April 23, 2008

Wednesday 080423

Rest Day

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CrossFit by Overload: The Transformation - video [wmv] [mov]


"Big Fat Lies" with Gary Taubes - The Stevens Institute of Technology

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Posted by lauren at April 23, 2008 3:30 PM
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I'm calling the phone number on that truck right now...

Comment #1 - Posted by: jon h at April 22, 2008 8:34 PM

That was purely epic. I mean awesome. That Box looks great I would love to workout there sometime.

Comment #2 - Posted by: Bryant at April 22, 2008 8:39 PM

That was purely epic. I mean awesome. That Box looks great I would love to workout there sometime.

Comment #3 - Posted by: Bryant at April 22, 2008 8:39 PM

Man, I got chills from that video. How exciting!

Comment #4 - Posted by: A_Martinez m/25/160/5'6" at April 22, 2008 8:40 PM

Awesome video.

I want to train there.

So much room.

Comment #5 - Posted by: Justin McGinley at April 22, 2008 8:42 PM

Nice truck

Comment #6 - Posted by: vigilantesniper at April 22, 2008 8:45 PM

Jordan! Great video. I'm proud to work out there and work together with you guys! Looking forward to Friday...

Comment #7 - Posted by: mikee at April 22, 2008 8:47 PM

that was a really cool video...looks like a great place.

Comment #8 - Posted by: MikeG_CFATL at April 22, 2008 8:49 PM

O-mazing!

Comment #9 - Posted by: Carl Paoli at April 22, 2008 8:55 PM

WOW what a MOTO video!
If that doesn't make you want to open your own Gym I don't know what will.

Comment #10 - Posted by: T. SEGUR at April 22, 2008 8:57 PM

I'm in the top 10. woohoo

Comment #11 - Posted by: Keith M at April 22, 2008 8:57 PM

looking forward to my "active rest" tomorrow. i'm running a 10k for the Big Bothers Big Sisters foundation. I hate running further than I can see. wish me luck.

stay classy

Comment #12 - Posted by: sleeveless in seattle at April 22, 2008 8:57 PM

Darn missed it by one...anyway, what time do they post the next day's crossfit?

Comment #13 - Posted by: Keith M at April 22, 2008 8:58 PM

People who post that there are in the top whatever for posts need to find a more stimulating use of their time.

Comment #14 - Posted by: gaucoin at April 22, 2008 9:02 PM

Jordan and Paula,

You guys are definitely on the map! Keep up the great work!

Comment #15 - Posted by: tonyd at April 22, 2008 9:06 PM

I think the last part of the soundtrack was from Batman Begins, am I wrong? And what was the rest of it from?

Comment #16 - Posted by: michigan at April 22, 2008 9:08 PM

Very nice work, I am jealous. Kidding no jealousy, that has to be one of my favorite crossfit videos, def top 10.

Comment #17 - Posted by: angelo sub250finally at April 22, 2008 9:13 PM

It may have been in Batman Begins as well, but it was definitely the on the Transformers movie soundtrack.

Comment #18 - Posted by: Fountain at April 22, 2008 9:15 PM

Great video--it looks like a great place to train!

Comment #19 - Posted by: Shane S at April 22, 2008 9:31 PM

Stevens Tech! I never thought I'd see the day that my school made the website. Believe it or not, there are a few crossfitters that train in the varsity weight room there including myself. The facilities are very conducive to crossfit workouts.

Comment #20 - Posted by: Brian R at April 22, 2008 9:32 PM

Great Video...

Comment #21 - Posted by: KJK at April 22, 2008 9:45 PM

#21 WWCD? I second that lol

The little girl in the video is absolutely adorable!!!

Comment #22 - Posted by: leah at April 22, 2008 9:51 PM

Awesome video! What, if anything, do these folks need? In any event, I hope their business venture is a raging success.

Comment #23 - Posted by: Fat Slice at April 22, 2008 9:57 PM

a few questions
If anyone could help I have started my girlfriend on crossfit. The only problem is that she has asthma. I was wondering what the best way to train someone who has asthma as it seems like that is limiting her before really pushing the rest of her body. Should I treat it as if it is metabolic conditioning and it will push her lungs further and further like anyone else conditioning? Also as I looked through WOD archives it seems as though the WOD's lately are less random then in the past. I remember when i first started crossfitting and (as i remember) it seemed as though there were more WOD's that included rowing and kettle bells. To go with that it doesn't seem like the WOD's follow the theoretical crossfit template outlined in February 2003's journal. So should there be more random workout that attracted me to crossfit in the first place or follow the template? Has coach (or whoever does the WOD's) found that the WOD's posted now are better then the ones of the past? tell me if im perceiving things different from what they really are. thanks in advance.

Comment #24 - Posted by: failsoft at April 22, 2008 10:04 PM

Ok...That video gave me a stiffy, and I want to go and workout at the same time..LOL...;)

Comment #25 - Posted by: Neil at April 22, 2008 10:07 PM

that's a kicka$$ crossfit facility. nice job! and a truck to go along? for sure original. and the broken nail...i did that once with acrylics...it's no joke. dude. it hurt more than tearing my hands open by far.

Comment #26 - Posted by: sakura at April 22, 2008 10:08 PM

My humble opinion:

What's wrong with the broken fingernail? Why exactly is that unCrossfit? It's something to be proud of just as much as a rope burn on the shin, a chunk of skin left on a 24" box, or a torn blister. Hey, it was bleeding, so I figure it had to hurt like hell! I have a Crossfit Santa Cruz shirt that says "Earn Your Scars." I figure the picture was in the video because it happened during a workout or some sort of training. I would post that picture on the One World site in a heartbeat, but I would have had her holding her hand next to her face cuz I bet whoever it was had a beaming smile and was proud as hell.

Girls that get their nails done AND Crossfit? There is absolutely nothing wrong with that! Why can't a woman be fit and care about how she looks? Jolie gets her nails done and she won the Crossfit Games. Is she unCrossfit?

Happy Rest Day everyone!

Comment #27 - Posted by: freddy c._one world at April 22, 2008 10:13 PM

WWCD,
The girl who broke her acrylic nail is one of the most loyal crossfitters I know. You may remember her in the video jumping the 24" box or helping us carry every single one of those rubber stall mats into the gym on her day off (by the way her nail ripped off half way through the day). Next day she had her nails taken off and was back doing her WODs as usual, no excuses, no complaining.

Comment #28 - Posted by: Jordan at April 22, 2008 10:14 PM

This makes me proud to be a part of crossfit.

This is the facility that we all wish to train in. A place where we are welcomed instead of stared at. Congats on the completion of your wonderful black box of pain.

But remember those less fortunate who must drudge through the mass of less enlightened every day to complete our WOD alone. For i believe that they are the heart of crossfit.

For i crossfit alone,
I must go it on my own.
pointed at and misunderstood,
by those who wish they could.
i push the limits of my body
and the limits of my mind,
and leave all of the common folk,
and all the like behind.
few do come to follow me,
but who would want to try.
when the outcome is a workout,
one that makes you want to die.
But if your will is iron,
and your mind is keen and strong,
then together we will conquer all,
and prove the common wrong!

Comment #29 - Posted by: Raze at April 22, 2008 10:17 PM

Great video, congrats to the affiliate owners & the Crossfitter's who will work out there. You guy's rock! Semper Gumby!

Comment #30 - Posted by: fireguy37 at April 22, 2008 10:20 PM

WOW!

I am lost for words. That is shivers down the spine material. Just today I was thinking about when and how I want my Crossfit to look....should I wait until after I have got an OBC program up and running? etc.

That video captures what it is all about and why I need to seize the day. Bring on Oct Cert down under and then Crossfit Oz will really hit stride!

Awesome video! Well done whoever created that because it is truly brilliant.

Thanks
Tony.

Comment #31 - Posted by: Tony Wrightson at April 22, 2008 10:24 PM

I have a question about yesterday's weighted pullup workout. I got in a debate over whether one should do a kipping pullup or a dead hang pullup for a single rep weighted pullup max. I felt that a dead hang pullup was the proper way to do it because the entire motion of the pullup was being used to lift the weight. As for a kipping pullup, I felt that the kip provided momentum on the weight so that one is not really lifting the weight until the very end of the pullup. By no means am I knocking the kipping pullup, I use it all do time and I understand its benefits versus straight pullups, but in the case of a single rep weighted pullup, a straight pullup seems to me to be the way to go.

Can anyone offer a definitive answer to this? I'd greatly appreciate it.

Comment #32 - Posted by: Sam at April 22, 2008 10:25 PM

# 30 Raze

Great poem! I am one of those about whom the poem speaks. I'm lucky in that I have a gym which is almost never crowded and very few people take notice of what I do, but on the days when people do notice, I usually have some explaining to do for myself. I've learned not to say very much because most people are quite opinionated and want to follow thier own program. It's simply amazing how many people feel they are an authority on exercise and try to tell me how "wrong" I'm doing things. Well I was one of those people a year ago myself, so I don't want to criticize too much. But from now on, when others tell me I'm crazy I'll think about the words from the poem and just "prove the common wrong."

Comment #33 - Posted by: Dave in Tokyo - 24/m/5'10"/150 at April 22, 2008 10:29 PM

# 33

The way I understand it, crossfit is all about working to increase YOUR OWN performance. I'd say this comes down to personal choice. If you like to do dead hang weighted pulls ups then go for it and note the weight and the pull up type. If you end up liking to kip with weight then write that down. We could debate the pros and cons of a kip or deadhang single rep max pull up forever, but at the end of the day all that matters is that you gave it your best shot and wrote down exactly what you did so that you can try to beat that same performance next time the workout comes up. Incidentally, I tried both the kip and the dead hang and while I can do more weight with the kip (and use it for almost every workout that involves pull ups) I prefer to do deadhang weighted pullups.

Comment #34 - Posted by: Dave in Tokyo - 24/m/5'10"/150 at April 22, 2008 10:38 PM

Jordan & Paula,

From my heart...I couldn't be prouder of two better people....it has been amazing watching you both work so hard at this... from the affiliate program to todays video...WOW! It has been a pleasure seeing this whole process evolve into what it is today!!! CONGRATS on your new box and your new CF family! I am honored to know you and to call you my friends!

Comment #35 - Posted by: Lisa Lugo at April 22, 2008 11:04 PM

Rest Day Compare to 080419

Comment #36 - Posted by: Colin Menniss at April 22, 2008 11:16 PM

Best video I've seen since starting crossfit 8 months ago. Very inspiring. Ending couldn't have been more appropriate!

Makes us want to open our own CF gym.

Goosebumps!

Comment #37 - Posted by: Ricky C. 27/5'10"/185 at April 22, 2008 11:25 PM

Raze,

Great poem. I watch the vids a dream some day of taking a cert class or meeting Coach G, or Greg Amundsen.

I go to school in Fairbanks Alaska and man do my partner and I get some funny looks, We just about got chased out of the gym today for dropping the barbell on an OH squat, great stuff.

The man alone in the arena, sweat, dust, and blood. The beating heart of the crossfit revolution.

Victory is ours.

Comment #38 - Posted by: Lochaby at April 23, 2008 12:12 AM

Great video ! Love the music as well. IMHO it's not Hans Zimmer's from Batman Begins, very similar but not the same.

Comment #39 - Posted by: Petr R. at April 23, 2008 12:16 AM

Thought provoking video (the other one: 'big fat lies') but he does nutritional science a disservice, these (and other) hypotheses are still ones being by pursued and are popular among nutritional scientists today.

Comment #40 - Posted by: Drew P at April 23, 2008 1:00 AM

Beautiful... Just plain beautiful.

Greetings from Sweden!

/Eric

Comment #41 - Posted by: Eric at April 23, 2008 2:02 AM

Truck is sick... looks like it has a duramax in it too :-)

Comment #42 - Posted by: Mike at April 23, 2008 2:19 AM

The best video of a box opening EVER!

This is so exciting to watch the evolution of the box, from carrying the mats, to equipment being unloaded, to getting the car wrapped.

Congratulations guys....really well done!

Comment #43 - Posted by: Matt Hunt at April 23, 2008 2:21 AM

To Keith at comment #11.....
No you're not!

Comment #44 - Posted by: MichaelW at April 23, 2008 2:35 AM

#14 Lighten up...go get a massage or something.

Comment #45 - Posted by: Christin Street at April 23, 2008 2:57 AM

I've just checked out the site at work, but unfortunately I can't check out the video that everyone is raving about because the powers that be think we are all watching porn. I'm now counting down every minute until I can get home to watch it. I'm also counting down everyday until my Level 1 cert in Sep. With all the positive energy created by the CrossFit Community I'm sure we could power a small city. How great is CrossFit? Even my wife is addicted. Great poem by the way.

Comment #46 - Posted by: Bob T-G at April 23, 2008 3:22 AM

my massuse told me to take the day off, thank goodness its a rest day

Comment #47 - Posted by: jon at April 23, 2008 3:22 AM

excellent vids, inspiring for opening a crossfit facility here in Scotland,and the other one makes the nutrition advice given by crossfit/zone etc more validation. since cutting out sugar have noticed the levelling out effect that Nicole talks about in the teeter totter vid.still not got round to weighing portions yet ,but looks like the way to go!!!still can't work out the blocks?

Comment #48 - Posted by: Pedro Barrera,Scotland at April 23, 2008 3:35 AM

raze

the aggie poet. who would have known. gig em!

#33 sam

i would say it's from lock out to chin over the bar any way you can. personally the no kip takes care of itself when i get up to a heavy weight. kinda hard to get a swing going in order to kip so it becomes a dead hang anyway. but if you can kip a heavy pull up then do it.

freddy

i don't know why you use jolie as your example. remember that time you broke your fake nail off in the middle of that workout? you're so right. nothing wrong with being pretty AND tough.:)

Comment #49 - Posted by: ken c at April 23, 2008 4:08 AM

Drew P (#41),
what disservice is this doing to nutritional science? I will submit that there are disservices being done in the name of nutritional health, but they are not being done by the "limit your carb" crowd.

Mainstream nutritional experts are so scared of dietary fat and so convinced that it has everything to do with heart disease that it has been totally unwilling for the last 30 years to do anything but ignore any research that gives an alternate hypothesis (even when that hypothesis is the only logical one). What I find amusing is that in their findings they will attack the "carb restricted" camp, push the low fat diets as being healthy...then in the same document state that there is compelling evidence in favor of diets high in fat and protein as well as state that positive results in caloric restriction/low fat diets are negligible.

I'd love to write more, but I have to go to work!

J

ps Robb, Pat and Jolie...thanks

Comment #50 - Posted by: JuanMurphy at April 23, 2008 4:16 AM

# 33 Love the poem!!!

I am a lone crossfitter! I workout and work at Bally Total Fitness here in Upstate NY and not only do members stare - coworkers stare, ask questions, make fun, etc. I find it..not discouraging but motivating. Although I would love to experience a CrossFit gym - I eat up the fact that I'm the ONLY girl in the free weight room!! CrossFit has just instilled that Get it done or die thought into my brain.

Comment #51 - Posted by: Nina - Roch, NY F/24/5'3/117 at April 23, 2008 4:43 AM

That video was great until I was eating breakfast and saw the broken fingernail - get rid of those things!

Comment #52 - Posted by: Angry G at April 23, 2008 4:58 AM

Great looking gym. I'm sure you'll have a lot of success with it!

Comment #53 - Posted by: Bob in NoVA at April 23, 2008 5:11 AM

It's funny, Nina...

I was you!

Working at Bally's in Philly, Crossfitting, Literally the ONLY female in the weight room unless another woman got dragged there by a pleading boyfriend.

Going it alone is definitely a bit renegade and surely hardcore but if you haven't done Crossfit with others at all...I'd definitely recommend it at some point...IMHO it brings an entirely different meaning to the word "intensity".

Carpe Ferrum.

Comment #54 - Posted by: Erin Davidson at April 23, 2008 5:13 AM

I am going to give my Prius that paint job.... That video was awesome

Comment #55 - Posted by: Rob Z. at April 23, 2008 5:14 AM

Man what a sweet video, it fired me up, I think I am going to have to skip this rest day!

BK

Comment #56 - Posted by: Brad at April 23, 2008 5:17 AM

Man what a sweet video, it fired me up, I think I am going to have to skip this rest day!

BK

Comment #57 - Posted by: Brad at April 23, 2008 5:18 AM

Man what a sweet video, it fired me up, I think I am going to have to skip this rest day!

BK

Comment #58 - Posted by: Brad at April 23, 2008 5:18 AM

That's a sweet truck! Seeing that massive gas guzzler is a good pick me up after all the earth day hoopla. Say how many carbon credits does that run ya?

Comment #59 - Posted by: Ryan at April 23, 2008 5:45 AM

Can I just say major, MAJOR props to whoever put that video together.

So, who wants to come to Greenville and open a Crossfit Affiliate with me?

Comment #60 - Posted by: Jim G-ville at April 23, 2008 5:56 AM

I don't know what got into me. I opted out of the rest day.

Spartan 300
25x Pull up
50x Deadlift @ 135
50x Push up
50x 24" box jump
50x Floorwipers @ 135
50x Single arm clean and press @36# (used 35# plate; 25 on each arm)
25x Pull up

Completed in 29:07

That's a crappy time but it's my PR. I'm gonna go throw up now.

Comment #61 - Posted by: Hood at April 23, 2008 6:01 AM

Had all four of my impacted wisdom teeth extracted yesterday so missed yesterday's workout.

Did a few sets of weighted pullups.
80, 90, 100, 110, 115, 117.5, 117.5.

Comment #62 - Posted by: Steve from Steve's Club at April 23, 2008 6:04 AM

Brad did you like the video?? lol

It was a GREAT vid.. makes me wanna open up my own CF centre..

Are there any more new gym opening vid on the CF site?

Comment #63 - Posted by: chris at April 23, 2008 6:10 AM

Jim G-ville, I am from Clemson! Good to know someone else in the upstate is a crossfitter!

Comment #64 - Posted by: Jay_South Dakota at April 23, 2008 6:22 AM

Loved the blisters and broken nail in the video. Awesome.

Comment #65 - Posted by: Chris and Julie Jordan at April 23, 2008 6:30 AM

When i grow up and stop being a gunfighter , I want to build a gym like that .Well done

Comment #66 - Posted by: Rico at April 23, 2008 6:30 AM

36M/5'11/200

Resting as rx'd

Tough day!

Comment #67 - Posted by: David S. at April 23, 2008 6:32 AM

Pure motivation!!
I just started crossfit exercises two weeks ago an I am addicted. You guys have set another goal for me. Kick ass!
thank you- Brian Davis,NYC

Comment #68 - Posted by: brian davis at April 23, 2008 6:38 AM

screw a rest day. i don't know if can just do nothing after watching that.

Comment #69 - Posted by: cctcone at April 23, 2008 6:44 AM

screw a rest day. i don't know if can just do nothing after watching that.

Comment #70 - Posted by: cctcone at April 23, 2008 6:45 AM

it supposed to be my rest day but damn that video forced me to exercise.

Comment #71 - Posted by: hang at April 23, 2008 7:03 AM

Awesome video, great looking gym.

CF Colgate had a similar unveiling yesterday. First "official" workout.

Elizabeth - power cleans, i know.
J - 5:19
E - 4:31
A - 5:04
G - 6:10
w/95lbs
Z - 10:30

fun stuff.

Comment #72 - Posted by: Goods 22/M/185 at April 23, 2008 7:08 AM

That video makes me wanna not rest today too!

Comment #73 - Posted by: MikeyP at April 23, 2008 7:14 AM

AWESOME VIDEO!!
Its a great gym and the people there are great too!!

Comment #74 - Posted by: Danielle at April 23, 2008 7:16 AM

I agree, awesome video. this is my first time to post. 36m/6'4/300. I can't do all of the wod but I do my best and sub where I can't do what's listed or don't have the equpment(good gyms are hard to find in rural Nebraska). I could use some advice on dropping weight without losing muscle.

Comment #75 - Posted by: glenn at April 23, 2008 7:22 AM

Jordan and Paula,

Your video shows the pride, dedication, and commitment you've brought to your business and our community. I would drive past a hundred gyms to train with you and your crew.

I'm going to have Thomas send you $500 this morning.

You and the other affiliates are going to revamp the entire fitness industry.

Wow!

Comment #76 - Posted by: Coach at April 23, 2008 7:25 AM

#28 (Freddy C.) -- I love it! I'm not a "nails gal" but I'm with ya! I used to make fun of nails (I admit it) but if women want the best of both worlds -- CrossFitting and nails, then let there be nails!

And that tear in the video must have hurt big time! Even if you can't find it in yourself to respect the nails, you have to respect the pain . . .

Comment #77 - Posted by: Lisbeth Darsh at April 23, 2008 7:36 AM

Wow, what an obnoxious truck.

Comment #78 - Posted by: captainampersand at April 23, 2008 7:48 AM

Both the vids were awesome - awesome music on the crossfit video. So, now I need to get Good Calories, Bad Calories and Starting Strength ... there goes my book budget!

Comment #79 - Posted by: Rob in Texas at April 23, 2008 7:53 AM

Nice truck too! Would look great in Texas!

Comment #80 - Posted by: Rob in Texas at April 23, 2008 7:56 AM

caught up with yesterday's WOD

Weighted Pull-ups 1-1-1-1-1-1-1
40
45
50
55
60
65
70

m/22/190lbs

I received weird looks because I did the workout in jeans (was in the area and decided to just stop in and do the pull-ups). I gave weird looks to the guys doing bicep curls.

Comment #81 - Posted by: Luke H. at April 23, 2008 8:20 AM

JuanMurphy-
THANK YOU! The food was awesome! You will be stunned by how many people you will end up helping with that nutrition info rattling in your head.
Awesome stuff. See you are the games for sure and come to Chico to visit when you get a chance.

Failsoft-
Re- CF & asthma. We have found the following VERY effective: have the client work right up to the edge of symptoms, then dial back intensity, work on breathing (forced air out, relaxed inhalation) and just tinker with this. For many folks the anxiety of an attack can make things worse. The CF training allows for multiple exposures/opportunities to down regulate the asthma symptoms. It works but it takes slow careful ramp-up. A paleo/zone diet can do wonders as well...

Keep us posted!

Comment #82 - Posted by: Robb Wolf at April 23, 2008 8:20 AM

Bwt:154.
did Murphy today.
time 1:23::13
my butt is sore

Comment #83 - Posted by: Buela at April 23, 2008 8:21 AM

wow, awesome video! that place looks awesome! good work on that box guys. definetly motivates me as a new crosfitter, and maybe one day have a box of my own.

forgot to post yesterdays workout.

never done weighted pull-ups before so didn't know where to start, and my roomate had class so couldn't use his belt.

so with DB hanging in btwn my ankles:

25# (way too easy), 35#(ok someone stealing my spot to do cable crssovers? still easy), 35#, 35#, 35#, 35#, 35# (last one was tough only 10-15secs rest in between each rep)

people were wating on me and the db's were far away so decided to just do all the rest with the 35# DB.

So to make up for that, because i should have done like 55#, 65#, i did:

5x5 135# bent oer rows, back felt pretty good after that.

Comment #84 - Posted by: Jayb44 at April 23, 2008 8:24 AM

Bwt:154
did Murphy
time 1:23::13

Comment #85 - Posted by: buela at April 23, 2008 8:25 AM

M/22/6'1"/185

Bored at work, so no resting today...

Row 500m
90 Pullups
Row 500m
80 Pushups
Row 500m
70 KB Swings @45#
Row 500m
60 KB Clean -> Thruster @45#
Row 500m
Squat 50
Row 500m
Squat 50
Row 500m
60 KB Clean to Thruster @45#
Row 500m
70 KB Swings #45#
Row 500m
80 Pushups
Row 500m
90 Pullups
Row 500m

1:14:42

All rows under 1:42, last one 1:38.2.

Comment #86 - Posted by: EricBrandom at April 23, 2008 8:39 AM

that music is from the recent "Transformers" movie

Comment #87 - Posted by: Rob in Texas at April 23, 2008 8:41 AM

Wow guys - major props. What an awesome gym and video - I would love to train at that gym.

Comment #88 - Posted by: awu at April 23, 2008 8:46 AM

Love the poem, printed it out and put in on our board. Thanks for that.
My .02 on being the only female, actually only person doing CF at small town gym:
I've been asked three times this week what I'm training for. Why am I lifting so much weight? Why am I going from station to station so fast without rest (michael/elizabeth/nancy)? What am I working towards?

I just say I'm working so hard so I can go faster and lift heavier tomorrow. They all gave me "atta girl's" and it was sweet.
I still get the WTF looks from the bohunk, arm curling, smith press squat guys who wear lifting shoes, BONUS!
Pr'd Michael today by over 3 minutes, yeah.

Comment #89 - Posted by: U'i at April 23, 2008 8:49 AM

I think a Prius or a Subaru would be way cooler.

One of the reasons I like Crossfit so much is that it's not about being pretty. Doing curls in the mirror is not part of the program, and I dig that. However, that stupid truck is all about "ego of prettiness", and my opinion of Crossfit has been reduced.

Comment #90 - Posted by: Cohi at April 23, 2008 8:56 AM

I agree with Freddy C. My GF loves CrossFit, and she still gets her nails, hair and who knows what else done...I'm glad.

I don't want to date a guy. I'm quite happy with my CrossFit woman ;)

Comment #91 - Posted by: James ATX at April 23, 2008 8:57 AM

#14 It was early. LOL

Comment #92 - Posted by: Keith M at April 23, 2008 8:59 AM

Now I have heard it all, a nice vehicle that advertises your business is not CF enough ... it's going to be a fun day!

Comment #93 - Posted by: Rob in Texas at April 23, 2008 9:04 AM

Did Michael today.

20:47

PR by more than a minute.

Comment #94 - Posted by: Fountain at April 23, 2008 9:17 AM

Michael #45 & Christin #46, Thanx :)

Comment #95 - Posted by: Keith M at April 23, 2008 9:19 AM

Jay
Where in SD are you from?

Comment #96 - Posted by: WAM at April 23, 2008 9:24 AM

Whoa. I really liked that video. It was great from start to finish. I loved the kids and the schnauzer!

Why the heck are people complaining about the nail?? It wasn't that gross. I thought it was pretty funny. That's what happens when you do CrossFit. I traded in my soft hands for some rough callouses and I've never been happier. What I don't get is why we think fake nails make people girly.

I think seeing people puke is more gross than a broken fake nail.

Comment #97 - Posted by: AllisonNYC_23/5'2/125 at April 23, 2008 9:28 AM

That WAS an awesome video. I wanna train there as well. Very inspirational!

Comment #98 - Posted by: Keith M at April 23, 2008 9:32 AM

Wow!! Awesome video! The place looks amazing! Jordan and Paula...I absolutely cannot wait to get home and come over and train!! I really appreciate you taking us 951ers in. See ya soon!!

Comment #99 - Posted by: Casey at April 23, 2008 9:41 AM

For some reason, the Taubes video won't load, but luckily, I've already seen it. Until his critics can falsify his assertion that "Carbohydrate, drives insulin, which drives fat accumulation," they don't have anything.

The calorie balance folks don't have a causal mechanism to explain how a calorie turns to fat. Taubes opens the black box and his carbohydrate hyporthesis makes better predictions. than the lipid hypothesis.

Also, I'd like to hear people's opinions on his assertion that people don't get fat because they eat a lot. They eat a lot because they get fat. He's asserting a sort of internal starvation for other cells, since because of insulin, the glucose gets shoved into fat cells, but other ones.

Fascinating.

Comment #100 - Posted by: LucienNicholson at April 23, 2008 9:41 AM

Ui #91:

Wow...pretty broad generalization and conclusion drawn from a pretty standard (and apparently locally effective) marketing strategy.

Yep, broad-based functional marketing across multiple domains, amenable to measurement and adaptation. Sounds pretty Crossfit to me...

Comment #101 - Posted by: bingo at April 23, 2008 9:54 AM

That is the BEST crossfit video; truely inspiring and I hope to visit someday.

mu-18# x 2.5
snatch 3x1x(65#,70#)
c&j 3x1x135#
bs 205#, 215#, 3x1x225#
pu+25# 4x5
backstroke 100m, contrast baths

Comment #102 - Posted by: James in Phoenix at April 23, 2008 9:54 AM

cool video, makes me want to open my own affiliate even more...how about some more certs on the east coast??

Comment #103 - Posted by: drew-ct m/24/185 at April 23, 2008 10:12 AM

So does Taubes hypothesis that excessive carbohydrates lead to fat buildup contradict the zone diet? Why do I ask?

During the video, Taubes points out a July 1965 New York Times article which said encouraging low carbohydrate diets is "equivalent to mass murder". The author of the article defends carbohydrate as being "45% of the average American's daily caloric intake."

So if 45% carbohydrates is considered a safe, conventional diet, and the zone prescribes 40% carbohydrates, then the zone only trims carbohydrate caloric intake by 5%.

Is a 5% reduction enough to break the cycle of fat creation Taubes describes? I haven't read the book, but does he propose an ideal Protein, Carb, Fat ratio?

In my own experience, I've found I lose fat on the Zone diet, but pretty slowly. I've lost fat much faster on lower carbohydrate diets. I'm thinking about changing my diet to 30% carb, 40% protein, 30% fat. What are other people doing?

Comment #104 - Posted by: Kevin at April 23, 2008 10:14 AM

Kevin,

You can lose weight (and fat) faster on many diets than you can on the Zone diet. The Zone is not simply a weight management plan. Weight management is a side effect of the true goal of the diet which is to maintain optimal hormonal balance and thereby improve metabolic function.

That is why most of the star-performers on crossfit are Zone dieters. They've chosen a diet that optimizes the human metabolism rather than one that simply makes you thin.

Comment #105 - Posted by: RifRafRob at April 23, 2008 10:20 AM

43/M/6'3"/200

Gwen @ 95, 95, 105

Definitely start at 105 next time.

Comment #106 - Posted by: Bob in NoVA at April 23, 2008 10:28 AM

Kevin,

Oops, I missed the point of your post in my response.

Remember that the article mentioned was written in 1965. These days, the FDA recommends more like 55% of total caloric intake from carbs and the average is probably far higher (I'm not going to bother looking it up). That is roughly 40% higher than the Zone recommends. Also consider the source of the carbohydrates, easily absorbed starches vs. the fiber rich vegetables recommended on the zone.

Comment #107 - Posted by: RifRafRob at April 23, 2008 10:28 AM

I can't believe nobody else has mentioned that dog! I really like how he is there whenerver anyone is on the floor. Whenever I stumble in after a killer WOD and lay down just inside the door, my dog loves it. Nothing better than a human salt lick I guess. So, my dog pretty much loves crossfit as much as me since I workout so hard everyday now.

Comment #108 - Posted by: thedannyboy_23_6'_195 at April 23, 2008 10:30 AM

#106:
Well put.

BTW This Crossift S**T works!!
Did the pullups today... major PR on set 7....100#'s @ 2 repetitions. Nice!
You know what else is cool. Seeing the beefed up muscle heads at the local globo doing their concentration curls and looking at you wondering how a "skinny" 168# dude can do what Crossfitters do.

Comment #109 - Posted by: MichaelW at April 23, 2008 10:33 AM

#105 Kevin
Taubes biggest rant isn't against carbs per say as processed carbs. Sugar, White bread, white rice & potatoes. I forget the specifics (I read the book really quickly and it is dense material) but he talks about the percentages of carbs in fruit and vegetables by percentage. Potatoes were like 60% and bad; romaine lettuce is 5% and good.
He doesn't propose an ideal ratio. He goes through all the research & points out its flaws and basically says we need more research but in a different direction because the low fat hypothesis doesn't have empirical evidence to support it.

Comment #110 - Posted by: jakers at April 23, 2008 10:33 AM

Love the Crossfit by Overload video. Had to take off yesterday because of work, so will use it to push myself today.

On the Gary Taubes thing. He's not a nutritionist but a science journalist and so has the benefit of taking the whole historical deal into perspective, whereas those of us like me involved in research in nutrition and exercise physiology, can sometimes get lost in the tunnel of discrete findings.

There's extremely good academic work being done now which shows that carbohydrate restriction [grains and sugars, not vegetables] really effectively manages insulin to prevent/manage/cure diabetes and metabolic syndrome. If carbs are sufficiently restricted, then it appears by mounting evidence, that saturated fat is not a problem. As insulin is the driver of carbs into triglycerides [followed by inflammation and all the problems that come with that], keeping insulin low via carb restriction makes fat a neutral nutrient that the body will just burn. When you combine this with timed carb intake and glycogen depleting exercise [like CrossFit], you can then use insulin to reload glycogen and not store fat. Plus you still get the anabolic effects of insulin in this way to build muscle.

There are others who have implemented carb cycling strategies in this regard, but the guy who's really on the cutting edge of this is Jeff Volek, Ph.D. out of UConn. He wrote a popular book this year called The TNT Diet, which doesn't, unfortunately and disappointingly, go very deeply into the science of his dietary recommendations. I actually think that Men's Health Magazine, which featured the book and his work for their summer weight loss program last year, did a better job of highlighting the science than he did in the diet book. He takes The Zone a few steps more deeply into carb restriction, and pairs it with glycogen depleting training for cutting fat and maintaining/increasing lean mass. He works a lot with William Kraemer, also now at UConn, who's simply a genius in muscle cell physiology. You can go to their profiles at UConn and see a list of some of their papers. You can often get full papers at the journal websites to read.

Comment #111 - Posted by: Bird in NJ at April 23, 2008 10:34 AM

#97 WAM

Rapid City

Comment #112 - Posted by: Jay_South Dakota at April 23, 2008 10:36 AM

^^^^^
Yeah what he said.

Comment #113 - Posted by: jakers at April 23, 2008 10:38 AM

WWCD-
Let's start with your log on-you may want to change it- It is my guess that "Coach" would not sit behind a computer and critize anyone who lays it all out in a workout regardless of their sex or preference to natural or acrylic nails.
I relish in the fact that I can completed the WODs, increase my strength and ability, build my muscles all while still maintaining my femininity! I sweat like you do. I love my flat stomach, sexy shoulders and yes, my fake nails! I'm a GIRL... I don't want to look like the guy next to me!!
Am I Crossfit material...Absolutely!
My next pic will be Freddie holding my hand, smiling proudly after my next manicure :)
Peace

Comment #114 - Posted by: Maria at April 23, 2008 10:42 AM

So basically he is saying that being fat is not a symptom of being lazy and over eating,

BUT being "lazy" is a symptom of being "fat"

eating the wrong food, high glycemic carbs, causes the insulin spike and inturn cause fat storage. Once the person starts to store fat they slow down, becoming fatter.

this reinforces the need for a Zone or Paleo diet.

Comment #115 - Posted by: Pick at April 23, 2008 10:54 AM

Bird #112,

Awesome info, thanks.

Comment #116 - Posted by: RifRafRob at April 23, 2008 10:57 AM

I am a little nervous about the next three days...

Comment #117 - Posted by: Wolverine_Wes at April 23, 2008 11:11 AM

Dear Gary,

Caught your video “Big Fat Lies” today, posted on CrossFit.com. Your message is huge, and more strongly stated than I’d seen previously.

But for you and the Center for Science Writing, being a science journalist is no reason to strip the necessities of science from the reporting. This does not mean that you need to be more technical. In fact, you probably got too technical for your audience with some of the diagrams and vocabulary of metabolism. Without the necessities of science, your message about a strong model, perhaps soon a theory, is reduced to conjectures, and you become vulnerable to being called, as you said, a crack-pot.

Here are some categorical comments and remedies.

1. Your observations on obesity in the Pima Indians and other poor groups, challenges the conventional wisdom, the net calories or energy balance model, but they are not evidence for your carb/insulin/fat model.

2. Show how the Pima Indian diet shifted from low to high carbs coincident with the outbreak of obesity, and you’ll have observations that do support your model. If your model is to be a hypothesis, it needs to fit all the data. These ethnic groups should not have become obese for some other reason.

What was the US Government diet on the reservations? What were the dietary differences between men, women, and children? What is happening at puberty?

3. You show the record of Body Mass Index for Americans taking off in the early 80s. For the same reason as given for the ethnic groups, you need to show data for a coincident change in diet to high carbs. Either that or show that the data, like climate data, have been fudged.

4. You use the unequal weight distribution in pathological cases and in males vs. females to show that the energy balance model can’t be true because it is general, that is, not specific to body parts. Wouldn’t the same logic challenge your carb/insulan/fat model?

5. You put a lot of emphasis on the energy conservation equation, DelE = Ein – Eout, only to misuse it. This use of delta is such a common formulation that you should stick with the conventional meaning. Also the conventional usage will help you advance your model to a hypothesis.

The equation is a definition of DelE, not a diet model. What you want to say is DelFat = DelE, standing for DelFat = Ein – Eout. That is a model.

6. The conventional energy balance model has two inherent assumptions, which you need to establish. One is that the human body is 100% efficient in converting or storing Ein. The other is that Eout is 100% in the form of work or heat. What you should show is that Eout equals Ework+heat + Epoop. As you know, animal stool has heat value. Normally, what the body does not convert to work and heat, or store as fat, it must poop.

7. For a model to be a hypothesis, it needs to make a least one testable, non-trivial prediction. When such a prediction is verified by experiment, your model will be classified as a theory.

Your model has a built-in prediction! It says that Epoop increases as the ratio of carbohydrates decreases. This is quite testable in a laboratory with a calorimeter, just as is done for food. By including that in your discussion, your model will be a hypothesis. Once the tests are done and shown to be confirming, you will have a bona fide theory.

8. You make absolute statements that the body secretes no insulin on a carb free diet. The calorimeter tests along with body weight measurements would quantify the matter.

9. What is the ratio of carbohydrates to triglycerides in the alphaglycerolphosphate (aGDH) process? Does the caloric ratio of 4 to 9 cal/gr hold after all? What are the effects of the glycemic index?

10. You calculate that 0.1% accuracy in caloric intake would be necessary to control body weight within 5 pounds in a decade. This is to imply the futility of calorie counting. Implicitly this model would be true if one only got on the scale after a decade. The number is 1% in a year, and 53% in a week. This is reminiscent of politicians who show the cost of an unwanted program by multiplying the annual costs by ten or 20 years. It’s worse in economics, but is unsound in any case. I suggest you drop this argument as weak and distracting.

Good luck on your mission, for everyone’s sake.

Comment #118 - Posted by: Jeff Glassman at April 23, 2008 11:20 AM

i think that broken nail was pretty bad-ass. not as bad-ass as the little girl cleaning the dumbbells though, i need to get one of those.

Comment #119 - Posted by: sleeveless in seattle at April 23, 2008 11:29 AM

Yeah I liked the broken fingernail too. Who cares if their fake or real...they look pretty. I miss mine.

made up sh. press today
45
65
75
85
95-fail
85-2 failed @3rd rep

It would help to get a couple of 2&1/2 lb plates!

Comment #120 - Posted by: gina johnson f/45/133 at April 23, 2008 11:37 AM

Paula and Jordan,
Congrats on making the main page! Your gym is awesome!!! I'm so jealous! You guys have obviously put your heart and soul into this and I'm sure that comes through to all of your clients! I can't wait to come visit in August when I'm out that way for the Oly Cert. By the way, you're kids are adorable!
Leigh Ann from Ames, IA

Comment #121 - Posted by: LAC-Ames 33/f/5'0"/115 at April 23, 2008 11:50 AM

28/m/6'/216

Made up the pull-up workout today:
empty db handle - 5 - 10 - 15 - 15 - 20 (near miss) - 20 (near miss)

Comment #122 - Posted by: Sam at April 23, 2008 11:55 AM

m/32/164
cfwu x3
35
40
45
50 (PR!)
55
60
65 (I know this was supposed to be the last one but I didn't expect to do it. So I kept going)
70
75

Comment #123 - Posted by: John at April 23, 2008 11:55 AM

Jordan and Paula--

Wow! Don't know what to say except congrats congrats congrats! I am so proud to be a part of CFO! The video gives me chills every time I watch it!

Comment #124 - Posted by: Jenn at April 23, 2008 12:39 PM

warmup run 5X1 min. fast, 1 min. walk.

Pullups max weight 7X1rep: 35-45-55(fail)-50-50-50-55 (fail). Never done these before.

Then did "lightweight Linda," all exercises at 135, subbed front squat for cleans and took time to rest, to make it less intense.

Comment #125 - Posted by: Kamper 43/M/74"/205 at April 23, 2008 12:47 PM

#118 My sentiments exactly. Bet it'll be something like Filthy 50 and Murph the next day. Jeez, I hope I didn't jinx things.

Comment #126 - Posted by: Christin at April 23, 2008 12:49 PM

#118 – Jeff Glassman

Interesting post. I don’t have the scientific background to understand all of your points, but I think get the gist of most. I do have a few comments.

In your item #5, you suggest DelFat = Ein – Eout as a diet model. Shouldn’t “DelFat” really be “DelFat + DelMuscle” or, maybe more accurately, “DelTissue” or “DelBodyMass?” I don’t think the conventional energy model suggests that fat is the only component of changes in body mass.

In your item #10, you say “Implicitly this model would be true if one only got on the scale after a decade”and then you mention 1% and 53% as the appropriate numbers for a year and for a week. But he is not talking about a year or a week. As you said, he calculated that 0.1% accuracy in caloric intake would be necessary to control body weight within 5 pounds in a decade, not in a year or a week. One could get on the scale 5 times a day, but the only number of interest that is relevant to Taubes’ claim is the number on the scale after 10 years. I don’t think his argument is weak or distracting at all.

Lastly, I admit that, while I saw this video a couple of months ago, I did not watch it again today, and what follows is based on reading his book, which I just finished. You make a couple of points (#1 and #3) that suggest that Taubes is using some observations that challenge the conventional wisdom but do not support his own “model.” You also suggest several things he should do to advance his model. Fair enough, I suppose, if the guy was a scientist. But he is an author. My own take on his book is that he had three goals. First and foremost was to challenge the conventional wisdom and criticize the science, or lack of it, that has led to that CW. Second was to present a large amount of evidence that increases in consumption of carbohydrates, and especially refined carbohydrates, are largely responsible for increases not only in obesity, but in many of what he calls “diseases of civilization” (diabetes, heart disease, and several others) in populations where that increase in carbs has occurred. Third was to present what he calls The Carbohydrate Hypothesis (I think this would be what you are referring to as his “model”) as something that should be studied by scientists, not by someone like him. You appear to expect him to do the work to make his model a theory (“good luck on your mission”). I guess I’m just saying that I think the guy has already gone above and beyond. Time for others to do the heavy lifting.

Thanks for the post!

Comment #127 - Posted by: Lewis Dunn at April 23, 2008 12:53 PM

25/m/175

"Cindy"
5 pull-ups, 10 push-ups, 15 squats
Max rounds in 20 minutes

Completed 22 full rounds

Comment #128 - Posted by: Brunzi at April 23, 2008 1:06 PM

"Show up, shut up, and lace 'em up!" Words of wisdom courtesy of Dale Saran, Crossfit Veritas, now open in the Biggest Little State in the Union.

http:\\crossfitveritas.blogspot.com

Woot!

Comment #129 - Posted by: bingo at April 23, 2008 1:29 PM

Proper gym etiquette; you decide.

I know this is a much different subject than what coach posted, but an issue arose today in our work establishment's gym where I coach 6 to 10 people daily for CrossFit workouts.

It is posted that during a certain time that the class will have a designated area in the gym to do their work, and if needed, will use other parts of the gym without impeding on people who workout outside of our class. Basically, we're not taking over the gym or kicking anyone off of treadmills or pull-up stations; we share politely, and we have a designated time and space to workout.

Today an older office worker, I'll assume someone who is not used to being told NO, barged directly into the middle of my class and started looking for weights, going directly to someone where the weights were at his feet while doing air squats and started fingering them, as if he were going to take them. My trainees are disciplined and it’s hard to break their concentration, plus I am there to field whatever. I told the person the weights were being used, and he replied that they were the only 20's in the gym, to which I replied again that they are still being used.

This guy grufly said, "Well, I wasn't going to take them," to which I replied, "That's good because they're still being used," repeating the same basic phrase for the third time, to which it STILL didn't sink in.

He then picked them up and did a few of some really dumb looking tricep wanna-be extensions over his head with the dumbbells, and didn't do whatever it was very well at all, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF MY CLASS.

I looked at him, mumbled "m-fer", gave him the stink-eye, and he got the hint and left to the other side of the gym to repeat the dumb movement with a lighter set of weights. If this had not taken place at work, I would have clocked his pastey rat claw a..., k, cool it Jim

But the guy was a total jerk to one of my trainees, disrespecting him in front of his peers and attempting to take the weights regardless of what he later demonstrated. Basically, he was caught trying to bully one of my class members out of the weights used for their WOD. Fortunately I didn’t blow my top and kept on training my class, correcting form, plus ensuring a first-timer was doing all right.

Mind you, this is at my place of work where I teach this class for free in a designated spot where we actively stay out of other gym users’ way, albeit putting them to shame while they read magazines while walking on the treadmill when it’s 75 and perfectly sunny outside...

Can anyone identify with me, or am I just over reacting?

Comment #130 - Posted by: James Humphrey, Jr. at April 23, 2008 1:32 PM

M/47/185/6'1"

CFWU x 3 -PU

Weighted Pullups
25-35-45-55-60-65-70

Where can I get some "Pukie" t-shirts?

Comment #131 - Posted by: mark at April 23, 2008 2:01 PM

Did the Ultra cycling workout from crossfit endurance:

20 miles at 90% of TT pace.

Averaged 16.7 mph. Good workout. Going for a swim later.

Git-R-Dun

Comment #132 - Posted by: vigilantesniper at April 23, 2008 2:20 PM

I experienced my first hand rips yesterday, and am wondering if I should stop training until these heal or if it is o.k. to tape them and continue working out on a regular basis.

I have been following the advice from the April Journal, and am trying to take care of these the best that I can.

Thanks for all you do!!!

Comment #133 - Posted by: new_rips at April 23, 2008 2:28 PM

Saw some fellow Crossfitters at the Y in Shep KY today. If you are out there: To the guy who helped me when I gashed my leg open...THANKS for your help and concern. You were right..got 13 stitches. All is well!

Comment #134 - Posted by: Nicki at April 23, 2008 2:30 PM

James #131

Yes on both counts. The guy was way out of bounds on several fronts and you are over reacting. Now you should stop fuming about it and revel in the little victories. You handled things well. The guy learned a lesson... not as harshly as you may have liked but learned all the same. Your students demonstrated good discipline. There are probably a few more victories buried in there but 3's plenty to revel in.

Then again, if I knew jack about gym etiquette I wouldn't have dumped all of that ca$h into my home gym :)

Comment #135 - Posted by: RifRafRob at April 23, 2008 2:33 PM

sigh... i was looking forward to 2 more days without rest... oh well

Comment #136 - Posted by: Frank Wang at April 23, 2008 2:37 PM

Outstanding video. Fantastic Box. And great job on the graphics! Jennifer and I wish you all the best.

Comment #137 - Posted by: Mike Pietragallo at April 23, 2008 2:47 PM

I went ahead and copied most of the slides from the Gary Taubes video. It provides a good summary and some of my own commentary.

http://mariettachiropractic.blogspot.com/

"Rest On Gang"

Comment #138 - Posted by: Joseph D. at April 23, 2008 3:17 PM

Lewis Dunn, #128,

DelFat = Ein – Eout would be A diet model, not THE diet model. Taubes did talk about obesity as increased body fat and not increased lean body moss. By DelFat I meant added body fat.

Are you familiar with navigation by dead reckoning? Suppose you were to fly to Washington, DC starting at a point 3,000 miles to the west under visual flight rules. Then set out on a heading of 090º. If you can measure that heading within about 0.1º (0.095º) then you’ll wind up within 5 miles of your destination. If that's too tough, then instead lay out a dozen landmarks before Washington, DC, and adjust your track to stay within 5 miles of every one. Now you only need to measure your heading within 1º (1.15º).

If you want to come within 5 pounds after a decade of calorie counting, then get on the scale every week. Taubes didn’t talk about getting on the scale at all! He just dead reckoned for 10 years. He needed way points, not fantastic accuracy.

We don’t want to criticize Taubes for not being a scientist. That’s ad hominem, an argument for the wrong and the arrogant. At the same time since he is reporting on science, we shouldn’t excuse problems in his presentation. If he’s going to report on science, he should capture the essence of science and not just skate over the surface. He would do a far greater public service teaching science literacy than informing the publilc about one application, obesity.

I don’t expect Taubes to do the science. He should have the science literacy to discover from the scientists how far they have progressed toward qualifying their models. Only then should he report his findings to the public.

I sincerely wish Taubes success. If Barry Sears is right, perhaps the great brunt of autoimmune diseases share a common origin with Type 1 diabetes. Let's help Taubes get all the wheels of his train on the tracks.

Comment #139 - Posted by: Jeff Glassman at April 23, 2008 3:47 PM

Great video! Is it still called video or am I showing my age? The way that you did it reminds me of some of the videos on Grouchymedia.com. Very inspirational! Makes me want to start my own Crossfit gym. Good luck!

Comment #140 - Posted by: John B at April 23, 2008 3:56 PM

Great link to the nutrition vid, thanks !

As a carb,HFCS (High Fructose Corn Syrup) is probably the most dangerous addition to our diet ever.

The diabetes epidemic tracks along with its introduction into mass produced foods, beginning with soft drinks in the mid 1980's. Now, try buying anything processed without it.

Comment #141 - Posted by: Greg M/48/70/225/3/17/08 at April 23, 2008 4:30 PM

I appreciate Taubes bringing this to the forefront; the glucose/insulin/triglyceride/adipose tissue concept is worth the time to view the video.

Comment #142 - Posted by: Rob in Texas at April 23, 2008 4:30 PM

What an awesome video! So inspirational... This will definitely get me moving.

Comment #143 - Posted by: mjacook at April 23, 2008 4:39 PM

30/M/140
Took the last two days off - working on shin splints and shoulder tendonitis, so...

5x
30 GHD situps
30 back ext.

15:00

Comment #144 - Posted by: Shane at April 23, 2008 5:08 PM

#25

I am a female crossfitter who has asthma - I have had exercise induced asthma since I was about 7. Does your girlfriend take an inhaler like Ventolin? I would recommend taking 1 puff 30 min before and 1 puff 15 min before- if she does nto take a "rescue" inhaler like this she should speak with her MD about it. I used to use my inhaler before every practice and race (i was a swimmer) when i was younger but through years of trying to decrease my use of it I now =only use it before races or if the pollen or vog is bad - sometimes when I race without it I do tend to wheeze adn I know it sounds to others like I am dying but I know that I feel okay. Hae your girlfriend push herself adn keep her rescue inhaler handy. I find that when I cant breathe sitting down and breathing into my hands for a couple of minutes helps me get my breathing under control. Have her keep her rescue inhaler close by in case she needs a puff. Feeligng like you can't breathe is scary - she just needs to know it is possible and the more in shape she gets she will continue to expand her lung capacity and will be able to tolerate more. Hope this helps a bit

Comment #145 - Posted by: Beth at April 23, 2008 5:12 PM

#113 Jay

Awesome. I'm from Belle Fourche. Its nice to see people from the area doing CF

Comment #146 - Posted by: WAM at April 23, 2008 5:36 PM

Question:

Alright so I have been doing crossfit for over a year now, with the occasional week or two off (I apologize). I go for about 1 1/2 mile run every other day and eat decently healthy. The past few weeks crossfit has been religious, every day. And I have also been on the ultimate frisbee team at my high school(im a senior, 18 years old) so its safe to say I run every day for the past 2-3 months. However I still have this, I dont wanna call it a gut, but excess fat on the lower stomach and love handle section. I need to drop all weight I can for my upcoming boxing match and I can't seem to lose this. I know its impossible to target weight loss at a specific portion of the body, however running just doesn't seem to do it.

Now I also understand the scrutiny I will receive if my post was "crossfit isn't making me look good!" but the truth is the weight needs to be dropped. I will not lie and say it doesn't bother me when I look in the mirror though- because its always a plus to have a sculpted body! Any help is just that! Thank you crossfit!

-Marty

Comment #147 - Posted by: Marty at April 23, 2008 6:00 PM


102 pushups in 80 seconds
Various weight exercises

Comment #148 - Posted by: Weimin at April 23, 2008 6:09 PM

After all that talk, I had to check out the video and see what all the excitement was about- awesome facility! Looks spacious and like there's lots of good equipment to work out with! The nail picture though was not as dramatic as I imagined it would be. I bet that hurt that a son of gun!

Comment #149 - Posted by: Leslie Ap at April 23, 2008 6:09 PM

Now I see my first post never showed up- Failsoft and Beth, I have asthma, too. It's not horrible, but it still slows me down sometime, and that is very frustrating. I cannot condition myself out of it, and can't make it go away. It's like a heavy bag that I've got to keep carrying around with me. Sometimes it slows me down, and very rarely, it stops me.
You can definitely enjoy and benefit from CrossFit when you have asthma. Failsoft, I hope your girlfriend will try it out!

Comment #150 - Posted by: Leslie Ap at April 23, 2008 6:14 PM

I will watch more of the Taubes video when I get back from CA.

I will also check out the book from the library.

The video is incredible. I like the gym.

If there were not so many around here, I would consider it (building my own).

In the mean time, I am spreading the Crossfit virus at work. People are enjoying it (if they do not have other health issues).

Take care. I will see you guys in about a little over a week. LA Crossfit sites, I am coming for you!

Comment #151 - Posted by: Stuart at April 23, 2008 6:15 PM

Jeff Glassman - #40

Your navigation example completely misses the point (or maybe I should say it's way off course?). Saying that “Now you only need to measure your heading within 1º” ignores the corrections you need to make at each waypoint (you will be off by as much as 5 miles and obviously better do something about that). Yes, you can weigh yourself weekly to stay within 5 pounds of your target, but if you are off target you will need to then immediately adjust your calorie count to get back on track to your target weight. At the final destination (which, by the way, Taubes stated as two decades, not one), your total calorie count accuracy over the period, taking into account your weekly corrections, will indeed need to be as accurate as Taubes claims. And you do understand, don’t you, that Taubes is using this example as a refutation of the conventional wisdom, not as a suggestion for how to maintain weight?

“We don’t want to criticize Taubes for not being a scientist. That’s ad hominem, an argument for the wrong and the arrogant.” Speaking of arrogant, what an incredible misinterpretation of my post. Trust me, I'm the last person who would never criticize someone for not being a scientist.

You seem to be very interested in this subject but clearly haven't read Taubes' book. You really should.

Comment #152 - Posted by: Lewis Dunn at April 23, 2008 6:21 PM

I did the hang squat cleans and pushups like the video 2 weeks back as my WOD.

5 rounds of 10 hang squat cleans #22.5 dbs and regular 10 pushups.

Round 1 - 39.5s
Round 2 - 1:08.11
Round 3 - 2:16.6
Round 4 - 3:10.4
Round 5 - 3:05.4

Total Time - 10:20.01

Comment #153 - Posted by: Tarun Suri/</20/5'10/139lbs at April 23, 2008 6:29 PM

great video and sound. contemplating certing and opening my own gym has been put on fire with that motivating vid.

some of the comments about the fat/carb/insulin model are getting nitpicky. this is a huge area of interest in human and animal nutrition right now. as for the pima indians. i worked with a group of them and zunis on wildfires for 7 summers. i was in very good shape then--likely nothing like i am now with crossfit, but i was twenty then, 43 now. these guys, although packing a ton of fat, could run forever, i mean run forever. we trained 1 hour a day, and often after work as well, and they could flat out distance run. they could also punch out line on a fire very well too. fast bursts of speed, stamina on strenuous work not so much. point is all this nitpicking about all the insulin business is that maybe, just maybe there are different body response systems, gentetics that make these guys ok with insulin issues and excess fat. because regardless of whether they had insulin resistance issues or not, they had absolutely no problem carrying their wt and more over very long-distances. joint wear and tear over time will take its toll, and maybe they could have been even more endurance 'savvy' had they had better fat and insulin numbers, but i guarantee with my genetics i couldn't run 2 miles packing the fat they seemed to have no problem dealing with for over 10 miles.

so the studies are great, and may help some, but generalities have to be understood with any study like this.

Comment #154 - Posted by: mtvet at April 23, 2008 6:33 PM

I am new to this crossfit deal and didn't know where to begin so I created my own to start.

150 Squats to ball.
40 Vertical Jumps over 4ft. can.
300 Sit Ups
25 Burpee-Pull Ups

One round for time, HAHAHA...rookie I know
15.48

Comment #155 - Posted by: Hurricane at April 23, 2008 6:39 PM

37/m/175/69"

AM- 5 mile run, hilly, 45 min.

PM- 50 T-Get Ups with 45#KB and Snatch in the Up
10 round buddy workout
10 Burpees
Heavy Bag while buddy does burpees

Comment #156 - Posted by: c_BULL at April 23, 2008 6:39 PM

AWESOME VID!!!!!


I have R E A L L Y got to get to one of these outfits- soon. Training with the hungry pack has GOT to be better than doing this alone, at the local YMCA, amidst dazed onlookers, and close-minded meatheads........

Comment #157 - Posted by: FunnyMoneyLoanShark at April 23, 2008 6:40 PM

outstanding video with a great ending...
The truck is killer advertising too - lotta bang for the buck.

Comment #158 - Posted by: jason at April 23, 2008 6:41 PM

Great Box!

Interesting lecture. A few controversial statements, but I am sure they were intended to be (let us not forget this guy sells stories for a living).

I concur with #142 Greg, keep in mind the time of mass fast food franchising and the tech revolution in the United States along with HFCS introduction on a huge scale. Combine that with a lack of mandated physical activity in public schools, the fact that processed food is by far the normal, break down of the traditional family, shall I go on?

Fortunate are those that pay attention to their environment (i.e. everything external to the person) and have the belief to make decisions to effect said environment for the positive. What I believe to be a principle of CF - cut the crap and make it happen. Same thing, right?

Comment #159 - Posted by: Hatch at April 23, 2008 6:48 PM

no rest
5 rounds for time of
5 x Bear complex: 75 lbs squat cleans to thrusters to backsquats
10 pullups

8;40

Comment #160 - Posted by: arivgt at April 23, 2008 6:55 PM

Good luck with the place, we are pulling for you

JJG

Comment #161 - Posted by: JJG at April 23, 2008 7:24 PM

row 5k on c2
19.33

Comment #162 - Posted by: Kyle A. at April 23, 2008 7:27 PM

Elizabeth

21-15-9
Cleans (PC) 95#
Ring Dips

19:59

Last time 33:29

Comment #163 - Posted by: laurar at April 23, 2008 7:38 PM

Great information in the Taubes Video. If all the rest days provided similar quality info, I bet you could earn college credit for being in crossfit!

Comment #164 - Posted by: Ken_Davis at April 23, 2008 7:43 PM

Actually, 19:57....

2 seconds is 2 seconds!

Comment #165 - Posted by: laurar at April 23, 2008 7:51 PM

2 pr's today.

5k

#1 24:26 (pr by 6 seconds)
#2 pose the whole way!

Comment #166 - Posted by: JeffChalfant 28/172/5'10'' at April 23, 2008 8:36 PM

1st time back in a month. Took some time off for school, kids, and to let some injuries heal (shoulder and elbow are feeling great).

Michael today. 21:38. All supermans instead of back ext.

That truck is dumb. Worst picture ever posted for a WOD. How about a commuter bike pimped with CrossFit logos?

Comment #167 - Posted by: krolson 28m/6'2"/185 at April 23, 2008 8:40 PM

#148 Marty
How much do you weigh now? What weight class to you plan on fighting in?
When is the show?

Comment #168 - Posted by: jakers at April 23, 2008 9:55 PM

32/M/179/6'00"

I'm on a 5/2 WOD cycle, so my "rest day" WOD was Fran! It wasn't my choice but I'm very happy to post a new pr on Fran - 5:11

Previous pr was 5:26. I'll be in the 4's in no time.

Dan
www.CrossFitStickers.com

Comment #169 - Posted by: Dan D. at April 24, 2008 2:23 AM

# 160, Roger. We sit down to a home cooked family dinner every evening & consider ourselves fortunate.
BTW, tepped on the scale today and...Dropped 10 Lbs to 214. Thanks CF !

Hooahh.

Comment #170 - Posted by: Greg M/48/70/225/3/17/08 at April 24, 2008 3:11 AM

#168 jakers:

I am currently around 175 and the fight is in 2 weeks. If I drop enough I can drop a weight class down from what would be 170 down to 165. My target is the extra weight around the area I described. I know I will have no trouble dropping the 5 in two weeks, however the 10 will be tough because I am still strength training for the next week and a half.

Also, I would like to drop that excess weight permanently too, not just for this fight. Like I said appearance isn't my #1 priority but I'd have a 3 foot long nose if I were to say it wasn't on my list. Thanks alot- Also feel free to e-mail me.

Comment #171 - Posted by: marty at April 24, 2008 5:48 AM

Steve
M/172/46

24:30 15 seconds faster than previous.

Comment #172 - Posted by: steve at April 24, 2008 7:12 AM

Lewis Dunn, #153

Taubes’ chart number 19 refers to “12 tons of food over two decades” and “Maintaining weight to within five pounds over two decades requires an accuracy of .1 percent”. And “by the way”, when Taubes spoke to the chart, he said “that’s 12 tons of food, that should be one decade … ”.

But then he said “within five pounds over a couple of decades that requires an accuracy of .1% calorie count”. Reproducing his numbers was not terribly difficult, and it showed that his computation of 0.1% is based on one decade. His daily rate 2700 calories is not 12 tons of food in either one or two decades (unless he included fiber). That daily rate for a decade is 5,430 pounds (2.7 tons) of carbs and protein, or 3,949 pounds (2 tons) from a 40:30:30 diet. If one would gain no weight at 2700 cals/day, then under the conventional model he would gain 5 pounds from overeating in a decade by 5/5430 = 0.09% or 5/3949 = 0.13%, or 0.1% with rounding. This would confirm that Taubes used one decade in his accuracy calculation, and not two decades or 12 tons.

My point about the dead reckoning analogy is to show what Taubes did. Taubes attacked calorie counting by a silly example. A tenth of a percent accuracy is not required in dead reckoning or calorie counting if one checks his progress at way points instead of waiting until its too late.

No one, and certainly not I, even hinted that your post was arrogant. I wrote that we had two ways to handle Taubes position. We could dismiss it because Taubes was not a scientist, but that would be arrogant I claimed. Neither of us did that. On the other hand, I suggest we demand that he write accurately about science. For mtvet #155, I wouldn’t call accurate science reporting “nitpicking”. Taubes didn’t pass the test in his presentation, so I am disinclined to tackle his book.

Greg #142,

You may be on to something major if your date of the early 80s is correct for the introduction of high fructose corn syrup. That just might account for the sudden increase in the rate of body mass index in Taubes’ chart. It could support his model, depending on how the numbers fit. E.g., what was the rate of introduction of HFCS? Did it replace other sweeteners or was it an addition to food-like products? What is its calorie content?

Comment #173 - Posted by: Jeff Glassman at April 24, 2008 7:30 AM

I believe the 80's date is related to the first Food Pyramid, where the dietary recommendations increased CHO intake to 65% of calories, up from the historical national trend of about 45% of total calories. You'll note that this intake back down into the 40 percents CHO is where Sears and other carb restriction authors put their recommendations.

I believe Taubes mentions this, maybe not in this speech, but possibly in a similar one he did at Berkeley, possibly in his book and/or in the NYTimes article. Other authors (maybe even Sears) have also used the introduction of the Food Pyramid in the 80's as the point at which the American diet started to go to hell in a bread basket. You can read Jeff Volek's take on this historical diet pre-Food Pyramid of =<45% CHO in an interview posted at T-Nation.

It is true, however, that the massive introduction of HFCS came as this same time, likely caused by the introduction of the first Food Pyramid, as Americans were encouraged to reduce their fat intake from protein, and therefore, increase intake of low/no fat carbohydrate foods. I worked in a hospital weight loss and eating disorder program at that time, and we would joke, "How much weight have you gained on the Entenman's No Fat Diet?" [not funny]. It was clear from the beginning that the Food Pyramid was pure folly.

Comment #174 - Posted by: Bird in NJ at April 24, 2008 8:07 AM

"Food Pyramid History

"'Be careful about reading health books. You may dies of a misprint.' Mark Twain

"The familiar, black triangle, found on the majority of boxes of foods at the supermarket, has been an expected sight to our generation. Many Americans live by this food pyramid, which outlines a guide to healthy eating. Did you know that the food pyramid was conceived in the 1960s due to an increase in Americans getting heart disease? The U.S. Department of Agriculture responded with the food guide pyramid and Dietary Guidelines for Americans (a pamphlet which is updated every five years). Let’s trace the history of this food pyramid.

"Early Beginnings

"Before vitamins and minerals were even discovered, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) published its first dietary recommendations to the nation in 1894. …

"The Food Pyramid

"A Pattern for Daily Food Choices, the USDA’s food guide, was being published annually since the 1980’s. However, people were still not aware that it existed. Beginning in 1988, the creation of a graphic to represent the food groups started. It needed to convey the three main ideas: variety, proportionality and moderation. The Food Guide Pyramid was finally released in 1992. Both the graphics and text conveyed variety and proportionality (by pictures of foods and the size of the food group).

"On every food in the grocery store is a nutritional label. That was put into effect in 1994 by the Nutrition Labeling and Education Act. Now, Americans can follow the Food Guide Pyramid easily.

"But, Americans remain confused about healthy eating. A 1996 telephone done by the USDA found that over 40 percent of people agreed with the statement “There are so many recommendations about healthy ways to eat, it’s hard to know what to believe.”

"Because of the emergence of so many diets and programs, it will be challenging to Americans to know just what to believe. It seems as if the information we hear is changing every day."

http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/Fall02/Greene/history.htm

This makes the food pyramid and its recommendation rather poorly correlated with the early 80s and the reputed sharp increase in national BMI. The BMI data need to be put under a microscope.

Comment #175 - Posted by: Jeff Glassman at April 24, 2008 8:50 AM

You know, I get this repeated sense of "deja vu all over again"--as a famous Yogi put it--when discussing certain controversial topics with dogmatic "scientists". I get the sense that their guitars go to eleven, and somehow my paradigm and theirs won't be meeting up any time soon.

His quotes showing the blatant, obvious cognitive dissonance among top researchers was funny, even if also disturbing. Illuminating. Maybe that's the word.

Comment #176 - Posted by: Barry Cooper at April 24, 2008 1:15 PM

wut a cool vid. and sweet graphics on that truck!

last nite gave "Grindy" a try. told myself not for time, just to do; focus on form every rep, just complete it.

10 x 85# cleans (full squat)
5 x rounds of Cindy
10 x 85# cleans
5 x rounds of Cindy
10 x 85# cleans
time = 13:58
wow! suffering for sure. even without goin for time. great stuff.

Comment #177 - Posted by: cleverhandz at April 24, 2008 2:15 PM

As if seeing a pics of people shooting guns to associate crossfit with strength isn't bad enough, there's now a crossfit monster truck??? The crossfit movement had potential and has instead marketed itself with loads of war and gun-shooting pic's. Lots of good is done by people who exercise and sadly, that's rarely shown by the crossfit movement. Strength isn't measured by how much you can destroy but by how much you can create.

Comment #178 - Posted by: none at April 24, 2008 3:04 PM

#178: Then go create something. We're not stopping you. We're much too busy creating something here.

If you're out of ideas, please don't showcase that fact here. You've got the whole internet.

Comment #179 - Posted by: Barry Cooper at April 24, 2008 3:38 PM

I got my info on HFCS from a book called "Fat Land". To summarize, its introduction into the American diet was the result of several things:

1. U.S. Agricultural policy shifted in the 1970's, and advised farmers to plant "fencerow to fencerow, and they did.

2. Japanese scientists figured out how to make sugar out of corn. (HFCS). "Food scientists" (Food processor technicians) started experimenting with it, and found it made for long shelf lives, good mouth feel, and was easer to incorporate into processed foods than sugar.

3. Sometime in the mid 1980's, the major soft drink companies started using it instead of sugar because of the above, and because of the fact that it was cheaper than sugar. Note: we (The U.S) pays more than the rest of the world for sugar due to the "Sugar Lobby".

Apparently, an unfortunate side effect of this stuff is that your body doesnt know what to do with it (Burn or store), and it may cause insulin resistance...kinda wonder how it got past the FDA, but that is another story.

Another good read on sustainable agriculture is the book "The Omnivore's Dilemma". Dont read it unless your prepared to start eating organic (grass fed) beef. Here's a couple of links to some links to the organic movement:

http://www.eatwild.com/

Some light hearted yet informative vids:

http://www.storewars.org/noflash/

http://www.themeatrix.com/

Enjoy & bon appetit !


Comment #180 - Posted by: Greg M/48/70/225/3/17/08 at April 24, 2008 6:39 PM

Bingo - thank you for the props, my friend. I'm starting slowly, but I don't need to be an affiliate for the $$. My law practice is much more profitable per hour. I'm just trying to spread the good word of Coach G that he was kind enough to give to us. I want people who "get it" and "want it" - dilettantes are not my specialty. I want to be around like-minded people.

We'll see how it goes. The ultimate goal is down the road with a facility for BJJ, MMA, and CrossFit - my law practice will have an office upstairs so I can hear the sounds of bumpers hitting the floor and people grunting while I type and research.

On Taubes -
Lewis Dunn, you're taking Mr. Glassman's posts way too personally and I think you may be the one missing the point. Also, arguing with rocket scientists is bad form. I try to avoid it whenever possible.

Comment #181 - Posted by: Dale_Saran at April 25, 2008 3:31 PM

Steve

M/170/45

Good Warm up finally!
As Rx'd

225
235
245
255
265

Comment #182 - Posted by: steve at April 25, 2008 7:24 PM

Greg #181,

Yeah, that stuff does cause insulin resistance: HFCS, sugar, the white menace of any kind. But the FDA may not have been on to that at the time. Seems to me that there weren't many papers coming out on dietary causes of insulin resistance until maybe even the early 90's. The whole insulin issue was still largely just considered a problem of diabetics, and diabetes as a more or less solely inheritable disorder. Not like today where we know you can eat and sit your way to type II.

It was known in the mid-late 80's that even an acute bout of exercise could improve insulin resistance, but when I learned that in grad school, we were talking vis-a-vis diabetics again in the old school sense. I started teaching about insulin issues in weight gain and this thing called Syndrome X [now called metabolic syndrome] in my hospital job in the early 90's, knowing about it from my research background, but people looked at me like I was from Mars, so clinical types hadn't been exposed yet.

Sears came out with The Zone in '95 and he even found a lot of resistance to the idea of insulin dysregulation and inflammation, and illnesses thereof at that time.

Per this discussion, my more cynical side has me wondering if the food pyramid was actually created to pander to the corn and wheat industries. Bleh, I hate thinking like that. Nah, I think it was more that jacked up research from Ancel Keyes on cholesterol that drove it. Even now though, ask people what carbs are and hardly anybody says vegetables and fruit. It's really been habituated into our culture.

Interesting disucssion, thanks Coach and all

Comment #183 - Posted by: Bird in NJ at April 26, 2008 11:28 AM

correction to #177 -

clean & jerks! (full squat)

Comment #184 - Posted by: cleverhandz at April 26, 2008 6:14 PM

This video makes me want to stand up right now and kick ass! Greates CF gym video till now.

Comment #185 - Posted by: Tobias at April 29, 2008 3:31 PM

This video makes me want to stand up right now and kick ass! Greates CF gym video till now.

Comment #186 - Posted by: Tobias at April 29, 2008 3:32 PM
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