able to move up in weight.

I have a PC, but prefer MAC.

It will be sometime before anyone duplicates King Kong (much less beats 7:37).

Based on his massive size, I kinda' assumed that he could handle the heavy dead / FS for a few rounds; I was most impressed with the solid MU's and HSPU's that the big fella' was knocking out. Stellar performance "Big O"!

I think Josh Everett can easily beat that King Kong time.

I want to see Amundson do King Kong. I see an under 5 time coming if that happens...

PC or MAC? Neither and both.

It's just an email machine that I use to find porn on once and a while, or everyday. Whatever. Besides, it doesn't matter as long as I get my WOD.

Mac

I just like it better.

p.s. I'm voting for McCain.

p.s. I'm not a hippy.

PC with Linux (Ubuntu)

Definitely PC...

coming from a computer science / electrical engineering major @ Stanford.

Mac banks on the fact that they have a hip advertising campaign and make people feel cool. For people in the know, having a regular computer is many times more convenient and versatile both in software and hardware.

Everyone wishes they had a mac because of the image associated with it, but when it comes time to drop $1500 on a mac when you can get the equivalent pc for $750, most people make the smart choice and buy the pc. That's why apple's market share is something like 10-12%.

Look at Carolina Crossfit members getting a pic on the main site...GET 'EM JIMBO

Time for the latest edition in the crossfit series:

How to make suck equipment into good equipment!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/wats8976/img221.jpg

Also, PC for sure. Look at our modification skills. That would never fly on a mac.

i had a mac for a year and a half and juts sold it. so...pc. you can play better games :)

PC = Personal Computer, both an Apple computer and a Windows computer are PC's. Anyway...

For photography or video editing I use nothing but Apple as my preferred tools are Aperture for photography and Final Cut Studio 2 for video editing.

Remember that the new Mac's are all Intel based computers -- so they can all run Windows, Unix, or a Linux distro. So in terms of flexibility, Apple gives me the ability to run OS X and also run any other OS either virtualized or native. And if you want to play Windows games, an Apple computer makes a decent gaming system as well.

At the core, the computer is just a device for you to get your work, or play, done. If you're more familiar with Windows or OS X, or if that specialty application only runs on a particular platform, then use the one that works for you.

Most of my personal computers are Apple, but my work servers are Windows or Unix as I need HA and clustering -- something Apple doesn't do (well).

PC

fun video. I'd like to see more videos of people working out. They pump you up, more than the informational ones(not that watching Nicole talk about CrossFit doesn't pump me up), before hitting the workout for the day. I know its not a walk in the park making a good video like y'all do but I just thought I would put in my opinion.

#38 penty,
I have to disagree with you on just about every point. I'm guessing you don't own a mac...
First of all, you can buy more memory from tons of third party vendors for a mac. Second, you can run windows on a mac via bootcamp, parallels, etc...

I'll bet you didn't know that a macBook pro runs Windows vista faster than just about any other laptop on the market.

But here's the rub: You CAN'T run Mac OS on a pc!

So you say you want choice? Buy a Mac Pro. Hot-swappable hard drives, eight pentium cores, memory expandable up to 16 GB, optical audio, firewire, lots of slots for expansion...

Seems to me, Macs give you more choices than PC's.

I personally take offense to saying Crossfit would be PC and GloboGym would be Mac.

Macs have less than 10% of market share. They are the underdogs!! Lots of people don't like Steve Jobs, but their engineers produce amazing products.

I bought Leopard the day it was released and it ran like a dream out of the box. Vista stumbled out of the box for a year and people still hate it after tons of updates.

That's all I have to say about that.

"I think Josh Everett can easily beat that King Kong time."

Comment #42 - Posted by: Alfie

"I want to see Amundson do King Kong. I see an under 5 time coming if that happens..."

Comment #43 - Posted by: Olde English

Can't forget Canada's 2nd favorite Crossfitter: Anthony Bainbridge would crush it too.

PC user. Obama voter. IAFF firefighter.

Mac.

It's true that there are fewer total options for some software categories, but those that Mac has are excellent and are really all you need. It has the reliability and versatility of Linux (through Fink) combined with the best GUI in the business. Unless you are a user with specific proprietary software needs (games, GIS, etc.) that can only be met with Windoze, Mac is absolutely the way to go.

Mac, Obama. So that fits.

But I do like the Yankees, who are surely the McCain/PC of baseball.

Come on...MAC, there is no competition. I have a 15" MacBook Pro, 20" iMac, 24" iMac, iPhone, iPod Shuffle, and 2 iPod Nano's. I got mad brand loyalty!

I love hearing my PC friends complain about viruses, software issues, crashes and constant restarts. It's like a guy sitting back and listening to girls talk about all their "women" problems. It's so comforting. PC's may be less expensive, but you have to consider the stability and reliability of a Mac coupled with its longevity. I have seen friends go through 2 or 3 PC's while I sit working on my first iMac. They all tell me the same thing "I should have bought a Mac."

#54 "You CAN'T run Mac OS on a pc!"

wrong. I have osx on the pc im staring at. L2pc.

also everything else you said was misinformed and wrong. The best of PCs will crap all over the best macbook. Macbooks are just consumer computers.

Dell != all of PCs.

PC. My office is 100% PC, my home is PC and I learned on PC. Maybe if I learned on a Mac I would feel different.

Strong Work on King Kong.

PC

Seeing a guy squat clean almost twice what I weigh (9 times!) is a little bit intimidating.

I own four PC's, but my MAC performs way better than all of them. I just converted to MAC last year. I would use a MAC for everyhting I do, but it's still a PC world.

King Kong. Great video! WOW! That guy is a beast! I was most impressed with the muscle-ups and HSPU. Not many guys that big can manipulate their body through space like that. I think his time will be beat, and I think it will be beat by a much smaller athlete. You can never underestimate how strong some of the guys who post on this sight are.

I'm a closet-case game-nerd, so PC is a way of life for me. Looks like I know how I'll be spending my rest day tomorrow...

I have never owned a Mac, but everyone that I know that does only say good things about them. I thought at some point I might try to get a Macbook or something, just to play around with and see how they are.

WOW everyone
-great video
-i use both a mac and a pc but prefer mac
-i'm not a hippy
-i won't discuss politics
Of course it will be great when someone challenges the Sgt. but he deserves a heck of alot of credit. That's what CrossFit is all about, thinking outside the box.

I can't decide if I'd rather give up my Mac or Crossfit.....actually not.

PC for everyday playing around & a Mac for editing. I however don't edit anything other than a word .doc, I'm gonna have to stick w/ a Pc. Also I can "right click" w/ my pc which up untill just recentlly w/ a Mac you couldn't do that.

Mac all the way...

Except, the battery on my MacBook Pro is just crap!

Linux (Arch or Fedora) on desktop.

Linux (RH, CentOS, OpenWRT) on servers.

Mac laptop, running WinXP on Parallels when I need to test web code on IE.

PC multi booting Linux and Windows, along with VMWare/VMplayer for those times when one OS running at a time just isn't enough.

(I'm a computer engineer, what do you expect?)

Just so I don't get pidgeon-holed by voicing my computer preference:

PC (Gateway using Windows XP)
3 tour OIF vet (still serving)
Obama voter

2 Macs at home, 2 macs at the gym, iphone for me and my biz prtnr. mac all the way!!!

FireBlaine - #69

"Also I can "right click" w/ my pc which up untill just recentlly w/ a Mac you couldn't do that."

I developed on a Mac from 1999-2006 as a programmer and always had right click ability with my 2-button mouse. Just cause Apple didn't ship a 2-button mouse with the machines didn't mean the functionality was missing. ;)

In 7 years developing on Macs and PCs before my job change to a PC only CAD job, I enjoyed both, though both presented their own quirks. For video, sound, and general "multimedia", the Mac has my vote. For gaming and programming/development, the PC just has more tools/games developed for it because of it's market share. But when it came to bugs, goofs, glitches, and general oddities of system and programs during development and roll-out, the Mac just always had less problems. So that's my take.

If I could afford a really good Mac, I'd love to have one, but I'll gladly use my $500 PC for gaming and checking my email and the WOD.

-TripMN 28/m/5'9"/165#

FireBlaine - #69

"Also I can "right click" w/ my pc which up untill just recentlly w/ a Mac you couldn't do that."

I developed on a Mac from 1999-2006 as a programmer and always had right click ability with my 2-button mouse. Just cause Apple didn't ship a 2-button mouse with the machines didn't mean the functionality was missing. ;)

In 7 years developing on Macs and PCs before my job change to a PC only CAD job, I enjoyed both, though both presented their own quirks. For video, sound, and general "multimedia", the Mac has my vote. For gaming and programming/development, the PC just has more tools/games developed for it because of it's market share. But when it came to bugs, goofs, glitches, and general oddities of system and programs during development and roll-out, the Mac just always had less problems. So that's my take.

If I could afford a really good Mac, I'd love to have one, but I'll gladly use my $500 PC for gaming and checking my email and the WOD.

-TripMN 28/m/5'9"/165#

Mac.

Nice work "Big O"!

Way to set the mark way high!

I like the idea of the workout. Where are the weights relative to your (his if a 3rd party answers)1 rep max on the weighted lifts?

Your dradlift looked to be way stronger than 455 and you made the cleans look easy as well. I hesitate to guess, but it looked like 75-80% on cleans and 90% on deads.

I wouldn't mind doing a King Kong Jr. at the relative maximums.

By the way, good choice in footwear. The frees are great for deadlifting and good enough for cleans.

I am using a Mac here in the desert and it is regularly out performing the PCs on the team. Ten man team and we have 3 Mac users. It is just a better all around platform. Oh and it opens files in arabic or sorani with out a hitch every time. Try that with windoze.

Gaine's Mill, Kirkuk Iraq

m/21/5'10"/143

warm up - jumping muscle ups x 10, seated mu's x 5

Puppies:
For time:
65 lb Squat clean, 10 reps
65 lb Squat clean, 8 reps
20 Sit ups
65 lb Squat clean, 6 reps
15 Sit ups
65 lb Squat clean, 4 reps
10 Sit ups
65 lb Squat clean, 2 reps
5 Sit ups

time - 9:05

I think my form improved the further into the workout I got. Just a sign that I need to push harder next time?

I'm going to toss in a vote for Apple (Mac) on this one.

My very first computer experience was on an Apple IIe and it was incredible. After that, a Performa 6800 that ran like a champ for many years. When the Performa was 'retired', we went through a string of Windows machines from Hewlett-Packard, Packard-Bell, and Compaq, all of which died shortly after their measly warranties expired. My family promptly went back to Macs - a Yosemite tower (with the matching behemoth of a monitor - awesome!), an eMac, and the first generation of the cheese-grater-style PowerMac.

The first-generation eMac is still kicking it back home - my Mom, who swore for years that she would never touch a computer, can use it to manage and print her photo collection, send emails, and browse the web. Even my Dad (who still brags to strangers about how he doesn't own a cell phone) has figured out how to go online.

As for myself, I have a first generation MacBook for schoolwork while a G4 Cube that I refurbished is connected to my TV to function as a DVD player and a source of extra music storage (yes, I have a few iPods too...). Honestly, if a 20-year-old chick can maintain and upgrade these machines, anyone can.

Long story short, Macs have the distinct advantage of a more tightly controlled manufacturing process - from the physical machine to the software inside. I have never had a negative experience when I have sought help from Apple Care and if you buy a protection plan, even the most expensive repairs will be prompt and very likely will not cost you a cent.

Anyone else worried about lack on control from the top of the deadlift?!

Still a great effort, just though the deadlifts looked like asking for an injury.

Cheers.

(PC by the way)

Mac HW with Ubuntu OS.

PC.
No windows.
Use Linux!

by "Mac or PC?" I'm assuming they mean which is better MacDonalds or Pudgies Chicken. Right?

I'd have to go with Pudgies. Although MacDonalds is usually more conveniently located.

Also does Rest "Day" mean we should workout at night?
Any help is appreciated.

Mac forever. My making the switch was huge. I cannot imagine ever going back, which I won't. It's like seeing in color for the first time after a lifetime of black and white.

The only thing that comes close, as far as a profound paradigm shift in my life, was when I stumbled onto this site (how, I have know idea) and for some bizarre reason actually do these exercises and adopt this philosophy, drank the Kool-Aid.

I left globo-gym style of fitness in the dust and I don't ever want to go back or even look back. In fact, I am genuinely incapable of going back because it changed me for the good.

Fedora Linux on a PC!

If you've used both you know Mac is better. A million times better. It isn't even a close contest. PC sucks, and it isn't all their fault.

Hi I'm a PC and I think that workout should be named The Hulk instead. No f'king way King Kong could do a muscle up or hand stand push ups. I've seen the Hulk do one handed muscle ups. Impossible you say? Isn't jumping over buildings impossible? Hulk says not.

Well I'm a Mac and I think King Kong is a great name for this workout. King Kong can lift anything!

PC: King Kong is one dimensional, just like your stupid claim to fame about picture/video application superiority. Sure he can lift buildings, but he has a vertical leap of about 4 inches. I know yo may argue 4 inches is sufficient but trust me Mac females say not. Crossfit is about testing and strengthening all aspects of fitness. Duhh!

Mac: Shut up PC! I've had enough of your versatile sarcasm and wit. I'm going to go work on my dead lifts.

PC: Case in point!

PC

In the past 2 years I have had 2 macs crash beyond repair on me. Done with fruit.

Kingkong, that was awesome!

mac hands down.

switched over 5 years ago and cannot see myself ever going back. my pc at the office crashed every other day, my mac (knock on wood) always behaves.

How do you upgrade the hardware on a Mac? How does a Mac have better graphics when all it has is a low end ATI card? My Linux box has an ATI Radeon HD 3650. Far better graphics than what any Mac has to offer. If you want better graphics all you need to do is upgrade the video card on your Mac. Oh wait...How do you upgrade the hardware on a Mac? LOL :-)

Mac.

I make my living using a Mac (and Adobe software) so I guess I'm biased. Been using them for 15 years now as a graphics professional, they're the bomb diggity.

You know what they say, "Once you go Mac, you never go back."

mac

Mac compared to a PC is the same as:

CrossFit vs traditional globo gym training

Increased work capacity vs increased points of failure

Functional vs Isolated

Fitness vs Pathology (lets call Linux Wellness)

Windows!

Mac is a closed system. PC is open. With a PC you have a lot more control to mess with the guts of things if you want. You can't really mess with OSX. Non-power users prefer Mac because it is shiny and pretty, not due to any significant superior functionality.

Linux is the Ron Paul of operating systems. It doesn't get involved in your applications.

Mac since the beginning.

Dan the Dude: Check out www.beastskills.com for one-arm pushups. He's got progressions for a couple of different kinds, one of which is an "arm in" variety.

Macs are supposed to be intuitive and user-friendly, but I grew up with PCs, and everything seems backwards on a Mac. Also, one mouse button? Wtf?

king kong video was impressive! let the competition begin.

i wish i could get a 3 on, 1 off schedule at work.

12 hour readys suck

-zach
"1010 please"

Interesting workout.
How would you scale this workout for a middle weight?
The deadlift is 2.5 times my body weight and 30# over my PR.
95% PR DL?
and
80% PR Clean?

bout 1/2 hour ago came back from attending my local affiliate's (Valley CrossFit) 7pm intermediate co-ed class....

Mike Latch, Becca Voigt, Josh -
thank u for a great workout; for me, it reinforced one of the imperatives of CrossFit - root out one's weakness (the goat!) so that one may overcome it. i suck so horrifically at wall-ball that it's truly fantastic. had the 16# ball for the set of 21 and struggled with that, had to grab the 20# for the set of 15 and nearly died with that, and then struggled again with the 16# (meaning i re-did about as many missed reps as good reps) for the set of 9 and 3. hole-y cheese is that a huge weakness for me. subbin thrusters for wall-ball in the mainsite WODs does no good lemme tell ya! i wuz one of the latter half of participants to finish that workout and more than a lil disappointed in meself. (altho i wuz holding to strict form standards; target missed or uncaught wall-balls don't count, kb swings to overhead, k2e with patellas actually contacting olecranons, plate squats to below parallel, still, my biz wuz SLOW, all cuz o those wall-balls).

long story short, i made up my mind (with the help of fellow VCFer Trixie) by the end of post-class "play time" to lay down dues for a month of classes with the Valley CrossFit crew.

here now begins my experiment with affiliate WOD'ing. i think i will try to also keep up with the mainsite WODs as well (maybe with a lil less than full intensity), but if 2 a days begin to become troublesome, affiliate workout performance may take precedence for the next month.

i just hate tossin that damn ball and f*ing missing that 10' target.... rrr!

mac, no blue f. u. screens.

#29 Matt - It is a belief of Crossfit to participate in other sports too, so get out there and learn something else cool that your body can do...

Or just log onto www.crossfitendurance.com and get into some more complimentory crossfit WODs!

I use PC because im a computer nerd.

Mac, without question.

To the moron who said he's into Windows 'cause he's all about the "real world in business": Get your head out of your arse, man. There are plenty of well-run, highly profitable business run primarily on Macs.

I'm currently not aware of anything that a PC does better than a Mac, except run applications that are only available on for Windows. In which case, running something like VMWare Fusion or Bootcamp for those specific applications allows one to enjoy the best of both worlds.

I cannot fathom an amount of money that could make me enjoy working primarily on a Windows machine again.

Mac since 1993, baby and voting McCain. I also have a pc laptop to help remind me why I like Apple so much more.

PC

Just added KING KONG to my WOD spreadsheet and plan on doing it soon! Scaled of course, LOL!

Fogort to mention, Love the new Metallica CD. I noticed it is the soundtrack. I especially love the song chosen, Broken, Beat, & Scarred. Great Song!!!!

We have nothing left to argue about? :-)
Mac

Shimano or Campy :-)

Yeah, I'm with a Alfie. I think Josh Everett would OWN King Kong. I could see sub-5 for sure. Maybe sub-4

Definitely a Mac guy, it's great not worrying nearly as much about viruses and they make machines that stay current for a long time.

Windows sucks, and Mac is worse. Sorry, I didn't fall for all the "young and cool" advertising Mac does. Linux on a PC is the golden ticket.

Mac.......and Big O is a beast!!!!

King Kong Hooah!

PC + Linux > MAC (all day long)

Its a rest day, but I did my first Murph ever. Wanted to post my scores.

As Rx'd

1st Mile - 6:08
10 sets of 10,20,30
2nd Mile - 7:27
Total time: 53:57

I'm brand new to crossfit, working on buying a car just so I can drive to my nearest crossfit to join. I'm stoked!

"Big O" is a tank!! The only people I could see doing King Kong as rx'd would be either Greg Amundson or John Welbourn...and who knows if they would beat his time.

Wow crazy strength/endurance in that video. Nice one.

PC for me. Mac's are just PC's now with a fancy case and a better OS for a lot more money. I can't believe they are selling the new Macbook Pro with only 2GB ram standard when Dells that cost 30% as much come with 3 or 4GB standard. Memory is cheap as dirt these days.

I own an iPhone 3G and love it, but I hate how iTunes tries to take over and manage my media for me. No thanks, I'll control it myself. OSX is nice for general computer use (email, web etc) but a PC is better for gaming and development (in my opinion). Use a PC at work of course as well.

I'd vote for Obama but I'm Canadian :).

PC, so what...

Totally off topic, but I had to share. . .

http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/848554.html

102# Chris!

Good to meet you tonight. You are a serious competitor with Cf. and a welcome to the VCF Family. You will find that time comes second to form there. When Form is perfected, the time just falls into place.

Im opening up my own box soon.. but i still train there 4 times a week and 2 times a week at a different box. VCF is a great home. with friendly people who are all very fit.

Welcome.

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All I have to do is get a Muscle Up, a 455 dead lift and a 255lbs clean... and I got this work out!

haha.

Although I am impressed by his freakin power... some one needs to do it faster.

and without the belt.

Give me a bit of training.. its a one rep DL.. I have a 400lbs right now. and im really close to my MU. and the clean.. will happen. hah.

But my anyone with some serious strength and Met-con can take his time. But way to set the bar big brother!

Johnny D

That's an incredible effort. So Crossfit, how many other people on the planet can deadlift 450#, and do a muscle up? Not many, your a stud Matt, keep it up!!

PC baby

Mac. There are PCs in the garage that used to run Linux before they broke and I never felt like fixing them.

I'm an electronic musician, though, so Logic Pro + Ableton Live + Propellerhead Reason + Audio Hijack Pro + Bias Peak = i can haz gronky track. Throw Traktor DJ studio into the mix and i can haz gronky mixes.

I'm also a web monkey. I love my MacBook Pro. Plus, with a one-button mouse, the click works whether I click or smash my face into the trackpad. Yay for cross-browser development!

Definitely Mac.
I just wish that CrossFit videos would play on my iPhone.

Gotta Zone question.

I've studied up on it followed the plan for a couple of weeks now LOVING IT!!!. My question is in regards to Rice. I'm deployed in Baghdad right now, and most of the time they serve white rice. I haven't touched it in the past couple of weeks and occasionally they put some sort of bean or blackeyed peas out. Is Brown rice off the list or am I missing the point and White rice ok?

Thanks,
Smitty

Holy Zone (or lack thereof) I'm not allowed to eat for my surgery in like 3 hours, and it's killing me! Definitely am not functioning so well.

I like windows. We had Macs in my high school and I hated them a lot. The single thing I did like was the video editing, which was nice. Other than that, couldn't stand them. They were ugly, didn't like the internet, didn't like the mouse, didn't like much, they were ugly. I really don't like Apple all that much.

#22 kze

>>MAC is same PC, same hardware :). Proper question MAC OS or WIN, or MAC OS is linux anyway...

Noooooo... Linux is a kernel, OSX is not built on the linux kernel, and the unix part built on top of the non-linux kernel is based on BSD, which also has nothing to do with linux. The only way they are kind of related is that they both implement unix, kinda.

Also, to be fair, Mac's are PCs as well, since PC stands for "personal computer".. but I vote for OSX. I prefer unix to DOS, it's more stable, in general it's a better programming environment (I'm an engineer), more secure, more easily available free software, better performance in some areas, no registry hell to deal with (a major cause of instability and insecurity, and bugs), etc.

Yeah I dont understand why you would by anything but a Mac, i.e. Mac OS. It can runs windows vista if you install boot camp. But Vista cannot run leapord. So its kind of like why get anything else. Other than price...

So ladies, how about we come up with a "Queen Kong"?

Along with a 3x bodyweight deadlift, completing king kong as rx'd is a life goal for me now! very impressive that someone big enough to deadlift 450 can do muscle ups!

Used a M/Soft PC for many years and still have to use them at work. They suck! But for home and my affiliate it's Mac all the way. Have only had one a few months and am still coming to terms with the differences, but I love it.

100% Mac. Apple's got it goin on!

MAC!!!!

Check out this link http://www.flowrestling.org/videos/coverage/view_video/234160/75353-iowa-state-stadium-workout
if these guys aren't CrossFitters then they should be.

Once you go mac you never go back!

Fantastic vid! What a complete badass!
PC for sure. Bloomberg write-in.

Mac.

PC/Linux, boot to Windows for games. While I like the stability of OSX, I find it annoyingly restrictive when I want to do something some way besides the "One True Apple Way"--with my Gentoo Linux box I can do ANYTHING I want, the way I want. The only thing I can't do the way I want in Linux is play games, and I couldn't do that in OSX either. I have to use a Mac at work (scientific research) and I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH rather, for a much lower price, have a commodity PC built from custom parts, with more horsepower, running an OS I can tweak the way I need.

(my favorite essay on operating systems--Neal Stephenson's "In the beginning was the command line": http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html

My first computer was a little 350MHz Blueberry Mac. I absolutely LOVED that computer. You will never find a more user friendly stable OS than a Mac. That thing rarely, if ever, crashed. Still have it running iTunes looking cute and retro!

However, when I started PC gaming and building my own boxes...I went totally PC. Loved the Mac, but I needed to be able to freely tinker and tweak my computers and couldn't do that much with the Mac.

While a nice computer, from the software perspective, owning a Mac is kind of like owning a really nice car you can only drive on 40% of the hi-ways and roads. Imagine that! Nope, this car won't run down that road, so you can't go there :P

Oh btw, thanks: Comment #36 - Posted by: Alex m/28/6'3'/166# at October 14, 2008 7:44 PM

Mac at home - we love it
PC at work - no choice...

I'd love to have a Mac at work, then I could talk to my bride at lunch with iChat. It's pretty cool!

I would like to know how much the guy weights in the video. I think this can be accomplished if you go by % of bodyweight.

I was going to guess 245lbs or so but I am probably way off.

Ditto #140...

Mac at home - we love it
PC at work - no choice...

Mac for me.

I am an MCSE, and I switched to Mac after xp. I used to scream from the walls the joys of Windows after XP came out. I was all about PC, and always asked Mac users: why are you playing with those toys?

Then I played with OS X for 15 mins. Went home and started selling all my PC stuff. It's just better. The hardware is better, sure you can get a Smell for 600 bucks, but try putting that against an 8 core, 32 gigs of ram, 4 terabytes of storage and a 2 gig SLI graphics in a Mac pro.... that Smell is now WAY more expensive than a Mac. (This fact has been proven by MANY PC publications)

As for the hardware being the same... they aren't. Apple makes all their own logic boards (motherboard in PC lingo) in house. SOME hardware may be the same, but they don't utilize it the same way. My G5 quad core (out YEARS before PCs were using multi-core in consumer products) ran at a 2.5 gigahertz. Doesn't sound fast but PPC is a RISC CPU, Intel is a CISC CPU, Clock speed means nothing, it was the Mhz Myth. My 2.5Ghz was almost equivalent to a 4.5Ghz intel. Not the same hardware. The processors now are the same, but the way the OS utilizes that hardware makes a huge difference too.

As for Mac's running Vista faster, you all can say its bull, but better check your sources. PCWorld:"best computer for vista" CPU:"Vista faster on the Macbook Pro than on the Dell" PCMag:" Vista ran error free on the MacBook Pro"

p.s. Not emo, and not a hippy

Looking for a last good workout to do at my OP in Iraq, anybody got some good ideas?

Great video. Awesome workout, I couldn't even do the DL or clean for 1 rep. Nonetheless a total of 4 455# DL's, 9 250# cleans. Awesome work. Nice coaching and video editing by Rudy and the CF Alexandria crew.

BTW:
For everyone saying that Person X, Y or Z would smoke the good SGT's time should put up or stuff it. Person X, Y and Z all are humble enough to talk the talk after they do the workout. Not sit here and speculate how much better they would do.

Okonsky. That video is insane. Brute strength but best of all great form.

Might have to try a "king kong's little brother" w/o here at CF Huntsville.

Great stuff. You are beast.

www.crossfithuntsville.com

Just wanted to answer a few of the questions about Matt. When we shot this video he had just returned from 6 months in Army intel school. When he left he weighed around 240 & now he is down to around 218. Obviously, he's not even close to Welbourne's size, but at 6'1" 218, is bigger than most elite CrossFitters.

As for the workout - we like to play with super-heavy barbell movements in our metcons (80-90% of 1RM), coupled with either high skill gymnastics moves, or a balls-out cardio sprints. This usually provides the requisite amount of suck that we have grown to love. Matt is somewhere between 80-85% on both of the lifts in the video. He has a 535 dead & a 305 C&J.

Yes, he is a beast - he also has a 21 minute 3 mile run, 2:36 Fran, & 30 rounds of Cindy. When we shot this video we really wanted to see if anyone else could not just finish the workout, but could beat Matt's time. We had a short list of athletes (Jeremy Thiel, Josh Everett, Anthony Bainbridge, Matt Murski, Jason Khalipa) that we thought would challenge Matt's time, but after seeing what this workout (i.e. the squat cleans) did to an athlete as big as Matt, we honestly don't know what to expect.

Have at it boys (& ladies, Gillian?). We're excited to see what happens.

#2, Todd - I wondered the same thing.

Mac, all the way.

Interesting, though, to see the responses here - the Mac folks just know they've got it. PC people have to defend, scrape up 8-year-old arguments, and hope that people won't actually try a Mac. 'Cause once you really do, you'll see what you've been missing. Just like CrossFit.

Feel free to love your Mac, but don't rely on it to be a safe professional tool. Many people seem to work well in its interface, but overall, the maturity of the product and the attitude of the company are 10 years behind the competitors.

As a professional security researcher, I've worked with many vendors to fix security vulnerabilities I've discovered in their products. Overall, Apple has the worst track record in terms of acknowledgement, reproduction, and remediation of issues. In addition, OS X lacks the modern interal operating system protections which make reliable exploitation so difficult on vista and (some) newer linux distrobutions.

Instead of working on their technology, they use their marketing team, and their relatively small market share as a shield, and claim good security and stability.

I've used Mac's for many years, and my grudging conclusion to my professional career is that Apple has sadly damaged their brand as far as software goes, and in contrast, Microsoft has become amazing in terms of software protection. I know this seems odd to hear, but realize that solid information takes a few years to pass from professional to layman, just like in exercise science.

If you've got doubts, google my name for credentials.

King Kong: Amazing, impressive feat of strength and conditioning.
The 'cinematography' SUCKED!!!! The constant screen blackouts made me queasy, and I quit watching after the second DL.
The presentation of Big O's outstanding efforts was ruined by the filming.

I'm on Zone and am not allowed to have a (Big) Mac, oddly enough.

PC

#149
I'm listening to your interview at Bluehat...interesting stuff.

I liked working with Sourcefire's IDS btw...it was easier to use than snort by itself.

mac

That video was insane....Big O is a strong dude.

#55 Herm

Anthony Bainbridge was the first person I thought of too when I saw this video. Def think that him along with Everett could go sub 5 easily!

I might be able to do "King Kong", but 455 is my PR for DL, so doing it 3 times along with everything else might be a stretch at this point.

[ginger bread man voice] "You're a monster!"

That video was sick...

PC...Mac is still too "left coast" for me...I will give it a chance in the future I'm sure...

Linux .... sometimes PC

Way to go Jim nice pic on the main site!! way to rep Carolinacrossfit!! Remember you still got beat by a Nine year old! HaHa

PC - I work as a mechanical engineer and until a year or so ago you could not run various engineering programs on a Mac. It probably will be a PC for the rest of my life because of habit, cost, etc. Ever try to transition from PC Word to Mac Word... frustrating! Though Mac's do have some cool software that comes with their computers (e.g. Garage Band).

LINUX!

MAC for sure.

I'm currently using a PC but want to switch as soon as I can convince the wife.

But it depends. For photos and music a MAC is the way to go.

For gaming, I'm going to say PC.

You have to remember, a printer is the only thing that a MAC won't be able to plug and play. Everything else is good to go. Whereas on a PC you need software for most things.

With the new technology of MAC's being built, I don't think they're outdated as quick either.

MAC!!!

Crossfit or Gym Jones?

Outside mag strikes again!

Wow! That video was great. I think that's what Greg Amundson would look like if he did Rip's gallon of milk a day diet. :)

Mac please.

MAC at home and PC when deployed, but soon that will change when I get back. MACs are safe. that sold me from the get go. I dig music, videos, internet, pictures and use the office-like software word processor, spreadsheet, slide development tools for work-I'm a military instructor. these files can be used with MS Office programs as well.

Mac.

Security issues noted by Lurene Grenier are a concern that should be acknowledged and addressed. However, the simple truth is I've never had a modern mac (2003 and up) that has experienced crash issues and catastrophic hardware failures. By contrast, I've had 3 PC's in that time totally melt-down.

The minor issues I've had with Macs have been dealt with as follows:

* Bring computer to Apple Retail Store
* Apple tech diagnoses problem on the spot
* Apple tech either fixes problem immediatly (ie. if it is a software or battery issue) or orders part and schedules work time to fix it.
* Apple tech gives me computer right back...even if the part to fix it is on order. This is huge considering a failed optical drive does not make the computer unusable.
* When part arrives, apple tech fixes the mac within an hour of dropping it off.

With warranty repairs I've never been without my computer for more than an hour! Compare that to the process of sending your Dell back to Texas for diagnosis and repair.

With all of that said, they are not for everyone. There are some people who need the PC platform as there is a huge gap between the two platforms in terms of commercial application compatibility. PC's still rule the corporate IT culture. But those PC's are supported by smart, trained IT staffs whose job it is to know the corporate platform, and how to keep it operating properly.

Mac provide consumers and small businesses the same up-time peace of mind through their ease of use and retail support.

FWIW, my home now has 2 MacBooks, 1 iMac, 1 Airport Base Station, and an iPhone used by yours truly. Yeah...I guess I'm a Machead.

Hate to say it but PC provides for my family. If I were a MAC tech, I dunno....
I'll tell you macs are easier but PCs run the world. Thanx Bill for putting an OS that needs constant care....at a price$
I'm rich b*tch!!!

I'm an engineer for a defense contractor and I only use PCs. PCs have been around a whole lot longer and been proven.

Mac is just a craze, the new IT thing. Mac is associated as new, independent, cool, creative, etc. Mac is only good for photos, music, and other artsy stuff. If you want a business machine, get a PC. Mac will never be as good as PC.

Nice vid Sky.

PC

Broad range of software products.
Broad range of hardware components.
NEVER had a single problem with hardware components.
Easy to upgrade individual components at home instead of lugging it to some store.
NEVER had a virus on my PC because of anti-virus software and common sense.
No problems viewing videos online either.
I use it for work and play.
In fact, the only problem I've ever had with my PC is opening the case and cleaning on a normal basis.
Still use XP too because I like it.
Granted, the majority of the above has to do with the brand of PC I bought, and it sure as crap isn't a Dell, CrapWay (GateWay), or HP, but hey, it's still a PC.

Macs are cute and all, but that doesn't mean I want to own one.

Mac.

as rxd

24 hours

Wed WOD at Spark Sport Conditioning
40 OHS 75 lb
20 Double-Unders
40 Push Press 75 lbs
20 Body Rows
40 SDLHP 70 lbs
20 TGU's
40 AMSU
20 Suitcase Lunges 30lbs
40 Wall-Ball 20 lb Ball
20 Burpees
40 Box Jumps
20 Pull ups
25 Tire Flip w/ 205 lb tire
365m Row
400m Run in -5 C
38:15

Once you go MAC, you'll never go back!

Just a regular guy doing regular stuff. Just want a computer to do what I want it to do and shut up about it. My life began when I switched to a MAC. Everything they make works!

Computious joked:

Some work on their Mac. Some work on their PC. No one works on their Wang any more.

http://tinyurl.com/445snl

K. Kibbe #143,

Finally a comment with some knowledge behind it. I love the part about the Mhz myth. So many PC users see the numbers (4Gb of RAM vs. 2 like grambo #117 posted) and compare to that. It's not about the number but how well the components work together.

The other number they see is price. Good timing for this discussion with the release of the new macbooks and new prices. As you mentioned Kibbe, by the time you get the upgrades of the "Smell" (love it) it'll cost way more.

Most of the comments I've seen here in favor of PC are as credible as the comments towards the dangers of Oly lifts. Let's put it in context people... Just because Elliptical's are still popular doesn't entail quality.

Just watched the video; good job, Sarge O. That's some serious weight.

PC
At least when somehting goes wrong you can open it up and fix it.
When a Mac goes bad, they do turn into reliable boat anchors.

PC.

I mean, Mac is like a cult, right?

You don't have to choose anymore, given boot camp or parallels being available, as well as the use of the intel chipset in the new macs.

If I had to choose, here is the breakdown:

Mac for home "bulletproof" use, like for the kids to pound on, and the wifey to have trouble free reading of TMZ.com, PC for anything vaguely related to productivity.

Granted, PC's CAN BE less stable/secure/reliable, but that is a function of their complexity. Any complex system is going to have more "parts" to break. I will take that complexity and its inherent need for more careful use over a Mac any day.

Now, that being said, my dream machine is the Macbook pro with parallels installed, so's I can look at the pretty pictures in OSX, and run Visual Studio in XP pro on the same machine.

"PC = Mc Cain
MAC = Obama

Coleco Vision = Pallin"

----
Lou #17... so you're saying McCain is the workhorse that is driving the economy while Obama is a fashionable and overly expensive product that does little more than look pretty and offer exciting but relatively useless tools to heavily in-debt yuppies?

sorry.. PC!

The mac is great but isn't compatible with the Garmin 405's.....

MAC hands down!!

Mac's are cooler but are too expensive.

McCain = PC, please..

McCain = typewriter.

MAC + iPhone. iPhone is WICKED CRAZY!

26/m/201

No rest for me today,
7x 20 second front squat to shoulder press with 10 second breaks in between the 7 reps.
7 rounds of
5 ball throws
10 push ups
15 kb swings
I did not do this for time, except the first part.

Macs are great for people easily convinced a product is good through colorful and flashy commercials. Also great for those that like to pay more for a "cooler" product that offers a lot less choice. Apple also makes some great products if you loved to be locked in and don't like competition in software products you can put on them. Come to think of it, Mac is kind of like Obama...communist.

PC running Windows xp/vista or even Ubuntu for things that matter and real world effectiveness and to support capitalism and ingenuity.

Mac for video editing maybe playing games. They are also good for gandma who can't figure out her TV remote.

See no difference in usability within apps that matter like MMORPGs, Office apps etc...

Seems to be a personality thing. If you like things spoon fed to you, Mac is the lazy socialist dream come true.

If you like having a say in what goes into your computing experience and don't mind be an informed consumer PC is more for you.

For those that say PCs are less secure, think about this. If you are a malicious hacker type hell bent on doing the most collateral damage to the most people, are you going to waste time writing code for a platform that is scoffed at in business and only accounts for about 5% of the global PC market? Probably not.

Yes, its easier to write bulletproof drivers when you keep a straglehold on you hardware and don't allow competition on your platform. But the customers suffer when given no choice.
I'm not happy being another brick in the wall.
I wanna be a glass skyscraper.

Apple does make real purty media players and phones but again their proprietary formats drive me away everytime. I got an ipod and gave it up for a zen stone. It plays mp3s and wmas without wasting my time.

Comment 54 - reno_ty said: "But here's the rub: You CAN'T run Mac OS on a pc!"

That's because its against the Apple/Mac licensing agreement. They won't allow it. That is NOT an option by their choice.

Yah, DRM from the iTunes store really grates.

I'm a PC user myself, though we do have macs at the lab that I'll use for MRI analysis. I strongly prefer my computer at home which I built and is (of course) a PC. I run Windows XP.

Umm, voting Obama too. Not sure that analogy is holding up so well.

Those who can, will... Those who can't, will speculate on how Okonsky would easily be beaten by someone who can. Man up! #147 Rudy gave you the recipe for the scaled workout.

Does it really matter? PC got us to this point, but MAC is taking us to the future.

I just bought an all in one Vaio PC. The style is beautiful, it looks just like a flat panel HDTV(actually it is). I can play and burn blu-ray dics on it. It has a built in TV tuner and so much more. I wanted to buy an iMac but the only reason why I got the PC was because my wife fell in love with it.
I also own a MacBook and I love it. I think is good that I have both but I still go with the Mac.
I needed a new router so of course I went with the Airport Express, the set up was a breeze. Did I mention I like Mac better :)

MAC MAC MAC MAC MAC MAC MAC!!!

Mu. Which in computers is zen for "unask the question", and is a polite way of saying this is a stupid question. (As I understand real zen gives Mu a slightly different meaning) Computers are a tool, I care about getting the job done.

My religion is christianaty. I'd be a poor christian if I had room to worship anything else.

Personally I run FreeBSD when I can. I've been known to use NetBSD once in a while, but not in a while. Linux is interesting, but I prefer the FreeBSD attitude. I don't like the way Windows makes me work, but I can deal with it. I haven't needed to do something on a mac in years, but I can use them as well.

I do tell my non-computer friends to get a mac - because they just work so I don't have to be tech support as often.

Linux Ubuntu FTW

MarcD,

First of all, this is not a topic I care all that much about. This is like discussing whether you should use a Casio or a Seiko watch. Really, I don't care all that much. I guess I just enjoy arguing or something :-) I tried to respond last night. But the board censored me because I posted too many URL's in my message. I don't think I'm misinformed at all. And thanks for the sweeping statement with only a single point (that was very weak) to back it up.

You may be running Mac OS on your PC. But we both know it is not only ILLEGAL (Violates EULA when you install Mac OS) to do so. But it is also not supported by Apple. At any time, Apple could release a an update that will break your compatibility. So I stand by my statement that you can't run Mac OS on a PC. You can't drive 100mph down the freeway. Sure, your car will go that fast, but you can't do it.

My claim that the macBook pro runs Vista faster than almost any other laptop on the market is substantiated by a simple google search of "MacBook pro runs vista fastest". The top hit is from "PC World". In 2007, they found the MacBook pro to run Vista the fastest "so far". What's funny about this is that Apple was not optimizing their hardware for Vista. It just worked out that way.

I said that Mac has less than 10% of the market share. Right now, they are sitting at just over 8% (world-wide). In the US, they are at around 14%. Do the research. If I post the links, I'll get censored :-(

I said that a lot of people don't like Steve Jobs. That is certainly not misinformed. Most people respect his savvy. But lots of people can't stand his "strangle-hold" over his own products.

As far as Vista Vs. Leopard. Did Leopard work perfectly, out of the box? Of course not. No OS does. Did it cause shockwaves of disdain among its users like Vista did? No. But it worked really well from day one. Vista, on the other hand, was a steaming pile on day one. "The Wow Starts Now"? Sure, if the next thing you say is "Wow, this OS kinda sucks". I've had to install XP on several machines for friends and family that had very bad experiences with Vista.

Bottom line is this. Macs, like crossfit, work across broad modal domains, out of the box. PC's, like Globo Gym, promise you the world and leave you with a blue screen of death more often than not. If you want to see a typical PC experience, do a google search for "Windows rg edition". Click on the top hit.

That's it for me. I'll wait for a more interesting topic to waste my employer's time while reading endless posts :-)

I have worked out with BIG O before and he is a beast. As for the haters who continue to say his time and stuff is not that impressive. You all need to shut your pie hole if you are not able to even complete it yourself.

Incredibly impressive accomplishment on the video. Nice work!

Maybe I'm spoiled for all the superhuman accomplishments on the website, but I thought the intro doubting whether it could possibly be done was a bit much.

HUGE effort - but once I saw the workout description I had no doubt some of the beasts of the Xfit community are capable of completing the it (I'm not one of them), and it just takes a few months of following the site to see the awesome physical s^&t people are capable of doing.

Mac.
I own them at home, and luckily work for a company which issues me one for work. I use my Mac as a salesman, where 99% of my colleagues use PC's. Its controversial at times, I get the occasional "wow your computer is so confusing." When I use a PC I literally feel like I am in a box, constrained, claustrophobic, etc etc.

I don't think anyone actually chooses to use a PC over a Mac, PC's are just the status quo, they are cheap, mass produced and readily available. Kind of like fast food, people are conditioned to just "not go against the grain." You have to go a bit out of your way to own and use a Mac, but it is more than worth it.

PC. Just because that's all I've ever had and it suits my needs.

BTW I love my Zune and am stoked that a 120g just came out. 250 bones @ wally world!!!

McCain = Apple G2
Obama = PC / Mac
Palin = Palm Pilot
Ron Paul = Ubuntu

After my Vista machine crashed again this morning, I can definitely say MAC.
We have two Mac's in the family the laptop is over 5 years old and has performed beautifully (with kids abusing it to no end), I have replaced my pc laptop twice in that time period. After this one goes I will try to never buy another pc again, the mac is just so superior and much more reliable.

Once you go mac you never go back.

I've used Macs, plenty of them. I always feel like I can't do enough with them, because Apple doesn't like allowing people free-reign to do whatever they want with the products they buy. Loved my iPod Nano, because I could put vPod on it and bypass iTunes, and I love my iPod Touch 2.0 because it's jailbroken and I don't have to pay for apps (how it should be). I love XP because I can tweak the hell out of it. But Linux takes the cake, because the assistance online is superb, I can customize it how I want, and it runs on PC machinery, which I can upgrade at will without completely voiding any warranty(s) I might have.

Linux tops all.

Both - I like how a PC operates but MAC has all the new "toys"

King Kong Vid's Music should be CROSSFIT'S NATIONAL ANTHEM! LONG LIVE METALLICA!

I like Mac better. I have a macbook and i don't have any complaints about it. I think that macs are more user friendly than pc and the customer service at apple is really good too. With mac, making updates and installing new hardware and software is very easy too.

Re: Comment #155 - Posted by: Linker

What's your squat clean? The most I've ever done was 242, so I'm almost there. I'd say it would take about a month of training for both of us to be able to complete "King Kong"

Mac 125
PC 5

No surprise here. Most Crossfitters are hardly "go with the crowd" people. We think for ourselves and are focussed on end results, not doing what every "muscle head" in the local "box gym" is pretending to do.

Open source is a concept in continued development. And although we as consumers like the idea of choosing between Mac and PC, the reality is when you reach a certain level of computer technology,

it is all the same thing... zero's and one's.

Kind of like the government. We are all fooled into thinking we are expressing ourselves by voting for one of two parties (2 perceived choices).

But, when you get to a certain level in politics they are all just the same...zero and one's. They are the "one's" and we-the masses are the controllable "zero's".

With continued development, "open source" and sharing on the internet it may all soon be moot.

We'll all be accessing the internet, everything with be on the internet and the computer we use will simply be an expression of our individuality.

Arguably, the same could be said for one world government or at least one world currency.

Crossfit already has and will just continue to compile more "evidence based training facts". The only defense for the uneducated and misinformed muscle heads will be to give baseless and emotional attacks on Crossfit. Sorry, but how much you can "bench" and how long you can drag your sorry a*s on a treadmill, does not hold a candle to a "Fran time" in functionality, translation into a measurement of true fitness and communicability.

3,2,1...GO....REST!

27 / m / 5"11 / 162 lbs

Im a day behind and didnt do the dead lift WOD this week.

"Murphy"
1 mile
100 pull ups
200 push ups
300 squats
1 mile

*I partitioned the resistance to 10/20/30 X10

38:46

dmitri jones
1-95
2-115
3-115
4-125
5-135

I'm pretty darn thrilled just to live in a country where you can afford to own a personal computer and bother to argue about which kind is better. Pretty sweet. Enjoy what you can afford and beyond that don't worry about it.

#59 Ashley -- Are your friends looking at a bunch of porno in order to get all of those viruses? I've had my PC laptop since fall of 2004, and it's still running strong (it wasn't that great when I got it, so I added some RAM to it). A computer will respond to what you do with it, and that means taking care of it will help keep it around longer.

I'm not a fan of iPods at all, so I guess I'm a PC dude, even though I don't have a lot of experience on Macs.

great work matt. i've got about 5 or 6 now (all beginners) doing CF here at GAFB.

mac

#147 RUDY-

Way to represent CROSSFIT ALEXANDRIA!!! I miss the Bolling AFB CrossFit morning workouts. I am very impressed with Big O's strength and power.

Question - Anyone is San Diego know of a CrossFit gym on one of the area bases? I know there are many affiliates but I am a cheap bastard and would rather not pay to have my a$$ handed to me on a daily basis.

Navy Chief, Navy Pride!

M/37/185-
Wednesday October 15 2008
Full Squats with Dead lifts
135x10
185x10
225x10
275x10
Walking Lunges with Olympic bar over head with hyperextensions
21 steps with 45 lb bar over head with 50 Hyperextensions
21 steps with 65 lb bar over head with 50 Hyperextensions
21 steps with 85 lb bar over head with 50 Hyperextensions
Burpees with Pull ups
10 burpees x 10 pull ups
10 burpees x 10 pull ups
10 burpees x 10 pull ups
Time- 37 mins
Could have gone much faster, but we were coming up with the exercises as we went along. Started as a heavy squat day, but we became bored and wanted to kick it up a notch…

Had a PFT today. Run wasn't so hot. 24:07 but i got the 100 and 20 sans problem. looks like there are a lot of sprints in my future.

Mac, is there anything else?

I say we all beat the hell out of each other with our pocket protectors!!!!

I am a little of both. PC and Mac. Gotta be to get the job done.

Dear God, I have come to hate PC operating systems. I would go Mac in a heartbeat. When our current laptop and desktop go TU, I will not be buying another PC. Garbage...

Great video and effort!! To all you folks stating that this person or that could crush the time and go sub 5 or 4 minutes. Please consider Big O's CrossFit stats: 2:36 Fran and 30rd of Cindy, 535 DL and 305 Clean. That dudes got metcon and power, there may be guys who can beat the time but I don't know about crushing it. We'll have to see. Thankyou Alexandria for the challenge.

Mac

Both OS X and Windows XP are good operating systems. I prefer OS X but that is mostly cosmetic. If I were into maintaining my own system I'd go with some flavor of Linux. Since that's not what I'm into I go for the full-support of consumer hardware and consumer software.

The problem I have seen with PCs is that people often cheap-out on them and get crappy hardware. Apple provides tested, high quality hardware at a high price. You can get the same thing from decent PC manufacturers, most people just don't want to pay.

Give me a PC. You can have your MAC to draw your cute little pictures or post photo's to your blog that no one reads.

Mac all the way.

Try and edit a video on a PC and then compare it to a Mac with Final Cut, and see who wins.

Photoshop.. Mac Owns it.

As far as office products, I have both Apple's iWork, and Microsoft Office 2007 for Mac. Both perform amazing.

I own a iMac 24", I have had it for about 6 months. I love it. I still have a PC which will soon be going on craigslist and sold to a poor poor soul who is still with the status quo.

Have been a PC user all my life, and got a MacBook Pro 3 weeks ago.

I like the Mac's user interface, but am still having trouble transitioning. Checking emails is easier using Outlook than Entourage. Many of my work applications don't work on Mac, so I have to use VMFusion. VPN doesn't work on Mac!

And the COST - my MacBook Pro is over three grand. Luckily my company paid for it :)

But my kids think I am cool now, so it pays for the aggravation of transitioning.

I was absolutely exhausted yesterday. Took it as a rest day with walking only and at that about fell asleep walking ;)

Today:

DL rep 3: 155-185-190-195 (PR)-200 (PR)
FS rep 5: 95-105- (115x7x3)- (115x8x2)- 110

Felt good. Could have gone even higher on DL. Was tiring out on FS and really hit max for today. My 1 rep ME for FS I believe is 145 so theoretically I am at 108 for rep of 5 which sounds about right. I am so close to 115 though… but that means theoretically I should have been able to get 209 for DL rep 3 with ME rep 1 at 225…
Erin

Apple.

12" Powerbook.

Found this quote by Charles Poliquin:

What do you think of that Crossfit stuff?

A: "I have no clue what the hell that is. Is that one of those systems that's a mish-mash of everything?"

"Wait, I saw on article on that in Muscle & Fatness. Looked like a bunch of cachexic fitness-model wannabes searching for their souls in the weight room."

"It reminds me of a Hungarian proverb: "If you only have one ass, you can't sit on two horses." If you try to do everything in your workout, you get nothing."

"Another way to look at it is to think of Tim Ferris's example of wearing your underwear over your pants. It's different, and maybe even fun for some people, but it's not very effective."

"No athlete has ever gotten good training like that."

Charles Poliquin is supposed to be a well respected strength coach from Canada. I was a bit surprised at his comment. Does anyonehere know him?

if you have to ask you must be on a PC or you would know...

oops- that was FS rep of 10!

As many in the CF community probably do, I like to take stuff apart, make it better, and put it back together. (was doing dips on my homemade rings yesterday)
Therefore -PC for me.

Last week I went to frys' and baught a DVD writer for about $40 and a SATA cord for about $8 and in 20 minutes I had installed and was burning a DVD of 'Heroes' (the show not the WODs although that would be cool...)

I've installed a 2nd hard drive just for storing movies so I have about 800gig storage.

Can a MAC be torn appart and upgraded with no tech help and for under $100?

I got nothin against MAC's. I'm just sayin'...

MAC!

I just bought mine a few months ago... I "made the transformation..."

Although I used to be known as the Excel pro at my work... now I have to learn this whole Numbers thing. I will love it, I am sure. :)

IMAC & MACBOOK!

CF Spokane Valley!

I did the "dad" workout again; not sure what my problem was, but I was at 19:35, up from 16:34. Maybe it was because I did it at the end of the day instead of the beginning,or maybe it was my diet for the day. In any case, it kicked my ass as before, only harder. I hurt all night after that.

40 lb sandbag, 4 revolutions:
400 meters, 50 squats

k. kibbe said

"

"...Then I played with OS X for 15 mins. Went home and started selling all my PC stuff. It's just better. The hardware is better, sure you can get a Smell for 600 bucks, but try putting that against an 8 core, 32 gigs of ram, 4 terabytes of storage and a 2 gig SLI graphics in a Mac pro.... that Smell is now WAY more expensive than a Mac. (This fact has been proven by MANY PC publications)..."

If you price out "8 core, 32 gigs of ram, 4 terabytes of storage and a 2 gig SLI graphics in a Mac pro" on the Apple eStore it comes to over $23,000.00

I sure hope it would beat the $600 pc, otherwise I'd say you got f'ed.

I don't understand the fanboy mentality. I have both, but only prefer the 24" iMac when websurfing or viewing photos b/c of the big screen. I don't think the OS is really that special. I use the PC for gaming & development work. I say PC b/c I built my last CPU - spec'd out w/ all the best parts. I only have to upgrade the CPU & graphics card every 3-4 yrs & I'm getting 2-3 times the longevity and better performance for about the same price.

Funny thing is I wanted to get a cheap new laptop & was going to get a MacBook (new models out today), but there's no longer a firewire port on the new model. What are they thinking? Sorry, Mr. Jobs, I'm not going to spend over $2k on a MacBook Pro for a freaking port. PC's are half price. I was going to buy AAPL but I can't see it being an easy time for them in recession times.

Mac OS all the way. BeOS anyone?

since I am unable to see the video, can someone please write out what the KingKong WOD is?

solid work big O.. watch out for a video coming out of crossfitcentral in the next week or so on the challenge you guy's put up!

Simply awesome Matt!
Truly impressive, those squat cleans looked vicious (and deep!) I sure wouldn't want to be on any side but yours, cheers man!

I rest on sat and sun. Did Murph with 21 lb vest.
37:45. Cramped up on the last mile which cost me a minute or so. Still beat my PR by 1:45

Murph is beast. Michael P. Murphy was a stud.

Oh yeah PC > Mac. Windows has to run on any configuration. If you think about it, it's amazing that it works as well as it does. Mac's OS works fine because it only has to work on Mac's.

I built a Q66000, 8800 GTS gaming rig with Vista this year. Vista works great. I've got very few complaints with it.

I work with both Mac & PC everyday and after careful consideration of all the pros and cons...Paper & Pencil wins. Very portable, fits in your pcoket. Can play games, Tic-Tac-Toe, Hang-Man, etc. Great graphics (well, this really depends on ability). Minium impact on the earth (if recycled). I could just go on and on.

Did my first Crossfit WOD yesterday! Kinda weenied out on squat clean and nor sure I did GHD right but it's a start! Definately not ready for "King Kong"

Mac.

Apparently I did back extensions instead of GHD, what an idiot! We'll try again today.

#243 Rob - Go Big Red

It's hard to say "Ok, you are right and I am wrong". But when someone makes an irrefutable point, you must, or risk becoming less of a man.

So I must say: "Ok, you are right and I am wrong". Mac and PC are both far inferior to paper and pencil.

While everyone disputes Mac vs PC, you have hit the nail on the head. Well done sir!!

MAC plain and simple. MUCH easier to use than a PC that is now extinct...we have not 1, not 2, but 3 MACS.

making up the last 3 days. Schedule was off b/c of a Sunday trip to NYC with our girls to see the statue of Liberty.

I work in IT Support for a company with 15000 employees and 11000 PCs. Have worked with Windows since 3.1 and Mac OS since summer 1984. Typing this on my Dell laptop (purchased by my employer), but my own money is spent on the OS-unlimited machines from Apple.

That having been said, I agree that non-Apple HW is better for gamers and tinkerers, as well as those interested in the cheapest possible machines. Compare HW spec for spec and Apple is in most cases NOT more expensive, they just don't offer as wide a range of products.

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King Kong... you ain't kidding! I'd have to use his squat clean bar for my deadlifts and do the squat cleans with 155 to come even close.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14915-a-short-heel-helps-runners-go-the-distance.html

The link is about anatomical variances that improve running ability. Unfortunately the variances are genetic.

Mac. Since 1990.

i like the idea of "king kong." think i would lighten the weight some (like 400 and 200) and maybe do like 7 or 10 rounds. great work though. a ton of weight (actually more than a ton and a half) and done with very solid form. impressive for sure.

wanted to do something today

did Jackie since I have never got to do that one

1000 meter row subbed 100 SDHP 45#
Thruster 45 lbs (50 reps)
Pull-ups (30 reps)

all sets broken 12:30

PC, because Macs are overpriced, undersupported and I just can't stand the "lifestlye", from the commercials to the users who have to remind you every five minutes they own a Mac.

It's been five minutes!

I own a mac!!!

Slow Cookers:

Students on a Budget who want to Zone: research getting a slow cooker.

I recently bought a 6-quart slow cooker and have made a few recipes from my Zone cookbook and others that I have downloaded off the net. Results are good to excellent.

Recently, a student was asking about a cheap way to zone, and I think using a slow cooker is the way. You can get a smaller one, like a 4-quart and make several reheatable meals. I just made a zone friendly 3-bean chili and it turned out pretty good and I have done a couple of roasts. I double the recipes in my cooker and have lots of leftovers that I freeze into single servings (Using the cheap plastic Ziplock resealable containers. If I lose one, who cares, and they are reusable).

The slow cookers can be safely cooking on low while you are in class or working. I have a programmable one that I put on in the am when I go off to work and after it finishes cooking, it turns to "warm" setting.

Do some research and google for zone friendly slow cooker recipes and you may find it suits your lifestyle and budget.

If anyone has any tips or links to great recipes, hope to see them on Rest Day.

Cheers, RD

No rest for me, did heavy Cindy (21 lbs consisting of 2 ten lb. plates and all the crap that is normally in my pack) 15 rounds in 20 minutes. Getting ready to do Murph on the 22nd, that is going to be hard and I have serious doubts whether I can make it weighted or should stick to no weight for now. Will be a game-day decision.

did the final workout from crossfit games 08'...

30- squat clean jerk/press/ thruster

took me 15mins at the games, it only took 8minutes today, very pleased with my effort.

Definitely a Mac.

I love the photo with the yolked up crossfitter with the even hotter crossfitter in the background in the front rack position. Women who crossfit are just hot.

M/22/66"/175 - 95 lb. front squats and sit-ups, stayed with work out format.

Interesting how the rabid Mac followers tend to take the question "Mac or PC?" as meaning "Which one is better?" rather than "Which one do you use?"

It seems the market has spoken on the latter point.

Im taking the next few days off to rest up for the Grappler's Quest here in NJ on Saturday. After playing coach for my friends who did their workout today, we messed around with the rings...

FIRST MUSCLE UP.

(my friend Pat also did his first today as well).

I went to the doctor with the following symptoms:

1) Drooling uncontrollably
2) Very aggressive
3) Terrified of water
4) Constantly checking MacRumors.com
5) Telling anyone who will listen (every 5 minutes) that I own a Mac

The doctor diagnosed me as a "Rabid Mac Follower"
Then I tried to bite him.

Hmmm... Weird.

KevinT,
Great job getting that first muscle up! It takes a lot of hard work to get strong enough for that. Now you get to trash yourself in WODs like Nasty Girls and Nate! :-)

Linux...followed by Windows and Mac only if it's a pirated copy of OSX

I'm a power user...went to Mac for a while, couldn't do anything fun (no modding, little hacking, no custom hardware or firmware upgrades/add-ons), plus my iMac froze/crashed about 90% more than my Vista and XP boxes.

Too expensive, a PC/Linux distro will do anything and more that a Mac will do, for less money.

and yes, the iPod no es bueno

I'm with you Matt #264, Linux all the way. Had Vista for games but had to upgrade to XP to get most of them to work.

Anthony (M/29/168)

"King Kong"
3 rounds of:
1 Deadlift 455 pounds
2 Muslceups
3 Squat Cleans 250 pounds
4 Handstand Pushups

Time: 6:50

This was interesting. The deadlift, mu, and hspu are pretty easy for me. But my max clean is actually 255, so nine reps at 250 was intimidating to say the least. I actually failed my first two attempts and wasted about a minute trying to recover (mentally and physically). Once I found my groove I was fine - barely broke a sweat.

I'm pretty sure if I had a do-over when I was fresh (today was supposed to be a rest day) I'd chop this down to the 5 minute range. I do have it on video, but it's from a phone and quality is very poor.

I expect the firebreathers to tear this one apart.

Needed to do something so ran a mile

6:45 awaiting tommorows fun

F/28/114

Grace RX'ed: Love this workout!!!

4:23 PR last time 5:52

m/34/70/190

had to try this one

9:42 w/ one bar, 465 deads and 255sc
i used a different weight because i had to use one bar and change the weight each time and i dont have 2.5# plates.255 is my max squat clean and form was not great, but it was a squat clean.
no bumpers, no drops, no belts ,no wraps, no straps.

call me old fashion...but i prefer the feel of a typewriter.

BTW Great video and strong work Big O!
I wish my squat cleans looked that good.

McCain = Abacus

Palin = Counting on fingers and toes

King Kong Was Awesome! Coach should totally make it an official WOD, but scale it down a bit for us wee ones.

Question for CrossFit as rehab.
My friend is recovering from a brain tumor and the subsequent treatment. He is been in remission about a year and wants to start getting active again. He's lost a lot of muscle and due to the chemo has lost a good deal of mobility in one leg.
We were talking tonight about activities he can do. I get the feeling he has been introduced to exercises for the "disabled" and doesn't want to feel like that label applies to him. So, especially after seeing Mr. Maynard, I think that CF could work for him.
I have been Cfing for about a year (with great results), but I don't have the knowledge to coach him. Can anyone point me in a good direction? We live in the Philadelphia (PA) area.

Thanks everyone.

p.s. Mac, all the way, I have been a true Apple user since my Apple IIc.

That depends on whether you're talking about the hardware or the operating system. In the hardware arena, PC is open, mac is closed. PC also happens to be better in general...hence the reason that MacOS now runs on PCs. If you're talking about the operating system, then the question is MacOS vs Windows. In that case, I think it's pretty clear that MacOS is better. Although the question totally ignores other good operating systems such as Linux (my personal favorite, and free btw). There's a pattern here. Open hardware architectures, open-source operating systems, and of course open-source fitness. :)

CHECK THIS OUT!!

At a computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated: "If GM had kept up with the technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon."

In response to Bill's comments, General Motors issued a press release (by Mr. Welch himself) stating:

If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics:

1. For no reason at all, your car would crash twice a day.

2. Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you would have to buy a new car.

3. Occasionally, executing a manoeuver such as a left-turn would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, and you would have to reinstall the engine.

4. When your car died on the freeway for no reason, you would just accept this, restart and drive on.

5. Only one person at a time could use the car, unless you bought 'Car95' or 'CarNT', and then added more seats.

6. Apple would make a car powered by the sun, reliable, five times as fast, and twice as easy to drive, but would run on only five per cent of the roads.

7. Oil, water temperature and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single 'general car default' warning light.

8. New seats would force every-one to have the same size butt.

9. The airbag would say 'Are you sure?' before going off.

10. Occasionally, for no reason, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key, and grabbed the radio antenna.

11. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of road maps from Rand-McNally (a subsidiary of GM), even though they neither need them nor want them. Trying to delete this option would immediately cause the car's performance to diminish by 50 per cent or more. Moreover, GM would become a target for investigation by the Justice Department.

12. Every time GM introduced a new model, car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car.

13. You would press the 'start' button to shut off the engine.

Here's the month to date percentage breakout by operating system for visits to CrossFit.com:

Windows XP 63.81
Windows Vista 17.75
Macintosh 14.11
Windows 2000 2.29
Linux 0.79
Wireless Devices 0.61
Other 0.4
Windows 98 0.13
Windows ME 0.06
Windows 95 0.03
Windows NT 0.02
Sun SunOS 0
Windows CE 0
Windows 3.x 0
Misc. Unix 0
FreeBSD 0
WebTV 0
IBM OS/2 0

I'd like to do a special reach out to our solitary OS/2 user: never give up the fight!

One day behind. Completed yesterday’s CFE (modified) and WOD:

CFE: run 3 x 1000m all-out with 5 min rest in between. (Don’t have access to the 20-lbs vest we were supposed to wear, hence “modified.”)
Times: 4:19, 4:09, 4:09

WOD: 8:46 as rx’d

I will never own another PC and if you todo something in a PC environment then buy VMware Fusion. I have a blk Macbook and will be buying another soon.

Thanks Brian.
Funny how many MAC posts there are here for such a small percent of the market. It's like the vocal minority-
Sort of like the liberals. It appears that liberal socialism is taking over but really they are just making more noise.

(there, that should stir the s**t)

I'm a PC

I had to workout today as I missed a couple WODs over last week because of work.

AM: Did G.I. Jane(100 burpees / 100 pullups) for the first time in 28:00 mins. Not great compared to Greg A's.(around 10 mins).

PM: Played hockey for 90 mins.

I came across this article a few minutes ago, regarding a synopsis of the Zone. It makes for pathetic reading, but also indicates just how much bad information is out there.

http://www.my-crockpot-recipes.com/Zone-Diet.htm

caught up on Mr. Joshua
As RX'D:

21:21

by the way, that king kong video is amazing

own a mac and PC at home, 6 pc's at my office and have owned more than another 8 pc's over the past 10 years. No comparison for reliability, ease of use, fun Mac has it. PC is necessary to run business applications running a medical office. All of my PC's have problems 10/1 more frequent and problematic that those of the MAC. I will always have both, couldn't live without my MAC

Macs All the way

17" macbook pro
17" imac
2 ipods
2 iphones (old and 3G)
ipod nano
soon to have apple tv

really - can you post the wod before 1030pm-ish eastern time? I'm sure i'm not the only one who lives on the east coast, works out in the morning, and goes to work...

I hate MAC OS

WOD sucked today real bad. It took me over 24 hrs.

As for mac or pc, I own a dell that has lasted since 05 with few problems and I own an iPhone. Like both and don't think it really matters. Use whatever floats ur boat

Comment #287 - Posted by: bedtime:

"really - can you post the wod before 1030pm-ish eastern time? I'm sure i'm not the only one who lives on the east coast, works out in the morning, and goes to work..."

REALLY! Why don't you just call Coach directly and ask for the WOD in advance?

Seriously, just make up a WOD if you're wanting to get to bed.

Goodnight!

I'd make a negative comment about the weight belt, but I don't see me trying King Kong anytime soon.

Outstanding effort!

34yom/170/6'

Self made workout today 25:46:
row 1500m
10 ring dips
row 1000m
20 ring dips
row 500m
30 ring dips

Dang! That vid was freaking impressive. I hope to one day get to that. Nice work Big O. You should change your name to kin kong

Mac, all the time.

Moleskin notebook and India ink pen. When I need to a do a technical diagram, a Strathmore sketch pad.

Mac notebook and an India Ink Pen.

MAc or PC?

I personally hate this discussion. Slow news day eh? I would think that most CrossFitters would use whichever tool works best for them, whether it be a Mac, a windows based PC, Linux/Unix, or stylus and wax tablet (my personal favorite).

Personally, I prefer the DEC VAX. Seriously. I got a bit of work done on one when at UC. The shortcuts were pretty easy after a while. And while I'm typing this on a Mac, I could just as easily be using a PC Running DOS 6.0. Why?

I was probably more productive running a CLI. Well, I feel I got more actual work done. Also, there were less infotainment distractions like YouTube to annoy me. The commenter that suggested "pencil and paper" hit the nail on the head.

One thing that all modern computers lack is a decent keyboard. I still have My IBM "clicky" with the mechanical keyswitches. It is miles better than any keyboard bundled with any computer nowadays.

Comment #110, saulj: Shimano or Campy? For road, Shimano, tho Campy has really improved since the late 80's. I think the Dura-Ace gruppo is pretty solid.

But as I don't ride road anymore, the more appropriate argument is:

Shimano or SRAM?
Fox or Marzocchi?
26" or 29er?
Geared or SS?

;-)

neither - build yer own comp and use linux - UBUNTU to be precise... better than a mac... oh... and its free =)

I understand the question to be McCain or Political Correctness.

Actually, I understand the subtext to be latent despair about the ratiocinative and perceptual capacity of Americans. What is the point in trying to have substantive discussions when the mass bulk of our nation has turned into Obama-bots? I have been accused in the last week by a friend of racism by pointing to the fact that Obama is manifestly, documentably, either a liar or an idiot, in that he can't possibly come close to keeping all of his promises.

If you look at his website, the only sacrifice he asks anyone anywhere to make is that he will raise taxes some 2% of the top 2% of Americans. He will increase our expenditures a minimum of $400 billion--with the actual total likely much higher than that--and he states, in his usual clear, measured, quietly passionate prose, that he will balance the budget, since this is a necessity.

I am reminded of the movie "Matchstick Men", where Nicholas Cage and his Sam Rockwell con a couple over the phone, then show up a couple months later pretending to be FBI agents, get all their credit card numbers "to conduct an investigation", or something like that, then steal their money again.

All the people who borrowed money they couldn't afford to pay back feel cheated. They are going to rectify things by electing someone who will cheat them again. Debt is bad. Debt after you've lost your job because the economy tanked after a generous application of leftism is quite another.

I read Saul Alinsky's book "Rules for Radicals". Obama's playbook is straight out of it. He has ALWAYS credited the teachings of Alinsky for his success.

First off, Alinsky realized that notoriety is actually a good thing. He actually brags about how the community reaction in Rochester, New York to his coming there--one filled with charges of moral corruption, Marxism, and a desire to shatter common sense social order--actually helped him. In his view, the alienated "have not" figured that if the Establishment hated him so much, he must have something going for him.

We see this in Obama. Once you have made that conversion, to seeing lights in the sky when he speaks, literally nothing anyone says is going to cause you to think anything other than that person is crazy or a racist. Likely both.

Secondly, you have to understand him as a gangster. Alinsky literally associated with the Chicago underworld as a sociologist, and took the basic principles of extortion to the execution of his self admitted Marxist beliefs.

Part of this process is portraying your enemies as evil, and yourself as saintly, all the while practicing the most Machiavellian tricks imaginable.

Obama doesn't need to go negative for the simple reason that leftists have been rewriting history literally while it happened for the last eight years. All he has to do is point to Bush, then link McCain to him. Leftists also triumphed in the truth war about Vietnam, and have made significant gains in eradicating our common culture in favor of one based on universal tolerance, recycling, and organic farming.

Finally, I wanted to point out that Alinsky is very practical and clear in his demand that would be organizers use the language and manners of those they wanted to organize, which is codespeak for "manipulate to form a mass capable of extorting concessions from the enemy of the moment".

"[The organizer] learns the local legends, anecdotes, values, idioms. He listens to small talk. He refrains from rhetoric foreign to the local culture; he knows that worn out words like "white racist", "fascist pig", and "mother@#$%^" have been so spewed about that using them is now within the negative experience of the local people, seving only to identify the speaker as "one of those nuts" and to turn off any further communication."

Mike Kruglik, who called himself Alinsky's "St. Paul" (note the latent evangelic attachment) said Obama was the best student he ever had. Given this, we can expect he would never be dumb enough to use language that reflects his true radicalism.

Please note, though, that Alinksy is fully sympathetic to the use of those words. That's where he lived, and that's where Obama, too, appears to live. None of us would have chosen Bill Ayers to host our coming out party.

On that note, as well, it's worth noting the Annenburg Foundation was dedicated to community organizing along Alinsky's principles. Logically, if you get the kids riled up young enough, you can do what you want.

You have only to look back 70 years to see the power of what you can accomplish "if you get them young enough."

I think the goose is cooked. Maybe I'm wrong, but the communication path from conservatives to the Middle is blocked, clogged with the hopes and fears Obama has successfully accessed with his skilled and disingenuous rhetoric.

What remains is to use his own tactics against him. More on that in another post, or elsewhere.

ABBOTT AND COSTELLO BUY A COMPUTER

You have to be old enough to remember Abbott and Costello, and too
old to REALLY understand computers, to fully appreciate this.

For those of us who sometimes get flustered by our computers, please
read on...

If Bud Abbott and Lou Costello were alive today, their infamous
sketch, "Who's on First?" might have turned out something like this:

COSTELLO CALLS TO BUY A COMPUTER FROM ABBOTT

ABBOTT: Super Duper computer store. Can I help you?
COSTELLO: Thanks. I'm setting up an office in my den and I'm
thinking about buying a computer.
ABBOTT: Mac?
COSTELLO: No, the name's Lou.
ABBOTT: Your computer?
COSTELLO: I don't own a computer. I want to buy one.
ABBOTT: Mac?
COSTELLO: I told you, my name's Lou.
ABBOTT: What about Windows?
COSTELLO: Why? Will it get stuffy in he re?
ABBOTT: Do you want a computer with Windows?
COSTELLO: I don't know. What will I see when I look at the windows?
ABBOTT: Wallpaper.
COSTELLO: Never mind the windows. I need a computer and software.
ABBOTT: Software for Windows?
COSTELLO: No. On the computer! I need something I can use to write
proposals and track expenses and run my business. What do you have?
ABBOTT: Office.
COSTELLO: Yeah, for my office. Can you recommend anything?
ABBOTT: I just did.
COSTELLO: You just did what?
ABBOTT: Recommend something.
COSTELLO: You recommended something?
ABBOTT: Yes.
COSTELLO: For my office?
ABBOTT: Yes.
COSTELLO: OK, what did you recommend for my office?
ABBOTT: Office.
COSTELLO: Yes, for my office!
ABBOTT: I recommend Office with Windows.
COSTELLO: I already have an office with windows! OK, let's just say
I'm sitting at my computer and I want to type a proposal. What do I
need?
ABBOTT: Word.
COSTELLO: What word?
ABBOTT: Word in Office.
COSTELLO: The only word in office is office.
ABBOTT: The Word in Office for Windows.
COSTELLO: Which word in office for windows?
ABBOTT: The Word you get when you click the blue "W".
COSTELLO: I'm going to click your blue "w" if you don't start with
some straight answers. What about financial bookkeeping? You have
anything I can track my money with?
ABBOTT: Money.
COSTELLO: That's right. What do you have?
ABBOTT: Money.
COSTELLO: I need money to track my money?
ABBOTT: It comes bundled with your computer.
COSTELLO: What's bundled with my computer?
ABBOTT: Money.
COSTELLO: Money comes with my computer?
ABBOTT: Yes. No extra charge.
COSTELLO: I get a bundle of money with my computer? How much?
ABBOTT: One copy.
COSTELLO: Isn't it illegal to copy money?
ABBOTT: Microsoft gave us a license to copy Money.
COSTELLO: They can give you a license to copy money?
ABBOTT: Why not? THEY OWN IT!

(A few days later)

ABBOTT: Super Duper computer store. Can I help you?
COSTELLO: How do I turn my computer off?
ABBOTT: Click on "START".............

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I have an iMac
If/when I get around to a laptop, it's going to be one of sweet aluminum macbooks, however, I think I might go with a open source (some form of linux like Ubuntu) on a 'net-book', which has the power a decent laptop had a few years ago for only two or three hundred bucks.

Linux

Track work:
Rd 1
1 x 800--3:31, rest 3:31
Rd 2
1 x 800--3:16, rest 3:16
1 x 400--1:32, rest 1:32
1 x 400--1:33, rest 1:33
Rd 3
1 x 800--3:27, rest 3:27
1 x 200--:44, rest :44
1 x 200--:42, rest :42
1 x 200--:40, rest :40
1 x 200--:40, rest :40
Cooldown and stretch

Temp at 29 P: 85 deg

25/M/175
14:25
Sub'd GHD w/ swiss ball and feet secured

My MAC crashed. Seriously. It was acting just fine, then one morning, it froze, and now it won't boot up past the "DOS" screen, keeps bitching about an invalid argument. I didn't think Macs crashed? Or at least gave proper warning?

So I'm stuck with my work PC. But I loved my Mac.

ran 5k... warmup for 1st 800m, 22:49

PC, and like dani, I hate ipods. If you need more proof check out maddox.xmission.com and go to the post entitled "what can pc users do that mac users can't"

Derek (i think thats you in the picture) you'll always be Sgt Pflugenheimen to me! haha. BTW get a haircut you nasty

I haven't tried snatches yet but i am getting stronger and closer. Today I did 5 rounds pull-ups, dips, overhead squat. Used 55lb on the over head squats and did a minimum of 10 each round. 12-15 average i guess. Once i can put some weight on the overhead squats i will start with snatches

bum knee--20 min bike warm up 13/25
5 sets: 25 sit ups, 25 back extensions = 12:17

King Kong by Willie Albert

Time - 3:57

Bodyweight 181lbs
Performed as Rx'd

http://www.crossfitottawa.com/blog/?p=267

Heck, nice post Pierre! Thanks for the great coaching while I was in Canada!

ran 47 min

PC -- grudgingly.

Have a Ubuntu CD sitting here but thought about ALL the software I'd need to replace and the new monitor I would need to get because there aren't drivers for my Samsung 214T.

Ok this is a little late but, in the ton of the Zen remark (minus using the word "stupid") I say linux.

I would hazard to guess that most people use there computers to email, browse the web and process words. I certainly do. I appreciate Linux because while I can certain run in on a super powerful machine and serve video, play games and crunch big numbers I can also install in on just about any box I might find at goodwill or find on the side of the road.

What's great is that it is my choice.

Free, effective and scalable: sound familiar?